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Old 01 July 2012, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DYK
The road this country is taking i wouldn't be so sure it wouldn't happen,who would of thought that smoking would be banned.The answer now a days either seems to be ban something or shove the price up as a deterrent.
Instead of coming down hard on those that get arrested for drinking and causing trouble,Lets just do a blanket price increase on booze,so everyone gets hit instead..
I like a few vodkas on the weekend,i don't want to end up paying silly prices for it,just because some drunk yob wants to have a fight...
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by DYK
The road this country is taking i wouldn't be so sure it wouldn't happen,who would of thought that smoking would be banned.The answer now a days either seems to be ban something or shove the price up as a deterrent.
Instead of coming down hard on those that get arrested for drinking and causing trouble,Lets just do a blanket price increase on booze,so everyone gets hit instead..
I like a few vodkas on the weekend,i don't want to end up paying silly prices for it,just because some drunk yob wants to have a fight...
Absolutely bang on the money. Some people are probably fine sober and decent enough, but then can be absolute ***** when drunk, whether it be threatening, abusive, wife/husband beaters, annoyingly loved up etc. etc.

The worst bit is if someone in the above catagory uses it as an excuse... "oh I was drunk so I'm sorry for being abusive yadda yadda".

I'm interested to know what the difference in chemicals is for say illegal narcotics you find in my music scene over a typical night out in a city centre. One scene see's the above threatening/abusive behaviour whilst the other see's gurners or loved up (illegal) drug users. Remembering that alcohol is a drug there to be abused, albeit a legal one
Old 01 July 2012, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
This heavy drinking with violence; I wonder if it is immigrants' fault as well- like everything else is?

Well said there^. The dearest Gandhi was once asked in Britain what he thought of the British culture. His answer was- "What culture????". Very clever and hard hitting, Mahatma Gandhi.

PS: To whosoever the spelling of Gandhi may concern- 'Gandhi' is spelt as Gandhi, not Ghandi or something made-up like that. Just because the British have turned the spellings of foreign names/words as per their convenience, it doesn't make their fcuked up spelling right, nor does it make it more acceptable because they are 'superior', and what they say and write goes.






Eating hot curries is another one to look like a well hard British man with cast iron *****. After a p!ssed-up night out, a lot of drunken British people end up at the currry houses and compete upon eating the hottest vindaloos. While doing that, the noisy drunks throw racial abuse at the restaurent/takeaway owners, and make a right mess of the place. Some drunks act more talkative to the brown waiters/restaurant owners; just to show that they are so very kindhearted to connect with the 'low' and poor races/nationalities, but they continue to think that the brownies are nowhere as capable as they are; in any faculty. To them, brown people should just stick to cooking curries, noodles and kebabs, or cleaning toilets, and take the drunken abuse from the white 'superior, highly cultured and highly civilised' British drunks. IMHO the foreign foods places should ban the drunken racist ******* not just temporarily, but forever. In all seriousness they can't, because their places will go bankrupt. Perhaps they think that they should continue to yield the benefits from such deluded drunks at the cost of abuse.
Well said and love the follow up posts that just go prove your point
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
Gandhi's a ****, owes me money.



Originally Posted by ...seamus...
How Gandhi could say anything about the culture in England is beyond me!

When I was in Delhi I watched someone squat in the street about 10 foot from where I was eating and **** right there and then - then there's the mountains of rotting rubbish in the streets, vermin everywhere and some of the worst child abuse known anywhere in the world

very cultured indeed

Gandhi's definition of culture was much wider and his comment fitted the most for that time of the history. However, understanding it shouldn't be beyond you, as you should know that India was invaded, abused and ripped off by the British for nearly 200 years, and was left in a right state to breathe on its rickety legs as a divided soul. India's Indians are thankful for the railways and this-and-that, but Britain is responsible for its crimes on the countries they invaded for their greed, and left those countries behind in a right state. No doubt that India's corrupt politics makes it far worse, and all those divisive tendencies like castism etc. don't do any favours to their deluded day-to-day living. I am not going to argue over the historical wounds here, because Gandhi grew a cheek in 1947 or so; to say what he said. It all in the past and better left behind as a lesson learnt.

Now, as the world stands today, it is visible that the British culture (and civilisation, I dare say) itself has many flaws, like all other cultures and civilisations around the world have. Therefore, it sounds like "Oh, the irony!" when people with glass conservatories throw stones at others' greenhouses.

No one is saying that what happens in Gandhi's country is very cultured indeed. Whatever wrong happens there seems to you as very uncultured, and rightly so. Well, the British drunken abuse and yob culture seem to others and to many Levis Originals as very uncultured and uncivilised as well. It cannot be denied, nor does the British drunk culture lose its negative intensity and retain its superiority in any sense by making a comparison to any other culture's flaws.

How cultured is that when drunken fights are taking place and innocent people are getting battered and killed all over the country every damn weekend? This doesn't always include the victims of other races or homoexual victims, does it? There are plenty of white British victims of such dysfunction and irrational phenomenon. How very cultured and civilised indeed.

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Originally Posted by Turbohot






Gandhi's definition of culture was much wider and his comment fitted the most for that time of the history. However, understanding it shouldn't be beyond you, as you should know that India was invaded, abused and ripped off by the British for nearly 200 years, and was left in a right state to breathe on its rickety legs as a divided soul. India's Indians are thankful for the railways and this-and-that, but Britain is responsible for its crimes on the countries they invaded for their greed, and left those countries behind in a right state. No doubt that India's corrupt politics makes it far worse, and all those divisive tendencies like castism etc. don't do any favours to their deluded day-to-day living. I am not going to argue over the historical wounds here, because Gandhi grew a cheek in 1947 or so; to say what he said. It all in the past and better left behind as a lesson learnt.

Now, as the world stands today, it is visible that the British culture (and cilivlisation, I dare say) itself has many flaws, like all other cultures and civilisations around the world have. Therefore, it sounds like "Oh, the irony!" when people with glass conservatories throw stones at others' greenhouses.

No one is saying that what happens in Gandhi's country is very cultured indeed. Whatever wrong happens there seems to you as very uncultured, and rightly so. Well, the British drunken abuse and yob culture seem to others and to many Levis Originals as very uncultured and uncivilised as well. It cannot be denied, nor does the British drunk culture lose its negative intensity and retain its superiority in any sense by making a comparison to any other culture's flaws.

How cultured is that when drunken fights are taking place and innocent people are getting battered and killed all over the country every damn weekend? This doesn't always include the victims of other races or homoexual victims, does it? There are plenty of white British victims of such dysfunction and irrational phenomenon. How very cultured and civilised indeed.
I dont think the UK is as bad as your saying because half of gandh's relatives are sneeking over here so it must be better here than over there
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Originally Posted by addi monster
I dont think the UK is as bad as your saying because half of gandh's relatives are sneeking over here so it must be better here than over there

You are right.

May be, its a payback time for those 200 years (well, nearly) when the British folks' relatives sneaked in to India to abuse a perfectly good country, and grew roots with their 'Divide and Rule' twisted strategy to cause more friction between fighting cousins. What goes around comes around? May be?

As a matter of fact, there is no political invasion of some twisted kind from the Indian foreigners. Instead, Indian immigration has strengthened the British economy. In your head, you may think that all foreigners sit on their backside claiming benefits. The fact is that Britain will fall on its face if it weren't them helping out British population with their medial knowledge, industrial and financial input. A university closeby is threatened to be closed down and crying, as they have been forced to limit the number of Indian students coming over to study. Everyone of them pays massive pay packet to do their MBA, and contibutes hugely to the Uni's income.

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That's a great explanation or excuse Turbosnot but dont you think that the UK owes it's own citizens education and training in order to carry out these roles rather than relying on immigration?
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Originally Posted by addi monster
Time of the month ?
You know what mate, I thought the exact same thing: muff huff. I just dindnt want to stoke the fire
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian

I'm interested to know what the difference in chemicals is for say illegal narcotics you find in my music scene over a typical night out in a city centre. One scene see's the above threatening/abusive behaviour whilst the other see's gurners or loved up (illegal) drug users. Remembering that alcohol is a drug there to be abused, albeit a legal one
There is a one-off documentary, hosted by Robin Williams, coming on Discovery Science, where they film some people taking drugs, to see what it does to their bodies. Funnily enough, it's called "My body on drugs".
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
That's a great explanation or excuse Turbosnot but dont you think that the UK owes it's own citizens education and training in order to carry out these roles rather than relying on immigration?


Mrmadcap, there is no excuse being made.

On your post, what makes you think that foreign students generally come here to educate with the agenda to gain the roles here??? Also, did you notice that I said foreign students pay the UK universities enormous sums to get their education here ??? The UK universities are businesses, not charities. And as you may realise, whole world is inerrelated when it comes to business. Allowing the revenue coming in from foreign students allows universities to avail better systems for the local students. The UK does not do any kindhearted charity by allowing foreign students to come over here to educate. The UK charges arm and a leg for it, which means give and take. Most foreign students come on the student visa, and voluntarily b*gger off/have to b*gger off to their own countries due to immigration conditions. They don't necessarily continue to live here in the UK. A lot of them would have done their first degrees in their own countries. They do either higher or added-on qualifications here. A few of the brightest sparks may continue here to contribute to the British economy and welfare one way or the other. A lot of them go back to their countries and use their educational qualifications there to take on the roles and develop businesses.


Yes, the UK owes education to its citizens, and I have never heard of the education being denied to any British student because the foreign students came and pinched the places. They are only denied education if they are duffers or just wanted to get into the Uni with 3 failed A Levels for a party. So, the UK citizens have to be interested in the education, too. There are plenty of the UK citizens who can't be bothered to go to the university and that is not foreign students' fault.


Hope this clarifies to you that having foreign students over means business, not charity. And it doesn't threaten the locals' academic gain; that's if they are interested in university education. Then they can carry out those roles with no problem, and why not!

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Turbosnot, I work in the training sector and I know for a fact that government funding via the Skills Funding Ageny (formally the Learning Skills Council) is being utilised to train immigrants.

This is at a cost to young people in the UK who are stagnating in the "benefit culture"

I'm that pi$$ed off with this issue I'm thinking of leaving the sector.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Mrmadcap, there is no excuse being made.

On your post, what makes you think that foreign students generally come here to educate with the agenda to gain the roles here??? Also, did you notice that I said foreign students pay the UK universities enormous sums to get their education here ??? The UK universities are businesses, not charities. And as you may realise, whole world is inerrelated when it comes to business. Allowing the revenue coming in from foreign students allows universities to avail better systems for the local students. The UK does not do any kindhearted charity by allowing foreign students to come over here to educate. The UK charges arm and a leg for it, which means give and take. Most foreign students come on the student visa, and voluntarily b*gger off/have to b*gger off to their own countries due to immigration conditions. They don't necessarily continue to live here in the UK. A lot of them would have done their first degrees in their own countries. They do either higher or added-on qualifications here. A few of the brightest sparks may continue here to contribute to the British economy and welfare one way or the other. A lot of them go back to their countries and use their educational qualifications there to take on the roles and develop businesses.


Yes, the UK owes education to its citizens, and I have never heard of the education being denied to any British student because the foreign students came and pinched the places. They are only denied education if they are duffers or just wanted to get into the Uni with 3 failed A Levels for a party. So, the UK citizens have to be interested in the education, too. There are plenty of the UK citizens who can't be bothered to go to the university and that is not foreign students' fault.


Hope this clarifies to you that having foreign students over means business, not charity. And it doesn't threaten the locals' academic gain; that's if they are interested in university education. Then they can carry out those roles with no problem, and why not!
Your more crazy that first thought deluded and totally I'll informed. I can't even be ar$ed going in to this, you can't argue with a sick mind

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Originally Posted by mrmadcap

Turbosnot, I work in the training sector and I know for a fact that government funding via the Skills Funding Ageny (formally the Learning Skills Council) is being utilised to train immigrants.

This is at a cost to young people in the UK who are stagnating in the "benefit culture"

I'm that pi$$ed off with this issue I'm thinking of leaving the sector.

So, will the willing British youths be denied the training, and immigrants will be trained on the funding instead? That does sound unfair. If this is what's hapening then I'd be interested to know why so. Like you, I'd also be p!ssed off, and I'd look for a reason behind it. Is it because the British youths are not making enough use of the training, and therefore the funding is being chanelled towards training the immigrants? Is it because the cuts have to be made here and there to lift the economy, and the Goverment thinks that your sector is one of the sectors as it is not well-utilised by the British youths stagnating in the benefit culture? Are the British youths stagnating in the benefit culture because they prefer to do so, or do they have to stagnate in the benefit culture because the Government has deceided not to fund their skills training? What was the measure of the distance that the British youths travelled in past (measuring distance travelled as in business language) with your sector's training, and what were the gains? How many British trainees moved on to sustainability, and how many fell back on benefits? All that gets taken into account when the Government make decisions on chanelling funds. With not enough facts, it is difficult to comment. I would definitely say that one must learn, earn and have fun. Not sit on the benefits and have fun.

If SFA is losing funds because the Government is just favouring immigrants for sod all, then I'd kick off. But if I learnt that there are valid reasons behind it, I'd stay on the job and train immigrants. I wouldn't just get wound up.
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Originally Posted by classic Subaru Si
Your more crazy that first thought deluded and totally I'll informed. I can't even be ar$ed going in to this, you can't argue with a sick mind
I told you to do one ages ago, and ignored your previous post. You are quoting my response to someone else, which is not even meant for you. Please don't attention seek and utilise your energy somewhere else. Thank you.
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How did a post about drunken British yobs get twisted around to be about immigrants? .... only on Scoobynet!

Or are the nasty immigrants stealing all these 'hard working' Brits' jobs making them angry so they fight every night after a few jars of their benefit funded ale? LOL!
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Originally Posted by Bubba Ant

" shrimp cocktail, shrimp stew, shrimp sandwich, shrimp pasta "

Jesus ant

That lip reminds me of bubba from Forrest gump.
It's pretty crap when you go out for a night out and a bunch of chavs
With something to prove and big chips on there shoulders are out
With the intent to cause trouble and end up having to defend yourself against
A group of them.

Sorry to hear this happened to you.

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Originally Posted by classic Subaru Si
Your more crazy that first thought deluded and totally I'll informed. I can't even be ar$ed going in to this, you can't argue with a sick mind
In the absence of anything constructive to say or the ability to offer a valid rebuttal YOU'RE going to just profer an insult. Whilst I may not agree with everything Swati is saying she makes some valid points. Instead of making distasteful jokes about menstruation why don't you discuss your take on things? Partake in the debate instead of posting something that merely highlights your lack of literacy.
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Originally Posted by nizmo80
Jesus ant

That lip reminds me of bubba from Forrest gump.
It's pretty crap when you go out for a night out and a bunch of chavs
With something to prove and big chips on there shoulders are out
With the intent to cause trouble and end up having to defend yourself against
A group of them.

Sorry to hear this happened to you.
Yes I heard bubba for a long time! Felt like someone was pulling down on my lip all the time
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
How did a post about drunken British yobs get twisted around to be about immigrants? .... only on Scoobynet!

Or are the nasty immigrants stealing all these 'hard working' Brits' jobs making them angry so they fight every night after a few jars of their benefit funded ale? LOL!
I was thinking the same when we got to Gandhi
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Turbosnot, I work in the training sector and I know for a fact that government funding via the Skills Funding Ageny (formally the Learning Skills Council) is being utilised to train immigrants.

This is at a cost to young people in the UK who are stagnating in the "benefit culture"

I'm that pi$$ed off with this issue I'm thinking of leaving the sector.
How mature. Anything you now say can't be taken seriously.
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Not sure why TurboHot felt the need to turn it into from a subject about drunks to another subject, but from being on here for a number of years I am not suprised........

And we wonder why people deem SNmembers morons......
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
Not sure why TurboHot felt the need to turn it into from a subject about drunks to another subject, but from being on here for a number of years I am not suprised........

And we wonder why people deem SNmembers morons......
She didn't , she was making a valid comparison across countries and cultures... others then leapt on the immigrant 'issue' (sic).
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In that case I apologise....I read her post and then the follow-up and put 2+2 together and got the average IQ of some people on here i.e. 5
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2
In that case I apologise....I read her post and then the follow-up and put 2+2 together and got the average IQ of some people on here i.e. 5
5??? You give some people too much credit
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
5??? You give some people too much credit
Check out the two Mensa members here.....
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Most sensible thing is to ignore them and don't give them an excuse to attack you. If they approach you,just walk away.

Its just not worth the risk involved.

Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Most sensible thing is to ignore them and don't give them an excuse to attack you. If they approach you,just walk away.

Its just not worth the risk involved.

Les
Too be honest Les, if someone's had 12-15 pints of "what the f@ck are you looking at", walking away might make the situation worse if they're spoiling for a fight
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
How mature. Anything you now say can't be taken seriously.
It's interesting that many of Einstein's theories are in the process of being disproven.
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
It's interesting that many of Einstein's theories are in the process of being disproven.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
In the absence of anything constructive to say or the ability to offer a valid rebuttal YOU'RE going to just profer an insult. Whilst I may not agree with everything Swati is saying she makes some valid points. Instead of making distasteful jokes about menstruation why don't you discuss your take on things? Partake in the debate instead of posting something that merely highlights your lack of literacy.
I'm more than capable of taking part in a debate "Einstein" but I'm completely baffled as to why SHE has to drag ghandi and the immigrants in to the debate. I feel it's got something to do with boosting her post count, spouting absolute drivel. Drinking culture is this country has nothing to do with foreigners coming in taking jobs etc, it's Been like this for 100s of years. I don't think it's big or clever, nor am I a violent racist like tubrohot was trying to imply. If the answer was that easy, we wouldn't be having this debate. This problem we have has nothing to do with cheap booze, or ghandi. I also don't think the problem is half as bad as soon of these drama queens are making out. Hand on heart, how many fights do you actually see on a night out? I can't even remember the last time, and that's no lie. Yes it happens, but probably no worse than any other cities around the world.


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