Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

Shaid we can all post pics like that of England, Scotland, Germany, Canada etc, etc. But it doesn't alter the fact that Pakistan (like it or not) like other countries round that region has more than its fair share of deranged loonies.

Carlh

[quote=Shaid;10784226]Terrorists are camping



Brilliant shaid

Shaid

Pakistani Chav boy racer



Old Carina Resto




Terrorist restoring Carina (probably making bomb)



Deranged local with a Spitfire



Terrorist training camp



More Terrorist activity



Deranged local with his Taliban Jeep



More Jeep Taliban



Stolen Land Rover



Training in a Land Rover (must be a deranged local)



Terrorists and their Unimog

Shaid

It doesn't have Chavs though.

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

Well there is a bonus for a start

Shaid

Lol, in laymens terms in Pakistan don't step on anyone's religious toes. Just like here you shouldn't step on Army toes (all other toes is fair game). The people there are just like everywhere else albeit set in their ways (mind you there is some progress).

The people are being shat on by their government. The rich are getting richer and the poor poorer.

scooby2.5maz

iTrader: (16)

Blimey shaid , great pictures almost makes me wanna go for a tour !!
Could you not find any pictures of a Datsun 120 y SSS ????

An0n0m0us

Oh dear what a load of boll0cks. One of my good mates is half Pakistani and has family out there whom he visits. He isn't a religious nut job though thankfully. We share a huge interest in falconry which is what we spend our time together doing.

As for your comments about the returning British soldiers and your seeming support for those who protested against them says enough about you to me.

Also nowhere did I say Pakistan was devoid of any amazing landscapes but feel free to carry on posting great pictures as I appreciate great shots as much as anyone else.

An0n0m0us

No they are not and that was the point. To have blasphemy laws that carry a punishment of death is so far backwards it is incredible it can still exist in 2012. So no it is not just like anywhere else.

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

Not strictly true An0n0m0us.

It is only the religious nut jobs who want to execute her, the law says life in prison.

An0n0m0us

So are you suggesting the blasphemy laws in Pakistan are being hyped up by the World's press and that it isn't a crime punishable by death?

The facts around the young girl remain unclear, whether she has learning difficulties or not, who it was that placed the burnt pages of the Koran on her etc. That doesn't change the fact about what she has been accused of and how serious it is taken in Pakistan. That is what is so ridiculous, that a country can have laws that allow capital punishment to be dished out all because someone damages a religious book or says something blasphemous.

urban

iTrader: (1)

So the laws also backward.

An0n0m0us

It says here blasphemy is punishable by death:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_Pakistan

I know Wikipedia isn't guaranteed to be right but I would have thought that claim would have been corrected if it wasn't accurate.

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

Agreed!

Shaid

Ah, i see what you did there. Because i mentioned said incident as a comparison you drew the conclusion that i must be a supporter. Sorry that's incorrect. In hindsight it is wrong for me to make said accusation about you too so apologies for you

An0n0m0us

Then we are quits I think, having re read what you posted, you may have been referring to the right wing extremists which you referred to as Londoners? If that is correct I didn't pick that up first time around and they should have been arrested as well as the protesters. There is no place for extremism from any political or religious direction.

Wurzel

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Furry muff.

I got my quote from here so it is anyones guess which is correct.

http://news.sky.com/story/982593/pak...emy-girl-freed

Charlie_Big_Bananas

I think highlighting it's 'visual beauty' despite its economical/social state has no harm. Forums are after all about cultural and social exchanges as much as anything else.

From 'purely the geographical/flora-fauna/historical perspective' though I'm not sure GB comes that close to Pakistan. Geographically its one of those very rare countries which has mountains, jungles, deserts and beaches all in one region. I'm not sure the Scottish Highlands compare to the Himalaya's or K2 though, despite each's own undeniable beauty. Nor Stonehenge to Mohendo-Jaro, nor the Domesticated Cat to the Snow Leopard.

Travelling for those fortunate enough, does truly broaden the mind and I strongly recommend it to all.

On the subject of "more than their fair share of lunatics", I think countries other than Pakistan have "more than their fair share of lunatics in Government", and that to us should be more worrying.

Which loonies affect us more instantly and directly, The Pakistani ones? Let's hope we don't become oblivious to our neighbouring ones.

Did anyone hear about the EDL March in London two weeks ago? I don't even think it made National news. BNP? Judging/harassing people based on the colour of their skin is one of the most basic forms of idiocy/lunacy. Breivik is just a short Easyjet ride away.

We clearly don't have to look that far globally for lunatics unfortunately. I do however wonder why the media is so selective about highlighting their favourite ones.

Shaid

Yep





Bad boy





Well here's some guys thread about installing a Lexus speedo in a Suzuki

http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i-...aleno-allaaadi

Sad freak nearly as sad as the infamous VXR details thread

http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i-...1955-detailing

Restoration of a Ford Model A 1928 been in the family for 83 years!

http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i-...wned-mr-feroze

An0n0m0us

We are a nation of 62 million if the stats are to be believed and the EDL are only a few hundred strong at most. Not a proportion that is of interest to anyone and not worth giving any publicity to. They are a bunch of idiots who no one listens to.

Pakistan in comparison is a nation of 180 million of whom 97% are Muslims. And I am pretty confident there are a considerably larger proportion of their population who fall into the extremist followings of Islam. That is something that is worth giving air time to because of the threat that poses. Especially when you have some come here and bring the ideas of Sharia Law with them.

Shaid

Free speech and expression should be allowed legally and socially whilst i do not agree that blasphemy should be punishable by death i whole heartedly agree that blasphemy laws should not be dismissed but rather updated and used responsibly.

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

I agree. You stand next to no chance of getting kidnapped and your head cut off in GB, (even by those savages north of the border ), which is not something you can say about Pakistan.

As for the beautiful bits of Pakistan, you need to get out of the towns and cities in order to see them which increases your risk of being kidnapped by some religious nutjobs.

Shaid

EDL might be a few hundred but just remember it was only a small team that killed 3000+ a decade ago. It was also one man who killed 50+ kids in Norway. Furthermore there might be a growing 'extreme' though set in Pakistan however we all know that there is always a reason behind this and no it is not because 'they don't like our way of life' in fact the people there could not care less about 'our' way of life. They have got much bigger issues locally.

An0n0m0us

Now that I completely agree with you about.

An0n0m0us

Now now Seriously though my mate when he goes to see family still has to be careful as he is not religious and so being out there he needs to mind his behaviour as I think he travels to a rural area to see his family.

Shaid

I know a lot of people who have been to and returned from Pakistan. None of them have been kidnapped or beheaded. It does happen but not as often as you thought. Although last time i went there the locals were talking about kicking crap out a British Pakistani lad who came from Derby (he did deserve it though, flashing cash and disrespecting old people) but that had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the fact he was being a kn*b.

Shaid

It is true, when we go there we are reminded that we are NOT Pakistani and we are visitors, we can have a laugh and have fun but there are boundaries which we should not cross.

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

But don't you go on holiday to have fun, relax and unwind? Not to stress out about watching every word you say or action you take! Obviously not be an idiot but to me it does not seem the ideal holiday destination when something you say or do can be misconstrued by someone who may see or overhear you.

An0n0m0us

One thing I do know is that there are exceptional falconers in Pakistan. Some of the youtube footage is amazing. I'd love to go there for that alone but i'd be beheaded within a day just for my unfortunately strong essex/east london accent Mind you I fear the same would happen if I travelled north of Watford

Charlie_Big_Bananas

Wurzel - Read the first half of my line - From "purely the geographical/flora-fauna/historical perspective". That line was deliberately put in to counter the type of comment you made. Please don't selectively chose parts of a sentence, it doesn't make anyone look smart.

Anonymous - Where do you get your information from? "And I am pretty confident there are a considerably larger proportion of their population who fall into the extremist followings of Islam"

Please remember, this is the same source that told us Iraq had WMD's and Diego Garcia had no indigenous population. War is good for business, ask the World's richest family the Rothchild's!.

I've personally travelled through Pakistan and never met a single soul showing any shred of extremism of the above, nor met anyone that knew anyone that knew anyone that knew anyone that did.

Did someone post something like? - "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear" :-)

On the worldwide statistical comparison note, there's over 2 billion muslims. The proportion of loonies is even more minuscule!