Are we being ripped off with the recession?
07 August 2012, 01:15 PM
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Well what does it cost then? It must cost something.
You'll be amazed at how much transport costs these days. Then you have to allow for currency fluctuations as well as all the other costs involved for stocking this item.
Even if it costs £3 landed, £10 is not unreasonable for a hammer is it, especially when we pay nearly £4 a pint and £8 for a pack of ****.
You'll be amazed at how much transport costs these days. Then you have to allow for currency fluctuations as well as all the other costs involved for stocking this item.
Even if it costs £3 landed, £10 is not unreasonable for a hammer is it, especially when we pay nearly £4 a pint and £8 for a pack of ****.
07 August 2012, 01:28 PM
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if they were taking this margin on something which you buy regularly I would view it differently, I have 4 or 5 hammers of varying size and weight for different jobs, they probably cost me between £10 - £30 at the time but I have had them for almost 20 years. The only way I can envisage having to replace them is if they are stolen, or someone borrows one and fails to return it.
07 August 2012, 02:35 PM
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We don't believe prices like this because we live in the UK.
I can assure you it came from a good source,
How much do you think you can have dinners delivered to your work place every day in India ?????
Answer £ 2.00 PER MONTH
It's another way of life in countries like this to the point we dont believe it, but it's true.
07 August 2012, 03:28 PM
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But then look at the average wage - It is around £700 PER YEAR!
As soon as any of their products hit the UK market, our government taxes them to the hilt.
As soon as any of their products hit the UK market, our government taxes them to the hilt.
07 August 2012, 03:51 PM
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A good mate of mine imports computer related items from Asia.
We repaired his warehouse floor and he came over to me smiling. He pointed to 6 pallet loads of kids microscopes that have a USB connection. As you put things under the microscope you see the image on your PC.
RRP just under £80
He paid 72 pence each for them.
As for keyboards its a joke.
We repaired his warehouse floor and he came over to me smiling. He pointed to 6 pallet loads of kids microscopes that have a USB connection. As you put things under the microscope you see the image on your PC.
RRP just under £80
He paid 72 pence each for them.
As for keyboards its a joke.
07 August 2012, 04:50 PM
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Aren't cars in Japan almost half the price as they are in UK? I remember looking at what original Scoobys were going for in Japan years ago....
And this was Jap-spec (as in grey inports NOT uk spec) so in other words like-for-like. Shipping, import duty, tax.... Kerching!!
Nick
And this was Jap-spec (as in grey inports NOT uk spec) so in other words like-for-like. Shipping, import duty, tax.... Kerching!!
Nick
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07 August 2012, 05:21 PM
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I used to work for a company that manufactured their own drilling machines in their own factories in Europe. They'd then sell them to their UK sales operation. Actual company profit was made selling the stuff to the UK from a tax-free principality.
Price to UK sales arm: £65
Catalogue Price for same to customer: £738
That was 10 years ago
Price to UK sales arm: £65
Catalogue Price for same to customer: £738
That was 10 years ago
07 August 2012, 06:32 PM
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I own a small diamond drilling company.
You go and hire a 152mm dia diamond drilling bit you pay roughly £ 65.00 per mm used.
You will be charged a minimum of£ 65 weather you use the bit or not. You then need to hire the drill, suction plate and everything else.
If you ***** up drilling (like most do) you will do the drilling bit, all 8mm of it and get charged £520.
I know where the hire shop bits come from and they cost on average around £46-52 each for synthetic rubbish.
We use diamond rejected from the jewelry industries that cost MUCH more but hire shops use the cheapest chinese junk available.
Thats why we end up finishing most jobs where the guys hire.
You go and hire a 152mm dia diamond drilling bit you pay roughly £ 65.00 per mm used.
You will be charged a minimum of£ 65 weather you use the bit or not. You then need to hire the drill, suction plate and everything else.
If you ***** up drilling (like most do) you will do the drilling bit, all 8mm of it and get charged £520.
I know where the hire shop bits come from and they cost on average around £46-52 each for synthetic rubbish.
We use diamond rejected from the jewelry industries that cost MUCH more but hire shops use the cheapest chinese junk available.
Thats why we end up finishing most jobs where the guys hire.
07 August 2012, 07:44 PM
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I own a small diamond drilling company.
You go and hire a 152mm dia diamond drilling bit you pay roughly £ 65.00 per mm used.
You will be charged a minimum of£ 65 weather you use the bit or not. You then need to hire the drill, suction plate and everything else.
If you ***** up drilling (like most do) you will do the drilling bit, all 8mm of it and get charged £520.
I know where the hire shop bits come from and they cost on average around £46-52 each for synthetic rubbish.
We use diamond rejected from the jewelry industries that cost MUCH more but hire shops use the cheapest chinese junk available.
Thats why we end up finishing most jobs where the guys hire.
You go and hire a 152mm dia diamond drilling bit you pay roughly £ 65.00 per mm used.
You will be charged a minimum of£ 65 weather you use the bit or not. You then need to hire the drill, suction plate and everything else.
If you ***** up drilling (like most do) you will do the drilling bit, all 8mm of it and get charged £520.
I know where the hire shop bits come from and they cost on average around £46-52 each for synthetic rubbish.
We use diamond rejected from the jewelry industries that cost MUCH more but hire shops use the cheapest chinese junk available.
Thats why we end up finishing most jobs where the guys hire.
07 August 2012, 09:14 PM
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Cheap shops are making a lot of money in this recession. Everybody is going to LIDL, Aldi and to the places like b&m for bits and pieces. So should they. Why should anyone pay over the odds when there are places that are happy with under the odds payments, eh? Shun the rip-off merchants, and go to someone who can sell you cheaper. Then again, I won't bring my standards down too drastically, either. For example, I wouldn't shop in Iceland. I recently went there to buy a couple of ready meals. Prawn curry was tolerable except there were no prawns in it. Just spices, and that's about it. But chicken biryani was so revolting that even my cats wouldn't have it. My lad's Dog Jake would have gobbled it, but then again, he'd gobble anything- the greedy sod.
I fancied a cigarette lately. So I tried to buy a lighter at the garage to begin with. When I saw the cost of the lighter, that alone put me off smoking again. £1.30 for a lighter??? They are really taking a p!ss these days.
I fancied a cigarette lately. So I tried to buy a lighter at the garage to begin with. When I saw the cost of the lighter, that alone put me off smoking again. £1.30 for a lighter??? They are really taking a p!ss these days.
08 August 2012, 01:03 AM
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Well what does it cost then? It must cost something.
You'll be amazed at how much transport costs these days. Then you have to allow for currency fluctuations as well as all the other costs involved for stocking this item.
Even if it costs £3 landed, £10 is not unreasonable for a hammer is it, especially when we pay nearly £4 a pint and £8 for a pack of ****.
You'll be amazed at how much transport costs these days. Then you have to allow for currency fluctuations as well as all the other costs involved for stocking this item.
Even if it costs £3 landed, £10 is not unreasonable for a hammer is it, especially when we pay nearly £4 a pint and £8 for a pack of ****.
was for £10 to transport it around the world rather than make it in the UK TX.
08 August 2012, 01:09 AM
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Only £2 for three clipper lighters where I work. Not that I am encouraging starting smoking again, so ignore the above. 
Seriously though, you are right, a lot of people are shopping around now because better prices can be had elsewhere, even if it means lowering standards a little. It's amazing how many people come to where I work now (as in, they hadn't been before) and are taken aback by the price difference to other retailers, but just because they insisted on going to a certain 'better' place for so long, they have been getting well shafted.
If money is no object at all, then people can suit themselves where they shop, but even then, I think it is odd to pay potentially much more for something, just out of status or snobbery or whatever it is???? Different when it comes to bigger/more expensive items perhaps due to service and guarantees , but mars bars and shampoo, even paint, the list goes on????
When you look at some of the retailers either in trouble, or already fallen, it often is a case of those unwilling to flex on prices and they just aren't/weren't competitive enough anymore.
08 August 2012, 07:56 AM
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From a professional decorator, when he puts it on the wall for you.
Seriously though, we've seen a massive increase in the cost of raw materials and therefore paint, in he last 12-18 months.
Getting ridiculously expensive, and we now put almost zero mark up on materials.
Seriously though, we've seen a massive increase in the cost of raw materials and therefore paint, in he last 12-18 months.
Getting ridiculously expensive, and we now put almost zero mark up on materials.
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09 August 2012, 10:46 AM
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But they have to pay a buyer to source this cheap crap.
They they have to purchase and organise to have it shipped and they stuck on big lorry to be delivered to their store.
Then they have the storemen that have to unload said truck and put cheap crap hammers in stock/on shelves.
Plus - those shelves need bought, and that big fancy building needs heating/lighting/toilets etc.
OK, they're still making a reasonable return on margin of course, but not as high as one might think.
09 August 2012, 11:01 AM
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OK - fair enough.
But they have to pay a buyer to source this cheap crap.
They they have to purchase and organise to have it shipped and they stuck on big lorry to be delivered to their store.
Then they have the storemen that have to unload said truck and put cheap crap hammers in stock/on shelves.
Plus - those shelves need bought, and that big fancy building needs heating/lighting/toilets etc.
OK, they're still making a reasonable return on margin of course, but not as high as one might think.
But they have to pay a buyer to source this cheap crap.
They they have to purchase and organise to have it shipped and they stuck on big lorry to be delivered to their store.
Then they have the storemen that have to unload said truck and put cheap crap hammers in stock/on shelves.
Plus - those shelves need bought, and that big fancy building needs heating/lighting/toilets etc.
OK, they're still making a reasonable return on margin of course, but not as high as one might think.
09 August 2012, 12:05 PM
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Seriously though, you are right, a lot of people are shopping around now because better prices can be had elsewhere, even if it means lowering standards a little. It's amazing how many people come to where I work now (as in, they hadn't been before) and are taken aback by the price difference to other retailers, but just because they insisted on going to a certain 'better' place for so long, they have been getting well shafted.
.29p for a croissant sorts my lunch out. If you buy 4, you get them for a quid. Sorted.