Neighbour problem - harrasment?
31 July 2012, 03:02 PM
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I'd have something to say if you parked (and looking at the picture I use the word parked in the widest possible sense 
) directly outside my house.
It's got nothing to do with who has the right and who doesn't but about common decency to your neighbours.
Looking at Lisa's comments it's blatantly obvious you both know the real solution is to switch the van and the scoob around but you don't want that as you'll have to look at it from your window!!
) directly outside my house.It's got nothing to do with who has the right and who doesn't but about common decency to your neighbours.
Looking at Lisa's comments it's blatantly obvious you both know the real solution is to switch the van and the scoob around but you don't want that as you'll have to look at it from your window!!
31 July 2012, 05:59 PM
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I'd have something to say if you parked (and looking at the picture I use the word parked in the widest possible sense ) directly outside my house.
It's got nothing to do with who has the right and who doesn't but about common decency to your neighbours.
Looking at Lisa's comments it's blatantly obvious you both know the real solution is to switch the van and the scoob around but you don't want that as you'll have to look at it from your window!!
) directly outside my house.It's got nothing to do with who has the right and who doesn't but about common decency to your neighbours.
Looking at Lisa's comments it's blatantly obvious you both know the real solution is to switch the van and the scoob around but you don't want that as you'll have to look at it from your window!!
Lisa, if you got new neighbours tomorrow, who worked and didn't throw bread on your shed roof and let the dog bark, would you:-
a) Still leave your monstrosity of van outisde even if they complained
or
b) Leave your monstrosity of a van outside your own house because you wouldn't want to p!ss them off
If you think about it, your attitude towards your neighbours is because of past problems NOT this one.
31 July 2012, 07:24 PM
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I bought a house a while back and the driver of a citylink vehicle parked outside my house for several years before i moved in. I asked him to park outside his own house or 100 yards up the road. He also didnt want a big van outside his house and now parks up the
road.
road.
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31 July 2012, 07:35 PM
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I've come to the conclusion that this isn't just about the van vs car. Like alot of neighbours disputes, it gets distorted by they did this, they did that. Like I said earlier, tit for tat, which Lisa denies, but if you read between the lines, it's quite clear there in animosity between them.
Lisa, if you got new neighbours tomorrow, who worked and didn't throw bread on your shed roof and let the dog bark, would you:-
a) Still leave your monstrosity of van outisde even if they complained
or
b) Leave your monstrosity of a van outside your own house because you wouldn't want to p!ss them off
If you think about it, your attitude towards your neighbours is because of past problems NOT this one.
Lisa, if you got new neighbours tomorrow, who worked and didn't throw bread on your shed roof and let the dog bark, would you:-
a) Still leave your monstrosity of van outisde even if they complained
or
b) Leave your monstrosity of a van outside your own house because you wouldn't want to p!ss them off
If you think about it, your attitude towards your neighbours is because of past problems NOT this one.
In answer to your question, I would like to think if we were to get new neighbours, if the van being there was a problem for them, that they would come to us and hopefully we could reach some common ground.
To Hanley, I wouldn't be looking at it, so that is not even an issue. I spend very little time in the front room, and when I do, I don't sit gazing out of the window at a main road and other houses, it's not like the view is one of outstanding natural beauty.
31 July 2012, 07:38 PM
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[QUOTE=Lisawrx;10731878]This has NOTHING to do with the other issues, whether you want to believe that or not. I highlighted them, to try to make the point that if I so wished, there is plenty I could moan about, but I understand that life isn't always as perfect when you live beside other people and you have to adopt a live and let live attitude towards some things.
In answer to your question, I would like to think if we were to get new neighbours, if the van being there was a problem for them, that they would come to us and hopefully we could reach some common ground.
To Hanley, I wouldn't be looking at it, so that is not even an issue. I spend very little time in the front room, and when I do, I don't sit gazing out of the window at a main road and other houses, it's not like the view is one of outstanding natural beauty.[/QUOTE
FFS Move the funking VAN!
In answer to your question, I would like to think if we were to get new neighbours, if the van being there was a problem for them, that they would come to us and hopefully we could reach some common ground.
To Hanley, I wouldn't be looking at it, so that is not even an issue. I spend very little time in the front room, and when I do, I don't sit gazing out of the window at a main road and other houses, it's not like the view is one of outstanding natural beauty.[/QUOTE
FFS Move the funking VAN!
31 July 2012, 07:52 PM
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Do you REALLY need your neighbours to come over to you and ASK you not to park your van outside their house to get the message. The fact they have complained to Mickys employers should be a little hint.
31 July 2012, 08:16 PM
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This is just not going anywhere is it?
If you Lisa or mikey feel strongly about keeping your van there then I me personally would knock on their door and have a calm or firm word with them about the situation and point out their lies, in my experience you just can't win with these type of folks and tell them once and once only and be firm if you have to.
If you let people get away with being **** for long enough they just think it easy to carry on regardless knowing you won't say owt and just ignore them.
Most people when you stand your ground against them don't bother after that as they know you will again stand your ground.
Nip it in the bud straight away before they really start taking the ****.
My previous post regarding the washing line incident with my rear neighbour, when I moved here I just wanted to be soft and friendly with my neighbours without any hassle and live an easy life, she used to talk to me frequently, she dosent work (in her 50s) husband does though, she sits in her garden all day. She used to big herself up a bit and say her sons this and that etc etc, I just ignored it and carried on, as I'm not a noisy neighbour type, but heard stories from both my side neighbours about her, my motto is if nobody bothers me then I don't care tbh, but then she cried about tying my washing line to HER tree (council tree) and it's the border line tree, my land is freehold, so that tree might actually be mine, but couldn't be arsed checking as I have no time, better things in my life to worry about. So when she piped up about it, I put her straight and made her feel small about how pathetic she is being and to grow up in FRONT of her husband AND her son with his beer in his hand lol thinking he was something special, I told him too and they all went quite and looked in shock that I reacted thinking I was just gonna say sorry. And now I have not had a single peak off them.
So the motto is if you can't reason with them, then just have a firm word and put them in their place. Thoughtfull words can be power at times with these types of people.
Sorry for long post lol
If you Lisa or mikey feel strongly about keeping your van there then I me personally would knock on their door and have a calm or firm word with them about the situation and point out their lies, in my experience you just can't win with these type of folks and tell them once and once only and be firm if you have to.
If you let people get away with being **** for long enough they just think it easy to carry on regardless knowing you won't say owt and just ignore them.
Most people when you stand your ground against them don't bother after that as they know you will again stand your ground.
Nip it in the bud straight away before they really start taking the ****.
My previous post regarding the washing line incident with my rear neighbour, when I moved here I just wanted to be soft and friendly with my neighbours without any hassle and live an easy life, she used to talk to me frequently, she dosent work (in her 50s) husband does though, she sits in her garden all day. She used to big herself up a bit and say her sons this and that etc etc, I just ignored it and carried on, as I'm not a noisy neighbour type, but heard stories from both my side neighbours about her, my motto is if nobody bothers me then I don't care tbh, but then she cried about tying my washing line to HER tree (council tree) and it's the border line tree, my land is freehold, so that tree might actually be mine, but couldn't be arsed checking as I have no time, better things in my life to worry about. So when she piped up about it, I put her straight and made her feel small about how pathetic she is being and to grow up in FRONT of her husband AND her son with his beer in his hand lol thinking he was something special, I told him too and they all went quite and looked in shock that I reacted thinking I was just gonna say sorry. And now I have not had a single peak off them.
So the motto is if you can't reason with them, then just have a firm word and put them in their place. Thoughtfull words can be power at times with these types of people.
Sorry for long post lol
31 July 2012, 08:17 PM
#137
Just on a lighthearted note. When I moved onto a new estate, we didn't realise the parking bays were allocated to individual houses and inadvertently parked in someone elses space. This obviously still left a space (ours) but the neighbour from a few doors down decided to stick a snotty note to the windscreen.
Something like "Don't park in our space again, number 43".
I went out, found the note, moved the car and kept the note in the house.
One day, came home from work to find his company BMW in OUR drive! Oh what fun lol. I ran into the house like a kid at christmas. Grabbed the note, crossed out number 43 and wrote number 39 and rang back out and stuck it on HIS windscreen. Sat back and PMSL!!!
Went out an hour later and it was back in his space. Made my night. Must have kept the note for months lol.
Something like "Don't park in our space again, number 43".
I went out, found the note, moved the car and kept the note in the house.
One day, came home from work to find his company BMW in OUR drive! Oh what fun lol. I ran into the house like a kid at christmas. Grabbed the note, crossed out number 43 and wrote number 39 and rang back out and stuck it on HIS windscreen. Sat back and PMSL!!!
Went out an hour later and it was back in his space. Made my night. Must have kept the note for months lol.
31 July 2012, 08:28 PM
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Having read the whole thread, it seems a bit cheeky to be parking a massive van outside your neighbour's house. Personally, I would try to make other arrangements and swap the van for the car at the very least. Just my opinion.
31 July 2012, 08:45 PM
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A question to all you saying they should move the van; how would you feel if your neighbours had complained to your employer and told lies about you without attempting to discuss the situation with yourself?
31 July 2012, 08:48 PM
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I'd be thinking, WOW, they must be REALLY pissed off and MOVE THE FRIGGIN VAN!
Having said that, I'd probably go over there and explain that I will have to park the car there instead because there just isn't enough room anywhere else. Sorry n all that!
Having said that, I'd probably go over there and explain that I will have to park the car there instead because there just isn't enough room anywhere else. Sorry n all that!
31 July 2012, 08:50 PM
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And what would this common ground be? Maybe not to park it there? Oh, there's an idea!
Do you REALLY need your neighbours to come over to you and ASK you not to park your van outside their house to get the message. The fact they have complained to Mickys employers should be a little hint.
Do you REALLY need your neighbours to come over to you and ASK you not to park your van outside their house to get the message. The fact they have complained to Mickys employers should be a little hint.
I'll try to summarise. Micky has lived here now for over 5 years, when he first moved here, he parked the van on the grassed area opposite, out of the way, not causing any parking problems. The only time it was parked on the road, was if it rained heavily. Nothing was ever said by anyone when the van did need to go on the road. This was until the council said this was a no no, so it had to go on the road. Because of the limited parking on the road, the only place for it was where it is in the picture.
Time went by, and nothing was ever said by these neighbours, or their family, to us or to work until about a year ago (I think I corrected the timing of this in an earlier post of mine) when the ambulance wasn't able to park outside. So that is about 4 years of us living, being unaware of any problem, and I can only assume there wasn't one, or they would have contacted his work way before last year.
At that time, I spoke to him and while ideally he didn't want anything parked there, he seemed to accept what I was trying to get across about there being little space on the road, we even looked down the street, to highlight what I was saying, and at that time, there was no other space for it. He hadn't been aware that the council stopped Micky parking on the grass. It was left at that, and until now, nothing has been mentioned. So ignoring for a second, whether some of you think we are in the wrong, it seemed like he understood the problem and all was as OK as it could be.
Only for their daughter to take it upon herself to complain again when nothing has changed for us to be able to do anything else. Truthfully, this makes me think the crux of it is basically, they want the space free for when she turns up. Please try to put the van to one side for a moment, they don't want ANYTHING there, and the parking on the street won't allow for this.
31 July 2012, 08:55 PM
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So you wouldn't care that they have tried to get you in trouble at work by being deceitful, nor worry about what consequences it could have on your career?
31 July 2012, 08:57 PM
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31 July 2012, 09:13 PM
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The difference here, is we aren't preventing them parking as they don't have a vehicle, whereas by them doing the above they would be preventing us, and if there was all this available space, we wouldn't be parked where we are anyway. All that said, whilst I might not be happy, that would be my problem. The street is free for anyone to park up and nobody has any specific rights to a space.