Raising standards in the UK- thank you Gove
25 August 2012, 01:53 PM
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The previous government lowered the required standards in a cynical effort to make it look as though they were improving educational results all round.
Employers were complaining that school leavers standards were becoming so low that they were virtually unemployable.
They have suddenly discovered what a proper educational requirement is all about and it has been a nasty shock both to the school leavers and the schools who suddenly see their results drop through the floor. How inconvenient!
I hope that Gove continues with his present policies.
Les
Employers were complaining that school leavers standards were becoming so low that they were virtually unemployable.
They have suddenly discovered what a proper educational requirement is all about and it has been a nasty shock both to the school leavers and the schools who suddenly see their results drop through the floor. How inconvenient!
I hope that Gove continues with his present policies.
Les
25 August 2012, 05:26 PM
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So many terms floating around in teaching pedagogy literature; if by intention marking you mean do we mark to learning outcomes (sometimes referred to as learning intentions I believe) then it's probably more accurate to say that that we devise learning outcomes that are level appropriate according to SECC descriptors and then have to map assessment such that it demonstrates these outcomes. The marking criteria itself depends on the assessment type, so there will be one for essays, labs etc... For each type of marking criteria there is also a grading criteria that specifies what level of attainment in respect of each of the criteria is characteristic of a 1st, 2:1, fail etc...
That answer your question?
25 August 2012, 05:46 PM
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The previous government lowered the required standards in a cynical effort to make it look as though they were improving educational results all round.
Employers were complaining that school leavers standards were becoming so low that they were virtually unemployable.
They have suddenly discovered what a proper educational requirement is all about and it has been a nasty shock both to the school leavers and the schools who suddenly see their results drop through the floor. How inconvenient!
I hope that Gove continues with his present policies.
Les
Employers were complaining that school leavers standards were becoming so low that they were virtually unemployable.
They have suddenly discovered what a proper educational requirement is all about and it has been a nasty shock both to the school leavers and the schools who suddenly see their results drop through the floor. How inconvenient!
I hope that Gove continues with his present policies.
Les
25 August 2012, 05:51 PM
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We could also point the finger at the exam boards.
Examinations became big business with £millions changing hands under the Tories in 1988.
University boards, like Oxford, Cambridge etc, were squeezed out by money-making institutions, all of which were linked to Tory ministers. Allegedly.
Schools had a free choice who to use.
Now, here's a hard choice: do they use board AAA, who have hard exams, rated by universities, and see their pass rates fall, or do they use Board BBB, who have easy exams, but who's exams aren't particularly rated?
Yep.....they all go for BBB.
And Board AAA, now losing money? What do THEY do? Yep, lower their pass rates to make more money......
Cheers Thatch, Baker, Josephs, et al.
Examinations became big business with £millions changing hands under the Tories in 1988.
University boards, like Oxford, Cambridge etc, were squeezed out by money-making institutions, all of which were linked to Tory ministers. Allegedly.
Schools had a free choice who to use.
Now, here's a hard choice: do they use board AAA, who have hard exams, rated by universities, and see their pass rates fall, or do they use Board BBB, who have easy exams, but who's exams aren't particularly rated?
Yep.....they all go for BBB.
And Board AAA, now losing money? What do THEY do? Yep, lower their pass rates to make more money......
Cheers Thatch, Baker, Josephs, et al.
25 August 2012, 07:40 PM
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26 August 2012, 08:45 AM
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We could also point the finger at the exam boards.
Examinations became big business with £millions changing hands under the Tories in 1988.
University boards, like Oxford, Cambridge etc, were squeezed out by money-making institutions, all of which were linked to Tory ministers. Allegedly.
Schools had a free choice who to use.
Now, here's a hard choice: do they use board AAA, who have hard exams, rated by universities, and see their pass rates fall, or do they use Board BBB, who have easy exams, but who's exams aren't particularly rated?
Yep.....they all go for BBB.
And Board AAA, now losing money? What do THEY do? Yep, lower their pass rates to make more money......
Cheers Thatch, Baker, Josephs, et al.
Examinations became big business with £millions changing hands under the Tories in 1988.
University boards, like Oxford, Cambridge etc, were squeezed out by money-making institutions, all of which were linked to Tory ministers. Allegedly.
Schools had a free choice who to use.
Now, here's a hard choice: do they use board AAA, who have hard exams, rated by universities, and see their pass rates fall, or do they use Board BBB, who have easy exams, but who's exams aren't particularly rated?
Yep.....they all go for BBB.
And Board AAA, now losing money? What do THEY do? Yep, lower their pass rates to make more money......
Cheers Thatch, Baker, Josephs, et al.
29 August 2012, 04:56 PM
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Still no explanation as to the title of this thread
Given the evidence....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19465555
I repeat, what exactly did your hero do to earn such high praise?
I'll try and avoid using 'blinkered'
Given the evidence....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19465555
I repeat, what exactly did your hero do to earn such high praise?
I'll try and avoid using 'blinkered'
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04 September 2012, 05:01 PM
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Understandably there is a lot of emotion attached to this topic but the short term trend shift is rather being over-reported. As others have said on here, it doesn't get away from the long term trend of moderating results to achieve higher pass rates. It's why the A* mark had to be introduced as it was deemed too easy to get just an A. In simple terms today's A* is equivalent to an A from 20 years ago, an A to a B etc.
It's tough for the kids who've worked hard to be told grades are easier to achieve now but the data is incontrovertible. http://www.ianhopkinson.org.uk/2012/...ough-the-ages/
What is hard to distinguish is how much the apparent improvement in results is real (better teaching, brighter kids?) and how much is down to manipulation of the award levels. What I can't reconcile is the clamour suggesting today's youth can't spell/ add up etc with these remarkable exam performances. The notion that kids are getting brighter also doesn't really fit with the breeding patterns in society (several scientists have published data suggesting evolution is reversing in man - no longer the survival of the fittest but now survival of the poorest / lowly educated who breed more.
A great topic for political posturing and emotion, but it really needs a long term consistent plan to focus on, and reward, those who are truly the best in their chosen fields.
Gordon
It's tough for the kids who've worked hard to be told grades are easier to achieve now but the data is incontrovertible. http://www.ianhopkinson.org.uk/2012/...ough-the-ages/
What is hard to distinguish is how much the apparent improvement in results is real (better teaching, brighter kids?) and how much is down to manipulation of the award levels. What I can't reconcile is the clamour suggesting today's youth can't spell/ add up etc with these remarkable exam performances. The notion that kids are getting brighter also doesn't really fit with the breeding patterns in society (several scientists have published data suggesting evolution is reversing in man - no longer the survival of the fittest but now survival of the poorest / lowly educated who breed more.
A great topic for political posturing and emotion, but it really needs a long term consistent plan to focus on, and reward, those who are truly the best in their chosen fields.
Gordon
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