Neighbour problem - harrasment?
30 July 2012, 12:51 AM
#91
I know of people here who bought new houses in estates and the rules are no work vans outside your house, there was parking bays away from the houses for vans and extra cars etc etc..
In fairness, i would go by the un written law that you park on or outside your property, not someone elses.
If i had someone beside me who had a car and a van, or 2 cars etc etc, i would be telling him to pick one to have outside his house and leave me my space
In fairness, i would go by the un written law that you park on or outside your property, not someone elses.
If i had someone beside me who had a car and a van, or 2 cars etc etc, i would be telling him to pick one to have outside his house and leave me my space
30 July 2012, 12:56 AM
#92
No-one deserves to have somebody else's ginormous clutter blocking their view. You only have Mickey's assertion that they haven't worked for twenty years. They're meant to be old; how old is that? They can't be really old if Mickey's having a go at them for not working. Conversely, if they're in their fifties, they might've lost their income through ill-health or no fault of their own.
I've met Mickey and Lisa about three times in real life, and I like them. Regardless, in this instance I think they're in the wrong.
I've met Mickey and Lisa about three times in real life, and I like them. Regardless, in this instance I think they're in the wrong.
Old, is now, in their 60s. So granted, now there isn't much point in getting into work. He claims he is in ill health, but obviously not so bad that he is able to climb the wall, to get ragged all over by his dog when walking it, to push his wife about in her wheelchair (I'll admit she may not be in a position to work), to go shopping and carry several bags home, or to manage to get up to the bookies. I'm not having a go at them for not working now, as like I say, what is the point now, I am having a go at the fact they have sponged off the rest of us for at least 20 years, no idea how long before that.
And how many times do I have to say, he doesn't want anything there? Yes, he has mentioned the van, but at the same time he explicitly said he didn't want anything as it would prevent visitors parking outside or an ambulance being right outside if needs be.
I like you too, Bubba, in real life, but whilst I respect your opinion, I think the way you have worded what you have said is a little out of order.
30 July 2012, 01:03 AM
#93
I know of people here who bought new houses in estates and the rules are no work vans outside your house, there was parking bays away from the houses for vans and extra cars etc etc..
In fairness, i would go by the un written law that you park on or outside your property, not someone elses.
If i had someone beside me who had a car and a van, or 2 cars etc etc, i would be telling him to pick one to have outside his house and leave me my space
In fairness, i would go by the un written law that you park on or outside your property, not someone elses.
If i had someone beside me who had a car and a van, or 2 cars etc etc, i would be telling him to pick one to have outside his house and leave me my space
If the option was there to not park outside somebody else's house, don't you think we'd take it to save all this hassle?
Re. extra parking space. Like I said earlier, there is a grassed area across the road we can't park on as it stands. I would welcome the council making that into parking space as it would solve all of this, but I can't make them.
30 July 2012, 01:05 AM
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No we don't have Micky's word. We have the word of me, that's right, Lisa that is having this discussion. I have lived in this house since I was two years old, and in that time, they moved in roughly 20 years ago. In that time, they haven't worked!
Old, is now, in their 60s. So granted, now there isn't much point in getting into work. He claims he is in ill health, but obviously not so bad that he is able to climb the wall, to get ragged all over by his dog when walking it, to push his wife about in her wheelchair (I'll admit she may not be in a position to work), to go shopping and carry several bags home, or to manage to get up to the bookies. I'm not having a go at them for not working now, as like I say, what is the point now, I am having a go at the fact they have sponged off the rest of us for at least 20 years, no idea how long before that.
And how many times do I have to say, he doesn't want anything there? Yes, he has mentioned the van, but at the same time he explicitly said he didn't want anything as it would prevent visitors parking outside or an ambulance being right outside if needs be.
I like you too, Bubba, in real life, but whilst I respect your opinion, I think the way you have worded what you have said is a little out of order.
Old, is now, in their 60s. So granted, now there isn't much point in getting into work. He claims he is in ill health, but obviously not so bad that he is able to climb the wall, to get ragged all over by his dog when walking it, to push his wife about in her wheelchair (I'll admit she may not be in a position to work), to go shopping and carry several bags home, or to manage to get up to the bookies. I'm not having a go at them for not working now, as like I say, what is the point now, I am having a go at the fact they have sponged off the rest of us for at least 20 years, no idea how long before that.
And how many times do I have to say, he doesn't want anything there? Yes, he has mentioned the van, but at the same time he explicitly said he didn't want anything as it would prevent visitors parking outside or an ambulance being right outside if needs be.
I like you too, Bubba, in real life, but whilst I respect your opinion, I think the way you have worded what you have said is a little out of order.
30 July 2012, 01:07 AM
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30 July 2012, 01:16 AM
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I'm disappointed in you, Lisa. You just can't see sense. Just because both of you are working, you think you can ride roughshod over somebody else's lives and feelings. You think you are more important than they are, and that you have a right to diminish their quality of life, simply because you're working. And they are at retirement age - one of them is a carer for the other which might be a full-time job in itself.
I really don't see the point in carrying on this discussion with you. I respect your opinion, but think you are in part missing where we are coming from. Maybe if you had lived beside them all these years and had the experience for yourself, you may look at it differently.
As for I think we are more important than them....You would honestly think this was a deliberate attempt to upset someone else.
Oh, the carer thing. I tell you what, maybe I should be like these spongers, and the ones at the other side???? I'll just give up work should I due to my condition (the same as the woman the other side that doesn't work) and Micky can be my carer? What a good idea, that would be a solution to the van problem.
30 July 2012, 01:21 AM
#97
No-one deserves to have somebody else's ginormous clutter blocking their view. You only have Mickey's assertion that they haven't worked for twenty years. They're meant to be old; how old is that? They can't be really old if Mickey's having a go at them for not working. Conversely, if they're in their fifties, they might've lost their income through ill-health or no fault of their own.
I've met Mickey and Lisa about three times in real life, and I like them. Regardless, in this instance I think they're in the wrong.
I've met Mickey and Lisa about three times in real life, and I like them. Regardless, in this instance I think they're in the wrong.
30 July 2012, 10:23 AM
#99
All sorts of issues with this (sorry it's long).
I had a similar issue in our last house a terraced house with small front garden (long enough for a car). House was lower than the road but about 3 foot or so.
The neighbours were nice and said hello when we moved in. No van at that point either. But we found they had a lot of arguments and the babies/kids made a lot of noise. There was poor insulation between the houses. We had no kids at that point and didn't really bother us as such (working a lot or out in the evenings/weekends).
Then they got a drop curb and level paved the garden. But their car was almost never on the drive. I think because the house was below the pavement, when the car was a foot from your front window it would be about chest height and sat in a sofa, you'd look out and see the underside of the car! Not a view I'd want. So their car was always out the front on the street.
Parking in our road was a nightmare, but again, we'd park anywhere. Two workers always out during most of the day, we'd hardly ever find a space right outside.
Later he got a van, it was a large white Mercedes Sprinter. She didn't work (I assume because of the kids) and he went early and came home early. The road emptied during the day. So the Sprinter went outside our house when he came home. Our house being below the road, and the van being huge, it simply made the living room dark. Or when the sun shone on it early morning was a huge white beacon, though this was only an issue for a couple of summers when dawn was real early.
We did ask if they could park the car on the drive and the van in front of the house, but were told that they needed to get the car in and out regularly. But they never put it even onto the drive!
This wasn't the only issue we had with them :-(
They went to live in Spain for a couple of years and the tenants in their house were actually nicer and better behaved then the owners. And they parked their car on the actual drive. My wife had a kid during this time and gave up work, so her car was at home a lot and she mainly managed to park it outside.
The neighbours returned (and the van). But now they had issue with the parking. My car was usually somewhere up the road, but the wife's was usually outside. Due to the width of the houses (terraced) the drop wasn't that wide - especially for a Sprinter. But they started to put the car on the drive and the van right outside if possible - difficult given the width.
One night he came home late and the wife noticed him taking X number of manouvres to get the van into the drop curb space, heard a noise and looked out to see him round the back looking at something near our car.
Next morning came out to find a big dent in the plastic bumper :-( Pushed that out but creases remained. I caught him just going off to work and mentioned getting it replaced and he simply said call the office to sort it out.
I did that and spoke to his manager, who simply said it wasn't the neighbour that caused the issue and they weren't prepared to do anything about it and to stop hassling the neighbour we can park anywhere as our vehicles are fully road legal.
In the end we moved out about 6 months later.
Why tell you all this?
A big van is not something you want outside your house when it's not yours. Granted our circumstances were a bit unique I suspect (size of the van, their driveway/house below street level). And yes there is no right to reserve the space or right to light, but it definitely changed our outlook than the one we purchased. My advise is to try and get it outside of your house, even if that means having to swap round the car and van in an evening.
But I also felt that not being neighbourly was a problem.
Oh and the follow up to this....
The people who brought our house were a retired couple downsizing. We went back to speak with our friendly neighbours (the other side) who got on with the new owners. It turns out that the retired gent had a lot of time on his hands and went to town on all the issues with the bad neighbours. Council and police were involved on occasions, they were forced to pay half for the shared chimney repairs, the full cost of the dividing fence (that I had said I'd pay half for). And getting a telling off for their dog barking all day and the fire brigade for burning down both their sheds in the back garden (due to the chemicals stored in the bad neighbours) and having to pay for the sheds and landscaping following that incident.
Possibly keep me as a neighbour would have been a lot easier!
I had a similar issue in our last house a terraced house with small front garden (long enough for a car). House was lower than the road but about 3 foot or so.
The neighbours were nice and said hello when we moved in. No van at that point either. But we found they had a lot of arguments and the babies/kids made a lot of noise. There was poor insulation between the houses. We had no kids at that point and didn't really bother us as such (working a lot or out in the evenings/weekends).
Then they got a drop curb and level paved the garden. But their car was almost never on the drive. I think because the house was below the pavement, when the car was a foot from your front window it would be about chest height and sat in a sofa, you'd look out and see the underside of the car! Not a view I'd want. So their car was always out the front on the street.
Parking in our road was a nightmare, but again, we'd park anywhere. Two workers always out during most of the day, we'd hardly ever find a space right outside.
Later he got a van, it was a large white Mercedes Sprinter. She didn't work (I assume because of the kids) and he went early and came home early. The road emptied during the day. So the Sprinter went outside our house when he came home. Our house being below the road, and the van being huge, it simply made the living room dark. Or when the sun shone on it early morning was a huge white beacon, though this was only an issue for a couple of summers when dawn was real early.
We did ask if they could park the car on the drive and the van in front of the house, but were told that they needed to get the car in and out regularly. But they never put it even onto the drive!
This wasn't the only issue we had with them :-(
They went to live in Spain for a couple of years and the tenants in their house were actually nicer and better behaved then the owners. And they parked their car on the actual drive. My wife had a kid during this time and gave up work, so her car was at home a lot and she mainly managed to park it outside.
The neighbours returned (and the van). But now they had issue with the parking. My car was usually somewhere up the road, but the wife's was usually outside. Due to the width of the houses (terraced) the drop wasn't that wide - especially for a Sprinter. But they started to put the car on the drive and the van right outside if possible - difficult given the width.
One night he came home late and the wife noticed him taking X number of manouvres to get the van into the drop curb space, heard a noise and looked out to see him round the back looking at something near our car.
Next morning came out to find a big dent in the plastic bumper :-( Pushed that out but creases remained. I caught him just going off to work and mentioned getting it replaced and he simply said call the office to sort it out.
I did that and spoke to his manager, who simply said it wasn't the neighbour that caused the issue and they weren't prepared to do anything about it and to stop hassling the neighbour we can park anywhere as our vehicles are fully road legal.
In the end we moved out about 6 months later.
Why tell you all this?
A big van is not something you want outside your house when it's not yours. Granted our circumstances were a bit unique I suspect (size of the van, their driveway/house below street level). And yes there is no right to reserve the space or right to light, but it definitely changed our outlook than the one we purchased. My advise is to try and get it outside of your house, even if that means having to swap round the car and van in an evening.
But I also felt that not being neighbourly was a problem.
Oh and the follow up to this....
The people who brought our house were a retired couple downsizing. We went back to speak with our friendly neighbours (the other side) who got on with the new owners. It turns out that the retired gent had a lot of time on his hands and went to town on all the issues with the bad neighbours. Council and police were involved on occasions, they were forced to pay half for the shared chimney repairs, the full cost of the dividing fence (that I had said I'd pay half for). And getting a telling off for their dog barking all day and the fire brigade for burning down both their sheds in the back garden (due to the chemicals stored in the bad neighbours) and having to pay for the sheds and landscaping following that incident.
Possibly keep me as a neighbour would have been a lot easier!
30 July 2012, 11:22 PM
#101
I'm with Bubba on this Lisa. You can't make excuses for parking your mahoosive van outside their house. Ok, you don't like them, they might well throw bread on your shed roof, let the dog bark, claim benefit, or whatever else they do that annoys you but in this instance those aren't good enough excuses for what you're doing.
It sounds like a tit for tat kind of dispute, one where you can't see the big picture because you're smack bang in the middle of it.
You're being unreasonable.
However, I would say they are too, they can't expect NOTHING parked outside. But the van? That's just taking the proverbial.
Do what most unbiased people have said and swap the van for the car. It's the right thing to do and karma will like you for it ;-)
It sounds like a tit for tat kind of dispute, one where you can't see the big picture because you're smack bang in the middle of it.
You're being unreasonable.
However, I would say they are too, they can't expect NOTHING parked outside. But the van? That's just taking the proverbial.
Do what most unbiased people have said and swap the van for the car. It's the right thing to do and karma will like you for it ;-)
Last edited by Boro; 30 July 2012 at 11:24 PM.
31 July 2012, 01:06 AM
#102
I'm with Bubba on this Lisa. You can't make excuses for parking your mahoosive van outside their house. Ok, you don't like them, they might well throw bread on your shed roof, let the dog bark, claim benefit, or whatever else they do that annoys you but in this instance those aren't good enough excuses for what you're doing.
It sounds like a tit for tat kind of dispute, one where you can't see the big picture because you're smack bang in the middle of it.
You're being unreasonable.
However, I would say they are too, they can't expect NOTHING parked outside. But the van? That's just taking the proverbial.
Do what most unbiased people have said and swap the van for the car. It's the right thing to do and karma will like you for it ;-)
It sounds like a tit for tat kind of dispute, one where you can't see the big picture because you're smack bang in the middle of it.
You're being unreasonable.
However, I would say they are too, they can't expect NOTHING parked outside. But the van? That's just taking the proverbial.
Do what most unbiased people have said and swap the van for the car. It's the right thing to do and karma will like you for it ;-)
And for the record, I might be annoyed by some of what has gone on with them, but I don't have some sort of vendetta against them.The reason I mentioned the things you have posted above, wasn't to make a defence for us pissing them off, we are most certainly not trying to do that. The reason was to illustrate that although they might do things I/we don't like, that is just life when you live next to people and at the end of the day, I certainly have more important things to worry about than what I mentioned. The point was that I try to take a live and let live attitude.
And for the point about car vs van. I do see where people are coming from, but as I have stated, they don't want anything there. Yes, we could swap them (ignoring the reason we don't wish to for now) but then what? Instead of complaining to his work, they complain to the council???? Granted they might tell him to do one, but it doesn't stop the fact that there would be friction and that this hassle would keep rearing it's ugly head. The only way they would be happy, would be if nothing was outside their house. Also, if we were to do this, then they would be stuck with a vehicle outside their house for the vast majority of the time as opposed to an evening and weekend. To be honest, if we could magically stretch the front of our house, I wouldn't give a flying **** if the van was covering our front window, and we therefore caused no offence to anyone else. As it stands, that clearly isn't possible and I apologise that as a result, I wish to protect my home/car as much as I can unfortunately resulting in the situation we have now. Like I have said earlier, if that makes us selfish, so be it.
With respect to how we are as neighbours/people, we cause no other problem than a van parked up. I'm not even going to mention anything good I have done as it is wasted, as it has clearly been decided by some people on here that we are just the big bad neighbours, hell bent on upsetting others.
31 July 2012, 06:31 AM
#103
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Maybe you could still give it a try and swap the vehicles around,they may not want any vehicle parked outside as you state,but if they do complain to the council then at least you can say to them that they didn't want the van parked outside,and you have tried to solve the problem by swapping the vehicles around,what else can we do.Sounds like they will eventually complain to the council anyway,and if they continue to complain to works head office etc,they could just stop your partner from taking the van home anyhow.
I dare say if you parked the car outside it would be less noticeable,no harm in giving it a go,i have to agree somewhat with boro,i wouldn't want some neighbour parking a big transit van outside my front yard every night and weekends.
I can see from the pics you haven't got a very wide road and parking is limited,but this isn't going to go away lisa by saying to hell with them,we'll just carry on parking the van outside.The op stated the first complaint was two years ago,so don't you think its gone on long enough,you may just have to swallow your pride a little.
I dare say if you parked the car outside it would be less noticeable,no harm in giving it a go,i have to agree somewhat with boro,i wouldn't want some neighbour parking a big transit van outside my front yard every night and weekends.
I can see from the pics you haven't got a very wide road and parking is limited,but this isn't going to go away lisa by saying to hell with them,we'll just carry on parking the van outside.The op stated the first complaint was two years ago,so don't you think its gone on long enough,you may just have to swallow your pride a little.
31 July 2012, 07:00 AM
#104
Close the thread leave the van there.... Sod the neighbour.... You should see where I live with 2huge vans blocking the entrance to my coldisack. There is nothing I can do bare pull out slowly and blindly without them caring so why should you care about them.. Leave it there with a note in the window saying delivering 
then go back to my last post and brick >>>>>>>> window =
then go back to my last post and brick >>>>>>>> window =
31 July 2012, 07:08 AM
#105
Parking is always the main reason neighbour's fall out. I can see both sides.
Our house used to be the only house on our road without a drive, and had a hedge out the front with space in front of it for 2 cars. We have 2 cars so could easily park outside our house most of the time, but if anyone visited anyone else in the street would park outside our house and meant one or both of us at times would have to park in the next street.
Every so often a Merc used to park outside taking one of the spaces for days on end, with its steering lock on then dissapear. Then it was there for a fortnight so i kept an eye on it, but it would appear at stupid o'clock in the morning and again dissapear when i was asleep. It came back again and again sat there for days on end so i put a note on it, as we are very close to an airport this person was obviously avoiding paying airport parking at our inconvenience. I got a knock at the door very early one morning and it was the posh neighbour who had bought their ex-council house and looked down her nose at us and other council tenants. Turn's out it was her Son who was very apologetic. She had a right go, how dare i leave a note on it, she had told him to park there while he went on holiday rather than on her drive (which was/is big enough for 2 cars).
She came round again later i thought to apologize but again started to shout who did i think I was, that it wasn't illegal to park there.
I agreed but said it also wasn't illegal for me to park across her drive when she wasn't in, but would not do that as it would inconvenience them. I also pointed out she knew we had 2 cars and our Son was only a year old and must have known this would have caused a problem. I even said had she asked us if this was OK i would have parked in the next street for 2 weeks just to be neighbourly and help out.
Over the coming months her other Son would regularly visit and would park constantly outside our house and do it in such a way it was hard to get a second car out there. After months of this i got the hump and parked mine an inch from his. He had to come and knock when we had a house full of guests and ask me to move, when i went out he give it "Is that a ****ing problem" wanting a row. The Mum started saying i thought it was illegal to park outside our house. I didn't react, i just moved the car and went back inside to a houseful of guests telling me i should have told him to f off and watch him move it inch by inch to get out.
It then got petty when we didn't react, we shared a path, at least that's what we thought and they had to use this path to get to their back garden as they had turned over and planted flowers on what would have been their path. If my boys played outside and left any toys on the path they were quickly picked up by the neighbour and thrown across the garden angrily. So i visited the council and they confirmed it was not a shared path at all, it was council land and they had no right to use it, let alone get the hump if my boys played on it.
A parcel company knocked one day near christmas and asked if i would take something for them. To break the ice i agreed and put a note on her door. When she knocked i expected an awkward chat and maybe a chance to express an opinion and sort things out. Instead she started shouting again, how dare i take her parcel as if i was a thief.
This charade went on for months, but her old man would always smile and say hello to us and never parked outside ours. Then one very early morning a van turned up outside their house and was fully loaded within an hour and was gone, leaving a note on their window that the house had been repossessed and they had lost their house. It turns out the old man was constantly hammered in the local pub and had gambled all their money away.
Months later at a kids party a lady approached us and said she was the wife of the Son that was constantly parked outside ours. She apologized and said she had no idea how we had put up with her so long without reacting.
Once she was gone however the other side was then rented out, and still is to multiple couples of Brazilians. There must be at least 3 or 4 couples living there at any one time, 3 or 4 cars and they were then parked outside instead.
On Christmas day last year when the mrs was 9 months pregnant and the roads and paths were all covered in snow i lost the plot when we arrived home to find we could not park anywhere near our house. Victor Meldrew style i knocked and asked them to move, when they showed a sign of maybe not being helpful i mentioned that there were several couples living there that worked and i was suspicious there were on housing benefit. They moved their cars pretty promptly.
Last year i bit the bullet and paid £800 for a dropped kerb. I then, weekend by weekend dug myself a drive big enough for 2 cars. Its a ****ty type 1 drive that's messy, but i don't care after 4 years of finishing late and worrying where I'd park the scoob.
*Going back to the OP i would say i would understand how the van outside would be an eyesore and would definitely wind me up.
Is there any way of leaving the scoob at work during the week either on CCTV in the car park or actually in the warehouse in the bay Micky uses?
Our house used to be the only house on our road without a drive, and had a hedge out the front with space in front of it for 2 cars. We have 2 cars so could easily park outside our house most of the time, but if anyone visited anyone else in the street would park outside our house and meant one or both of us at times would have to park in the next street.
Every so often a Merc used to park outside taking one of the spaces for days on end, with its steering lock on then dissapear. Then it was there for a fortnight so i kept an eye on it, but it would appear at stupid o'clock in the morning and again dissapear when i was asleep. It came back again and again sat there for days on end so i put a note on it, as we are very close to an airport this person was obviously avoiding paying airport parking at our inconvenience. I got a knock at the door very early one morning and it was the posh neighbour who had bought their ex-council house and looked down her nose at us and other council tenants. Turn's out it was her Son who was very apologetic. She had a right go, how dare i leave a note on it, she had told him to park there while he went on holiday rather than on her drive (which was/is big enough for 2 cars).
She came round again later i thought to apologize but again started to shout who did i think I was, that it wasn't illegal to park there.
I agreed but said it also wasn't illegal for me to park across her drive when she wasn't in, but would not do that as it would inconvenience them. I also pointed out she knew we had 2 cars and our Son was only a year old and must have known this would have caused a problem. I even said had she asked us if this was OK i would have parked in the next street for 2 weeks just to be neighbourly and help out.
Over the coming months her other Son would regularly visit and would park constantly outside our house and do it in such a way it was hard to get a second car out there. After months of this i got the hump and parked mine an inch from his. He had to come and knock when we had a house full of guests and ask me to move, when i went out he give it "Is that a ****ing problem" wanting a row. The Mum started saying i thought it was illegal to park outside our house. I didn't react, i just moved the car and went back inside to a houseful of guests telling me i should have told him to f off and watch him move it inch by inch to get out.
It then got petty when we didn't react, we shared a path, at least that's what we thought and they had to use this path to get to their back garden as they had turned over and planted flowers on what would have been their path. If my boys played outside and left any toys on the path they were quickly picked up by the neighbour and thrown across the garden angrily. So i visited the council and they confirmed it was not a shared path at all, it was council land and they had no right to use it, let alone get the hump if my boys played on it.
A parcel company knocked one day near christmas and asked if i would take something for them. To break the ice i agreed and put a note on her door. When she knocked i expected an awkward chat and maybe a chance to express an opinion and sort things out. Instead she started shouting again, how dare i take her parcel as if i was a thief.
This charade went on for months, but her old man would always smile and say hello to us and never parked outside ours. Then one very early morning a van turned up outside their house and was fully loaded within an hour and was gone, leaving a note on their window that the house had been repossessed and they had lost their house. It turns out the old man was constantly hammered in the local pub and had gambled all their money away.
Months later at a kids party a lady approached us and said she was the wife of the Son that was constantly parked outside ours. She apologized and said she had no idea how we had put up with her so long without reacting.
Once she was gone however the other side was then rented out, and still is to multiple couples of Brazilians. There must be at least 3 or 4 couples living there at any one time, 3 or 4 cars and they were then parked outside instead.
On Christmas day last year when the mrs was 9 months pregnant and the roads and paths were all covered in snow i lost the plot when we arrived home to find we could not park anywhere near our house. Victor Meldrew style i knocked and asked them to move, when they showed a sign of maybe not being helpful i mentioned that there were several couples living there that worked and i was suspicious there were on housing benefit. They moved their cars pretty promptly.
Last year i bit the bullet and paid £800 for a dropped kerb. I then, weekend by weekend dug myself a drive big enough for 2 cars. Its a ****ty type 1 drive that's messy, but i don't care after 4 years of finishing late and worrying where I'd park the scoob.
*Going back to the OP i would say i would understand how the van outside would be an eyesore and would definitely wind me up.
Is there any way of leaving the scoob at work during the week either on CCTV in the car park or actually in the warehouse in the bay Micky uses?
31 July 2012, 07:23 AM
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Close the thread leave the van there.... Sod the neighbour.... You should see where I live with 2huge vans blocking the entrance to my coldisack. There is nothing I can do bare pull out slowly and blindly without them caring so why should you care about them.. Leave it there with a note in the window saying delivering then go back to my last post and brick >>>>>>>> window =
then go back to my last post and brick >>>>>>>> window =But this is the problem now a days,no one seems to give a ****,oh i'll just dump my car infront of somebody's drive etc,or i'll just dump my big sprinter van on this junction so it causes a blindspot for motorists pulling out,i haven't got time to think sense and be a bit more considerate for other road users,double parking is another one.Rant over time for a coffee
31 July 2012, 09:36 AM
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Not the same but we live in a nice area in a colder sac with 5 other large houses. We have a a neighbour that puts there wheelie bin out on a Sunday, yet there not collected until the Wednesday. They never bring it in until the Thursday or Friday, it drives the rest of the neighbours nuts.
As I explain its just inconsiderate and makes them look very selfish on there out look of like. However no one ever says anything. If it wound be up that much I would just tell em.
To me they are just selfish arsholes. I'm guessing parking your van outside there house would make the rest of your road think the same about you.
As I explain its just inconsiderate and makes them look very selfish on there out look of like. However no one ever says anything. If it wound be up that much I would just tell em.
To me they are just selfish arsholes. I'm guessing parking your van outside there house would make the rest of your road think the same about you.
31 July 2012, 11:01 AM
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If there is only on street parking available and there is no restriction, then TBH what is the issue?
With no restrictions; Nobody can 'own' the spot outside their house. Even if they think they have a right to it.
Ok with a huge van some consideration would lubricate matters, but judging by the complaints against Micky (note spelling, tsk tsk Bubba ) being obviously exaggerated and falsified, I don't think there is a case to answer for.
If there is no offroad parking avaialble and the complaints states that there is, when the picture shows there clearly isn't any. Then its obvious the neighbour is being a NIMBY and just doing it to be as obstructive as possible until he gets his own way. I suspect if it were a MPV or 4x4 oustide his house he'd moan about it too.
However, I do think its unfair that courriers expect their employees to find somewhere to dump their LWB vans, a Belingo, or even a Vito is fine as they're no bigger than a MPV or SUV, but a MWB/LWB high/medium roof Sprinter takes the ****. When my old work dumped me with their LWB medium roof Ducato I dreaded the day when the old tosser next door (now gone) would start moaning and making comments about it devaluing the area (lots of covenants around here), because I was the only person in the street with a van! A stink was kicked up when someone two doors up dumped a huge twin axle caravan on their drive. Forcing to park their cars in the street (nobody else parks in the street - another convenant I belive, as all the houses were purpose built to have ample off road parking, assuming they aren't shed draggers ), I think teh only reason I got away with it is I was up and out before he was awake (6am) and back after he'd gone to bed (usually 8pm) and I'd find somewhere else to dump it at weekends so I could get the scoob out the garage.
Infact for this reason nobody at my old work wanted the Ducato as although it was the newest and nicest van, nobody could park the thing at their home. More often than not when possible, it was taken to the site where the installation works were being done and then left there (if the site security would allow it), and we'd hitch lifts to/from work with whoever had the smaller vans/cars. It was left on one job so long that battery went flat (interior lights from getting materials from it every day etc.)
With no restrictions; Nobody can 'own' the spot outside their house. Even if they think they have a right to it.
Ok with a huge van some consideration would lubricate matters, but judging by the complaints against Micky (note spelling, tsk tsk Bubba
) being obviously exaggerated and falsified, I don't think there is a case to answer for.If there is no offroad parking avaialble and the complaints states that there is, when the picture shows there clearly isn't any. Then its obvious the neighbour is being a NIMBY and just doing it to be as obstructive as possible until he gets his own way. I suspect if it were a MPV or 4x4 oustide his house he'd moan about it too.
However, I do think its unfair that courriers expect their employees to find somewhere to dump their LWB vans, a Belingo, or even a Vito is fine as they're no bigger than a MPV or SUV, but a MWB/LWB high/medium roof Sprinter takes the ****. When my old work dumped me with their LWB medium roof Ducato I dreaded the day when the old tosser next door (now gone) would start moaning and making comments about it devaluing the area (lots of covenants around here), because I was the only person in the street with a van! A stink was kicked up when someone two doors up dumped a huge twin axle caravan on their drive. Forcing to park their cars in the street (nobody else parks in the street - another convenant I belive, as all the houses were purpose built to have ample off road parking, assuming they aren't shed draggers
), I think teh only reason I got away with it is I was up and out before he was awake (6am) and back after he'd gone to bed (usually 8pm) and I'd find somewhere else to dump it at weekends so I could get the scoob out the garage.Infact for this reason nobody at my old work wanted the Ducato as although it was the newest and nicest van, nobody could park the thing at their home. More often than not when possible, it was taken to the site where the installation works were being done and then left there (if the site security would allow it), and we'd hitch lifts to/from work with whoever had the smaller vans/cars. It was left on one job so long that battery went flat (interior lights from getting materials from it every day etc.)
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31 July 2012, 11:17 AM
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Oh and neighbour opposite have a drive big enough for four to five cars, plus two in a garage/carport. They keep their two cars in the carport. So space for plenty of cars.
The old bint there holds some form of weird tupperware party/candle light suppers, and invites more guests than I've seen at a student house party. And NOT ONE parks on their drive. They'd rather block my drive instead, which when I had the van (large or small) was a nightmare (no rear windows and the van usually had broken/cracked mirrors from previous parking inccidents - not done by me ).
Sometimes I just felt like ramming the f**k out the car parked directly opposite my entrance as I had to nudge back and forth ten times to get off the drive. Hell its hard to get off the drive with my Golf, as it has rubbish full lock.
Usually when I catch them arriving I try to park my car on my side of the road to prevent them parking opposite meaning my driveway still reamains useable. Causes much confusion, then with luck they actually use the driveway...hallelujah they finally get the idea of what a paved driveway is for.: 
The old bint there holds some form of weird tupperware party/candle light suppers, and invites more guests than I've seen at a student house party. And NOT ONE parks on their drive. They'd rather block my drive instead, which when I had the van (large or small) was a nightmare (no rear windows and the van usually had broken/cracked mirrors from previous parking inccidents - not done by me
).Sometimes I just felt like ramming the f**k out the car parked directly opposite my entrance as I had to nudge back and forth ten times to get off the drive. Hell its hard to get off the drive with my Golf, as it has rubbish full lock.
Usually when I catch them arriving I try to park my car on my side of the road to prevent them parking opposite meaning my driveway still reamains useable. Causes much confusion, then with luck they actually use the driveway...hallelujah they finally get the idea of what a paved driveway is for.
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31 July 2012, 11:34 AM
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At my place, we have a double drive, as do the neighbours on both sides. The neighbours on one side have a huge Jaguar which they park on the drive, I believe the garage is empty, then insist on parking their van and her car on the road, very close to the junction.
Their visitors will park outside our house.
On the opposite side of the street, is a small used car dealership, the customers will park outside that, making the road narrow and making my view to get off the drive difficult.
I've not complained, I just let them get on with it.
I had a delivery last week, about half eight in the morning. A huge TNT truck park parallel to their car and van, to unload another hog roasting oven. As the neighbours had a tradesman round, parked outside my place, they were stuck until the delivery was complete, as the neighbour couldn't reverse his van as that would take him out onto a major carriageway and there's a bus stop there, plus his wife couldn't reverse back to pull out as the tradesman had blocked her in.
I had to chuckle as there was enough room for me to move my car to the other side of my drive to get through to the yard.
Solution for Micky and Lisa: Just paint "Paedo" in 12' high letters across the front of their house and then move the van, so everyone can see it
Their visitors will park outside our house.
On the opposite side of the street, is a small used car dealership, the customers will park outside that, making the road narrow and making my view to get off the drive difficult.
I've not complained, I just let them get on with it.
I had a delivery last week, about half eight in the morning. A huge TNT truck park parallel to their car and van, to unload another hog roasting oven. As the neighbours had a tradesman round, parked outside my place, they were stuck until the delivery was complete, as the neighbour couldn't reverse his van as that would take him out onto a major carriageway and there's a bus stop there, plus his wife couldn't reverse back to pull out as the tradesman had blocked her in.
I had to chuckle as there was enough room for me to move my car to the other side of my drive to get through to the yard.
Solution for Micky and Lisa: Just paint "Paedo" in 12' high letters across the front of their house and then move the van, so everyone can see it
31 July 2012, 11:50 AM
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Just a thought. A theoretical question to Micky (sp noted) and Lisa. Would you think it was ok to single out somebody else up your street who didn't have a car and wasn't using the space outside their house, and park the van there every evening and weekend? After all, they don't have a right to that space.
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During my stint in the emergency services, the only time we had a car moved, was when it had been abandoned across a drive and the gate, but touching the gate as it was on the pavement.
We only had it moved as the chap in the house was waiting for a transplant. The Inspector would not authorise it in any other case as you get billed to tow it away.
Any job I went to where an ambulance was required, the ambulance would park wherever the hell it liked. We pretty much would do the same, leaving the blue and reds flashing to warn motorists of the cars.
In my Dad's days of being in the Fire Brigade, they would often either get out and bounce a car out of their way to get to a job, or smash the windows and just put the hose through the car.
IMO, as long as there is room for a paramedic to get between the van ant the property with his kit, a bed or wheelchair, then there is no harm done in terms of access. Is there is a need to call an ambulance, then between them calling it, and it arriving, chances are that they could have knocked on the door, made you aware of the ambulance travelling which would give you ample time to move the van, should it be required.
If it was my van parked there when the emergency services turned up, I'd ask them if it would make things easier if I moved my van. Chances are, they'll be too busy getting on with the job to care about where you van is.
We only had it moved as the chap in the house was waiting for a transplant. The Inspector would not authorise it in any other case as you get billed to tow it away.
Any job I went to where an ambulance was required, the ambulance would park wherever the hell it liked. We pretty much would do the same, leaving the blue and reds flashing to warn motorists of the cars.
In my Dad's days of being in the Fire Brigade, they would often either get out and bounce a car out of their way to get to a job, or smash the windows and just put the hose through the car.
IMO, as long as there is room for a paramedic to get between the van ant the property with his kit, a bed or wheelchair, then there is no harm done in terms of access. Is there is a need to call an ambulance, then between them calling it, and it arriving, chances are that they could have knocked on the door, made you aware of the ambulance travelling which would give you ample time to move the van, should it be required.
If it was my van parked there when the emergency services turned up, I'd ask them if it would make things easier if I moved my van. Chances are, they'll be too busy getting on with the job to care about where you van is.
31 July 2012, 12:13 PM
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Most peopel do it on the afternoon/night beforehand though and nothing has happened, so I doubt its enforced.
Any longer is taking the **** though and TBH, I noted on some "cops with cameras" espisodes on TV they do burn quite well once set alight with a form of accelerant
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31 July 2012, 12:26 PM
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I'm the only one that seems to do it where I live (communal bins for the various rented accommodation).
I take them out for collection in the morning (Fridays)... And invariably it's me that retrieve the bins when I get in from work the same day...
I take them out for collection in the morning (Fridays)... And invariably it's me that retrieve the bins when I get in from work the same day...
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