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Old 24 July 2012, 09:19 PM
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But Marc, your "hardship" aside, do you not see that he has a point? Forget you were a soldier, we all know that now trust me, but every £1 you avoid in tax people like me have to pay instead. Why is that right? Enlighten me.
Old 24 July 2012, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by donny andi
Fooooking hell girls calm down
It's not the end of the world doing a cash job and losing it in the books

There's kiddie fiddlers / smack/crack heads prowling around and it's turned into world war fooooking 3 over a quick fiddle job

Crack a beer open log out and chill in the garden
Donny, at what amount would you start to feel uncomfortable? At what point would you moan about the lack of Police on the street, the waiting time at A&E, the lack of nursery places for your kids? Litle lbit here, little bit there. It all adds up.

Think.
Old 24 July 2012, 09:23 PM
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Not nice being called a thief repeatedly though.I have worked hard since leaving school and never taken a handout.now I try to start for myself a just scraping by and get called a thief for doing so.shows the sort of person addi is doesnt it.
Old 24 July 2012, 09:25 PM
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But Marc, with all due respect, you are thieving. Don't you get that?
Old 24 July 2012, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
But Marc, your "hardship" aside, do you not see that he has a point? Forget you were a soldier, we all know that now trust me, but every £1 you avoid in tax people like me have to pay instead. Why is that right? Enlighten me.
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I have already said that as soon as I start getting a steady wage I am starting paying and doing the book keeping courses in september to be able to do it properly.
Old 24 July 2012, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by marcevs72
Not nice being called a thief repeatedly though.I have worked hard since leaving school and never taken a handout.now I try to start for myself a just scraping by and get called a thief for doing so.shows the sort of person addi is doesnt it.
yes it does show what sort of a person i am mark, i work hard and pay my way and if everyone else did this the country would be a better place and our taxes would be lower, do you not get this

ps, PM me again and i will take it personaly.
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Ok fair enough, to a point, Marc. But my hunch is that now you've realised you can get away without paying legitimate tax, you'll continue to do so, to some extent. And i bet i'm right. And that's not fair, mate.
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Sorry but I am starting to be branded a thief and basically a drain that you lot are paying for.what a load of bollocks.
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Oh and addi this is personal now after what you have said believe me you ****.end of this place is getting ****ing stupid.
Old 24 July 2012, 09:32 PM
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In theory if you only earned £5,000 in the last tax year, you wouldn't have hit the threshold for paying it as it stands around £7,500 doesn't it? Or is this different for self employed folk?

I say this because as a first year apprentice a couple of years back I was on £493 a month take home and paid no tax what so ever. This was PAYE so again I'm interested to know the difference (if any) for self employed?

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Originally Posted by marcevs72
Sorry but I am starting to be branded a thief and basically a drain that you lot are paying for.what a load of bollocks.
Sorry but it ISN'T bollocks, lol!! Every £ you don't pay, somebody else has to. It's black and white simple. I'm not having a go at you specifically, i'm having a go at all the people who do exactly the same thing and think it's ok. Hundreds probably reading this thread afraid to admit what you have in case somebody knocks on the door. And it ain't right, whichever way you slice it.
Old 24 July 2012, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by addi monster
yes it does show what sort of a person i am mark, i work hard and pay my way and if everyone else did this the country would be a better place and our taxes would be lower, do you not get this

ps, PM me again and i will take it personaly.
Sorry addi but your wrong mate our taxes would not be lower,the government would find some other reason why they would need to be the same/higher I'm afraid.
With the ever growing population it will never come down end of!
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Originally Posted by marcevs72
I have already said that as soon as I start getting a steady wage I am starting paying and doing the book keeping courses in september to be able to do it properly.
Sorry mate but tell that one to the HMRC and see if they agree with you

Letter would go somthing like,,,,,

Hi im called mark and i am working as a qualified painter and decorater and i have been for a while now but until i get my book keeping course done i dont know how to pay my taxes so you will have to wait.

Reply,,,,

Hi mark please feel free to go directly to jail, if you pass go DO NOT collect £200

Seriously ffs

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Old 24 July 2012, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
Sorry addi but your wrong mate our taxes would not be lower,the government would find some other reason why they would need to be the same/higher I'm afraid.
With the ever growing population it will never come down end of!

But that totally unproven theory is NO excuse to evade tax!! Again you're talking as if you're entitled to avoid tax, because "everybody else is doing it". Nonsense!
Old 24 July 2012, 09:36 PM
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I can't wait to meet you mate.you really are a class a *****.oh and a grass.
Old 24 July 2012, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Donny, at what amount would you start to feel uncomfortable? At what point would you moan about the lack of Police on the street, the waiting time at A&E, the lack of nursery places for your kids? Litle lbit here, little bit there. It all adds up.

Think.
I know what your saying and fully agree.......but
Small jobs as in a few hundred every now and then hurts no one.

Say for example holiday time.......I use cash jobs
Need a new teeeeeveeee.......as above
Daft as it sounds I've had cars as payments, I have a really nice omega watch (3k).....cost me a £600 job

I pay quite a bit into the system and have for many years
If everyone is going to call me a thief crack on .....I pay my way

And if it's a cash job service is just the same......corners can't be cut in my trade plus I like to keep everyone happy

So come on now..........close the thread and lets start a 'fooooking immigrant builder took my work' thread
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
But that totally unproven theory is NO excuse to evade tax!! Again you're talking as if you're entitled to avoid tax, because "everybody else is doing it". Nonsense!
Huh,that's a bit of a shock Tel as what have I said that would make you say that??
Old 24 July 2012, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by donny andi
I know what your saying and fully agree.......but
Small jobs as in a few hundred every now and then hurts no one.

Say for example holiday time.......I use cash jobs
Need a new teeeeeveeee.......as above
Daft as it sounds I've had cars as payments, I have a really nice omega watch (3k).....cost me a £600 job

I pay quite a bit into the system and have for many years
If everyone is going to call me a thief crack on .....I pay my way

And if it's a cash job service is just the same......corners can't be cut in my trade plus I like to keep everyone happy

So come on now..........close the thread and lets start a 'fooooking immigrant builder took my work' thread
Good call had enough of being called a theiving bum
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
Sorry addi but your wrong mate our taxes would not be lower,the government would find some other reason why they would need to be the same/higher I'm afraid.
With the ever growing population it will never come down end of!
Sorry ryan but that is a whole new can of worms which i tend to disagree with you on that one fella
If the goverment in charge had everyone paying correct taxes then there would be a hell of a lot more money in the budget each year so in theory they would not need to charge as much tax (but they probs would anyway)
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Originally Posted by marcevs72
Good call had enough of being called a theiving bum
Never called you a bum, bum's tend not to bother working at all
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Originally Posted by addi monster
Sorry ryan but that is a whole new can of worms which i tend to disagree with you on that one fella
If the goverment in charge had everyone paying correct taxes then there would be a hell of a lot more money in the budget each year so in theory they would not need to charge as much tax (but they probs would anyway)
Considering the short fall they claim they have with the NHS/public transport etc etc it would be very hard to believe they would or could lower tax's don't you?
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
Considering the short fall they claim they have with the NHS/public transport etc etc it would be very hard to believe they would or could lower tax's don't you?
I totally hear what you are saying but as i said if all were honest and paid up then we could only wait and see
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Good thread. I've a couple of scratches and stone chips that need taking out of one of the cars and a rental that needs painting from top to bottom. The latter's in Plymouth, too. PM me, fellas, it sounds like I'll get a good price.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Good thread. I've a couple of scratches and stone chips that need taking out of one of the cars and a rental that needs painting from top to bottom. The latter's in Plymouth, too. PM me, fellas, it sounds like I'll get a good price.
That'll be £500........................................+VAT
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
That'll be £500........................................+VAT
Or £400 for cash guvna
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Originally Posted by donny andi
Or £400 for cash guvna
What's your trade? I've a fûck load of jobs and a fist full notes!
Old 24 July 2012, 10:21 PM
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That would be mates rates and if after Sept when I know how to do books will be put through them same as the rest then.hopefully I can earn enough to pay my bills and keep the taxman happy and off my back.oh and it is 7.5k before I have to pay tax so in the last year I havnt earnt enough to have to pay any tax so havnt stolen from anyone.I'm off to bed.goodnight all.
Old 24 July 2012, 10:26 PM
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Anyone?
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Anyone?
Anyone what?


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