Apple v Samsung ruling
25 August 2012, 12:25 PM
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Counter punch. South Korean court says Samsung didn't copy Apple design.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...d67_story.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...d67_story.html
25 August 2012, 12:26 PM
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I just can not see how this is some sort of victory for Apple, the judgement goes beyond stupid the more you read about it.
It would be impossible for this jury to come to such a decision in a short space of time, even if they were all experts in mobile electronics and patent law.
If the jury had actually taken the time necessary to properly deliberate this, then it would have been a six month process, the sheer longevity of deliberation is also not for the layperson with no given field of knowledge in the subject.
Samsung were being judged by a group of people in a country with rife nationalism and with a general prejudice against Japan/Korea who proved too stupid to get out of jury duty.
It would be impossible for this jury to come to such a decision in a short space of time, even if they were all experts in mobile electronics and patent law.
If the jury had actually taken the time necessary to properly deliberate this, then it would have been a six month process, the sheer longevity of deliberation is also not for the layperson with no given field of knowledge in the subject.
Samsung were being judged by a group of people in a country with rife nationalism and with a general prejudice against Japan/Korea who proved too stupid to get out of jury duty.
25 August 2012, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Cook
Today was an important day for Apple and for innovators everywhere.
Many of you have been closely following the trial against Samsung in San Jose for the past few weeks. We chose legal action very reluctantly and only after repeatedly asking Samsung to stop copying our work. For us this lawsuit has always been about something much more important than patents or money. It’s about values. We value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. And we do this to delight our customers, not for competitors to flagrantly copy.
We owe a debt of gratitude to the jury who invested their time in listening to our story. We were thrilled to finally have the opportunity to tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trial showed that Samsung’s copying went far deeper than we knew.
The jury has now spoken. We applaud them for finding Samsung’s behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn’t right.
I am very proud of the work that each of you do.
Today, values have won and I hope the whole world listens.
Tim
Many of you have been closely following the trial against Samsung in San Jose for the past few weeks. We chose legal action very reluctantly and only after repeatedly asking Samsung to stop copying our work. For us this lawsuit has always been about something much more important than patents or money. It’s about values. We value originality and innovation and pour our lives into making the best products on earth. And we do this to delight our customers, not for competitors to flagrantly copy.
We owe a debt of gratitude to the jury who invested their time in listening to our story. We were thrilled to finally have the opportunity to tell it. The mountain of evidence presented during the trial showed that Samsung’s copying went far deeper than we knew.
The jury has now spoken. We applaud them for finding Samsung’s behavior willful and for sending a loud and clear message that stealing isn’t right.
I am very proud of the work that each of you do.
Today, values have won and I hope the whole world listens.
Tim
Originally Posted by Samsung's post trial statement
Today’s verdict should not be viewed as a win for Apple, but as a loss for the American consumer. It will lead to fewer choices, less innovation, and potentially higher prices. It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies. Consumers have the right to choices, and they know what they are buying when they purchase Samsung products. This is not the final word in this case or in battles being waged in courts and tribunals around the world, some of which have already rejected many of Apple’s claims. Samsung will continue to innovate and offer choices for the consumer. - (Samsung's post trial statement)
25 August 2012, 12:40 PM
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In actual fact there is no negotiation, Apple set the cost of the handsets and the the network providers either take it or leave it. The only leeway for consumers wanting the iPhone is on the tariff.
25 August 2012, 01:56 PM
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The LG KE850 Prada came out 6 weeks before the iphone and was announced before the iphone, it was a 3g phone (the iphone was a 2g device with edge), you could say that this is the first real smart phone, it changed the market, look how much apple's phone looked similar!
25 August 2012, 01:59 PM
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25 August 2012, 02:18 PM
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He is 
anything anti apple and he goes and thows his teddy in the corner 
Just for Jack
The LG KE850, also known as the LG Prada,[1] is a touchscreen mobile phone made by LG Electronics. It was first announced on December 12, 2006.[2] Images of the device appeared on websites such as Engadget Mobile on December 15, 2006.[3] An official press release showing an image of the device appeared on January 18, 2007.[1] Sales start in May 2007. It was the first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen. LG Prada sold 1 million units[4][5] in the first 18 months.
The iPhone (play /ˈaɪfoʊn/ EYE-fohn) is a line of smartphones designed and marketed by Apple Inc. which run on iOS, originally iPhone OS. The first iPhone was unveiled by Steve Jobs, then CEO of Apple, on January 9, 2007,[1] and released on June 29, 2007.
anything anti apple and he goes and thows his teddy in the corner Just for Jack
The LG KE850, also known as the LG Prada,[1] is a touchscreen mobile phone made by LG Electronics. It was first announced on December 12, 2006.[2] Images of the device appeared on websites such as Engadget Mobile on December 15, 2006.[3] An official press release showing an image of the device appeared on January 18, 2007.[1] Sales start in May 2007. It was the first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen. LG Prada sold 1 million units[4][5] in the first 18 months.
The iPhone (play /ˈaɪfoʊn/ EYE-fohn) is a line of smartphones designed and marketed by Apple Inc. which run on iOS, originally iPhone OS. The first iPhone was unveiled by Steve Jobs, then CEO of Apple, on January 9, 2007,[1] and released on June 29, 2007.
25 August 2012, 02:44 PM
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He is anything anti apple and he goes and thows his teddy in the corner
Just for Jack
The LG KE850, also known as the LG Prada,[1] is a touchscreen mobile phone made by LG Electronics. It was first announced on December 12, 2006.[2] Images of the device appeared on websites such as Engadget Mobile on December 15, 2006.[3] An official press release showing an image of the device appeared on January 18, 2007.[1] Sales start in May 2007. It was the first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen. LG Prada sold 1 million units[4][5] in the first 18 months.
The iPhone (play /ˈaɪfoʊn/ EYE-fohn) is a line of smartphones designed and marketed by Apple Inc. which run on iOS, originally iPhone OS. The first iPhone was unveiled by Steve Jobs, then CEO of Apple, on January 9, 2007,[1] and released on June 29, 2007.
anything anti apple and he goes and thows his teddy in the corner Just for Jack
The LG KE850, also known as the LG Prada,[1] is a touchscreen mobile phone made by LG Electronics. It was first announced on December 12, 2006.[2] Images of the device appeared on websites such as Engadget Mobile on December 15, 2006.[3] An official press release showing an image of the device appeared on January 18, 2007.[1] Sales start in May 2007. It was the first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen. LG Prada sold 1 million units[4][5] in the first 18 months.
The iPhone (play /ˈaɪfoʊn/ EYE-fohn) is a line of smartphones designed and marketed by Apple Inc. which run on iOS, originally iPhone OS. The first iPhone was unveiled by Steve Jobs, then CEO of Apple, on January 9, 2007,[1] and released on June 29, 2007.
25 August 2012, 02:45 PM
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its not hard 
25 August 2012, 03:06 PM
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I read it. The official announcement for the LG was after the iPhone. Your words. Apple could probably have released some sham announcement 6 months before that, but that's not their style.
Give Apple some credit Tony, without them you probably wouldn't have a job, the iPhone almost makes up for the lack of 3G coverage in Wales.
Give Apple some credit Tony, without them you probably wouldn't have a job, the iPhone almost makes up for the lack of 3G coverage in Wales.
Luckily Apple are doing alright I suppose.
25 August 2012, 03:42 PM
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I read it. The official announcement for the LG was after the iPhone. Your words. Apple could probably have released some sham announcement 6 months before that, but that's not their style.
Give Apple some credit Tony, without them you probably wouldn't have a job, the iPhone almost makes up for the lack of 3G coverage in Wales.
Give Apple some credit Tony, without them you probably wouldn't have a job, the iPhone almost makes up for the lack of 3G coverage in Wales.
try the first line where it tells you when it was announced, january was the first offical picture but they had been out since december 06
25 August 2012, 03:57 PM
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The LG KE850, also known as the LG Prada,[1] is a touchscreen mobile phone made by LG Electronics. It was first announced on December 12, 2006.[2] Images of the device appeared on websites such as Engadget Mobile on December 15, 2006.[3] An official press release showing an image of the device appeared on January 18, 2007.[1] Sales start in May 2007. It was the first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen. LG Prada sold 1 million units[4][5] in the first 18 months.
The iPhone (play /ˈaɪfoʊn/ EYE-fohn) is a line of smartphones designed and marketed by Apple Inc. which run on iOS, originally iPhone OS. The first iPhone was unveiled by Steve Jobs, then CEO of Apple, on January 9, 2007,[1] and released on June 29, 2007.
anything anti apple and he goes and thows his teddy in the corner Just for Jack
The LG KE850, also known as the LG Prada,[1] is a touchscreen mobile phone made by LG Electronics. It was first announced on December 12, 2006.[2] Images of the device appeared on websites such as Engadget Mobile on December 15, 2006.[3] An official press release showing an image of the device appeared on January 18, 2007.[1] Sales start in May 2007. It was the first mobile phone with a capacitive touchscreen. LG Prada sold 1 million units[4][5] in the first 18 months.
The iPhone (play /ˈaɪfoʊn/ EYE-fohn) is a line of smartphones designed and marketed by Apple Inc. which run on iOS, originally iPhone OS. The first iPhone was unveiled by Steve Jobs, then CEO of Apple, on January 9, 2007,[1] and released on June 29, 2007.
25 August 2012, 04:02 PM
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It was first announced on December 12, 2006.
An official press release showing an image of the device appeared on January 18, 2007
Tony
25 August 2012, 04:25 PM
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That's right Tony, and Apple could have announced unofficially in 2005, that's 'year' before LG but they chose not too.
Look, why don't you give this up, it's pointless and I don't want you to have to take another few weeks off Scoobynet like the last few times you tried to be clever.
Look, why don't you give this up, it's pointless and I don't want you to have to take another few weeks off Scoobynet like the last few times you tried to be clever.
25 August 2012, 04:31 PM
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Dont need to take time off Jack, but I do enjoy doing other activities on my weeks off
Not everyone is like Apple and has an all singing, all dancing press conference, alot of companies will say "we are releasing xyz" then do a press conference rather than "this is what we are releasing"
Not everyone is like Apple and has an all singing, all dancing press conference, alot of companies will say "we are releasing xyz" then do a press conference rather than "this is what we are releasing"
25 August 2012, 04:38 PM
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Dont need to take time off Jack, but I do enjoy doing other activities on my weeks off
Not everyone is like Apple and has an all singing, all dancing press conference, alot of companies will say "we are releasing xyz" then do a press conference rather than "this is what we are releasing"
Not everyone is like Apple and has an all singing, all dancing press conference, alot of companies will say "we are releasing xyz" then do a press conference rather than "this is what we are releasing"
25 August 2012, 05:02 PM
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Apples release strategy is the envy of the electronics world. They don't need to release images to web sites months before an official press release like your example. They announce a product and in most cases you can then buy it, if not instantly within a reasonable timescale. They truly are masters of product release.
Tony
