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Old 12 August 2012, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
I hear ya. In F1, there are a number of race leading to the World Championship which is like Olympic heats leading to the Final. There ain't no Silver medal for coming second in the F1 WC
I'm not saying it's bad to be happy at being one of the top 3 in the world at something (i will certainly never have that) but i find it difficult to comprehend celebrating winning a bronze / Silver when in reality you have lost gold.
It is difficult to believe that you have to make a fuss about such a thing. Why on earth should there not be awards to celebrate 2nd and third places? No reason why one can't mark the achievement of being that close to winning.

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Old 12 August 2012, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
I hear ya. In F1, there are a number of race leading to the World Championship which is like Olympic heats leading to the Final. There ain't no Silver medal for coming second in the F1 WC
I'm not saying it's bad to be happy at being one of the top 3 in the world at something (i will certainly never have that) but i find it difficult to comprehend celebrating winning a bronze / Silver when in reality you have lost gold.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't the First, Second and Third placed drivers at every race in the championship get awarded trophies
Old 12 August 2012, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
It is difficult to believe that you have to make a fuss about such a thing. Why on earth should there not be awards to celebrate 2nd and third places? No reason why one can't mark the achievement of being that close to winning.

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I'm not making a fuss - i made a simple observation!
Old 12 August 2012, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't the First, Second and Third placed drivers at every race in the championship get awarded trophies
You are not wrong - but i said there ain't a silver medal for 2nd in the WC
Old 12 August 2012, 03:50 PM
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I got the impression that Tom was so pleased at getting at least any medal was in honour of his Dad
Old 12 August 2012, 04:02 PM
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Got to be honest - i knew nothing about his Dad before this thread. I've tried my hardest to avoid the Olympics but being Married to a sports fan has made this impossible
Old 12 August 2012, 04:23 PM
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Old 14 August 2012, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
Got to be honest - i knew nothing about his Dad before this thread. I've tried my hardest to avoid the Olympics but being Married to a sports fan has made this impossible
Hardly qualified to comment then!

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Old 14 August 2012, 04:47 PM
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pointless thread
Old 14 August 2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
The lad lost his dad recently to a cancer and through all that is on for 4 A's in his A-Levels. He is a credit to his parents and his country and his performance tonight was superb. The lad is not even 20 and yet he's one of the best in the world in his chosen profession..... I'd say he's done Ok
+2 he's done brilliantly. Perhaps you'd rather he was on a street corner begging tabs off people and trying to purloin some cider before pissing through your granny's letterbox?

Personally, I reckon you need to look at yourself if you don't know that you've done your best. If you are at the Olympics and you don't win, you better have run/jumped/swum a personal best or you messed up your training big style.

It's a profession as he will get taxed on his earnings. Hobbies attract no tax. It was the argument Phil Taylor put forward for why darts is a bona fida sport and not just a pub game.

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Old 14 August 2012, 07:28 PM
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Hardly qualified to comment then!

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I don't need to be qualified to state my opinion. What i said stands and you don't agree with it - fine.
I've had silver medals in the past for things (although not in the same league as the Olympics - or even close for that matter) and they have meant nothing to me as somebody else has won - that's my outlook.
Old 14 August 2012, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by stedee
pointless thread
Pointless post - if you don't like it then don't post - is that simple enough for you
Old 14 August 2012, 07:41 PM
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i think you are missing the fact that the Olympics is the worlds best sportsmen (and women) If you come 3rd out off all those people you should be pleased. I mean you start at the bottom and work your way up so of course you should be pleased at a bronze at the Olympics as its a higher standard of competition. If it was the European championships and someone won a gold , they would be happier to win a bronze at the World championship as its a harder competition.
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Originally Posted by Brun
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Having just being forced to watch Tom going nuts and diving in the pool in excitement at winning a bronze medal it occurred to me that he's technically the second loser. Why celebrate coming third?. Why not have Brass, Copper, Steel, Plastic, Wood and Rubber medals then everyone can celebrate not winning.

Discuss.....
if you really have to ask that question its a pointless thread

its pretty obvious to everyone else
Old 14 August 2012, 07:58 PM
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The Mens Gymnastics are a good example of they didn't get many medals, hell they weren't even in the individuals finals for most events, yet I think they all had better scores than previously, so they have all improved and all have something to be proud of

The women who faired much worse, still did better than they had done previously so again something to be proud of

Jordan Weiber looked disheartened after getting knocked out by her team mate, but you could clearly see her team mate wanted the win and it showed, and she was infinitely better than Jordan
Old 14 August 2012, 08:13 PM
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Second in Olympics is same as 2nd best in the world imho, quite an achievement don't you think?! I run a 10k x country every few months & I'm fookin chuffed if I don't finish last ffs ...

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Old 14 August 2012, 08:29 PM
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oh , and if gold and silver get done for doping , bronze becomes gold !
Old 14 August 2012, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stedee
if you really have to ask that question its a pointless thread

its pretty obvious to everyone else
Really - so why not celebrate being 4th best in the world then with a copper medal??? Surely being 4th best in the whole wide world should qualify for that?
Old 14 August 2012, 09:46 PM
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no-one said they were happy to get a bronze medal per-say , the fact he was 3rd was the reason he celebrated , i am sure he would still have been happy to be 4th , or if you only got a medal for comming 1st. Its just getting silly with degrading metals the further way down the leaderboard you go. Its not that hard to understand , if you were karting , and you came 3rd would you not still be happy ? This was the Olympics !
Old 14 August 2012, 09:50 PM
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Karting - no, only interested in the win

I'm never gonna be third best at something in the world or maybe even 3 millionth best at something in the world. I was just surprised at the excitement displayed at not winning something and being third without it seems any disappointment at not being the winner - that was all
Old 15 August 2012, 01:00 AM
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People were delighted about coming last in a heat but setting a personal best. Perfectly understandable for me.

Imagine being the 3rd best-paid in your chosen profession for example. What a loser you'd be!
Old 15 August 2012, 01:19 AM
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If you look at F1 this season up to now if you were third in the 11 races up to now you would be leading the table by one point so all thing being equal you could win the drivers championship by never winning a race and comming in third in every race. What a bummer no joy for the winner NOT!!
Old 15 August 2012, 08:45 AM
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To quote Bender from Futurama - "Second place? That's a fancy word for losing!"
Old 15 August 2012, 09:12 AM
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I suppose it depends on your expectations. Tom Daley won gold at the World and European championships, so I would have expected him to be disappointed to not get gold.

However, if I were ranked 54th in the world and got bronze, then I would probably show my **** to the crowd in celebration!

It's all relative.

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Old 15 August 2012, 10:21 AM
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What Geezer said ^^ ... it's all relative to your expectations. Those disappointed with silver must've expected gold (based on rank, past performance etc.) and those delighted with silver probably never expected to get a top two finish (for the same reasons).
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Originally Posted by Geezer

However, if I were ranked 54th in the world and got bronze, then I would probably show my **** to the crowd in celebration!

It's all relative.

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I think some of those Divers almost did
Old 15 August 2012, 10:46 AM
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Ah yes, the old budgie smugglers! Must be difficult to keep anything on entering the water from 10m!

I think the women should do the 10m board in bikinis

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Old 15 August 2012, 12:17 PM
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Tom had a really tough qualification and had to repeat that first dive. To be honest, he was understandably pleased to be on the podium.

Remember the synchro one? They went from first to fourth in one dive so at least he got something from the event.

Also, there were people finishing outside the medals that actually broke national records. I'd be pretty pleased with that I'd think.


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Originally Posted by Brun
18 and he's put his quite ripped body on show for all the young ladies of the world to ogle over. He will now have his pick of 1000's of girls to go conkers deep in - maybe that's the celebration?
Do you not know he`s a bumder then?
Old 15 August 2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ScoobySteve69
Do you not know he`s a bumder then?
He has a girlfriend, Kassidy Cook from the USA swimming team. OK, could be a cover, but why? Being gay isn't a hurdle like it used to be. I sit next to a gut at work who on his won admission sounds gay, but he's rampantly heterosexual!

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