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Old 20 September 2012, 01:33 PM
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Well they must be updating pretty quickly, I ask Siri for directions to Stratford-upon-Avon and it gets it right.

I remember starting a thread on here about Google Earth, next to no one said it was great, 99% of posts were "I can't see my house, it's ****"
Old 20 September 2012, 01:35 PM
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Even tomtom pois aren't accurate they been doing it years
Old 20 September 2012, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
Even tomtom pois aren't accurate they been doing it years
I don't quite get everyone's focus on Map's, just go to Mail and pull down, that stretchy thing more than makes up for the local pie shop not being marked on the map.
Old 20 September 2012, 01:42 PM
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Something to moan about isn't it jack, people wouldn't be happy if they had nothing to moan about. Can't say I use maps a lot
Old 20 September 2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ant
Something to moan about isn't it jack, people wouldn't be happy if they had nothing to moan about. Can't say I use maps a lot
Very true, just a shame for me as I wish they'd find something else to moan about, I'm a Map and Nav addict and love the direction Apple are taking, brave but absolutely correct.
Old 20 September 2012, 01:58 PM
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Yes, having inaccurate and less detailed maps is the way forward.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:01 PM
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Google...




Apple Maps....



It's a brave new direction alright.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:05 PM
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can't say I've been impressed with Maps.....yet. Again, I can see where they're going with it, and with some development, it could be very interesting.

All in all, iOS6 is ok. The sad thing is that the expectation is always going to be greater than the actual real thing. But that isn't just related to Apple products - it applies to all releases that have a history of raising the eyebrow of interest.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:08 PM
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Like I said, iOS6 is great. Except for maps. Which are horrendous.

In other new, a firend of mine has been playing with a 5 (mine should be here tomorrow!) He said the screen is simply unbeleivably good and the finish on the actual device is amazing.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:10 PM
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Old 20 September 2012, 02:15 PM
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Brilliant. When it works the 3D is great. (Although you might want to do a comparison shot of the same location - Sort of meaningless otherwise)

Now try searching for an little known out of the way village.

Let's say "Doncaster"

Go on, I ****ing dare you to post up a screen shot of the result.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Brilliant. When it works the 3D is great. (Although you might want to do a comparison shot of the same location - Sort of meaningless otherwise)

Now try searching for an little known out of the way village.

Let's say "Doncaster"

Go on, I ****ing dare you to post up a screen shot of the result.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Go on, I ****ing dare you to post up a screen shot of the result.
****ing accepted.

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Apple looks better.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:29 PM
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Hehehe
Old 20 September 2012, 02:31 PM
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i wonder if apple will ever launch a product that isn't the best thing since sliced bread in jack's eyes?

In the dictionary under the definition of apple fanboy it just has a picture of jack hahahaha
Old 20 September 2012, 02:32 PM
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Anyone with just an iPhone 4, don't update expecting to 'enjoy' the new 3D maps, you don't get them.
I'm staying with iOS5 as iOS6 doesn't have anything 'killer' that convinces me to update.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
****ing accepted.

Apple

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Apple looks better.
Thankfully MDX was here to point out the glaring error. Still your example does a fine job of showing the level of detail missing from Apple maps. Nothing vital of course, only road names.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I don't quite get everyone's focus on Map's, just go to Mail and pull down, that stretchy thing more than makes up for the local pie shop not being marked on the map.
Maybe because you keep going on about how brilliant it is? If you talk about how great they are, and how much of an improvement the Apple version is over what was there before, don't be surprised when people post their findings when it's shown not to be the case...

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Old 20 September 2012, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
Thankfully MDX was here to point out the glaring error. Still your example does a fine job of showing the level of detail missing from Apple maps. Nothing vital of course, only road names.
As you zoom around the road names appear. Anyhow, they're not as bad as human nature would have you believe.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
****ing accepted.


Apple looks better.
Yes, "looks" better, but does not "work" better...
Old 20 September 2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
Maybe because you keep going on about how brilliant it is? If you talk about how great they are, and how much of an improvement the Apple version is over what was there before, don't be surprised when people post their findings when it's shown not to be the case...
And this is what can be annoying. I love the new Navigation, feels like a gift, 3D maps are plain incredible, Siri integration and integration with the operating system as a whole is spectacular. But, you don't see dog poop in your neighbours garden any more and Apple are ****.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I don't quite get everyone's focus on Map's, just go to Mail and pull down, that stretchy thing more than makes up for the local pie shop not being marked on the map.
Agreed, the stretchy thing rocks, kept me entertained for hours (probably explains a lot). The mrs wasn't quite so impressed.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
And this is what can be annoying. I love the new Navigation, feels like a gift, 3D maps are plain incredible, Siri integration and integration with the operating system as a whole is spectacular. But, you don't see dog poop in your neighbours garden any more and Apple are ****.
Jack. What we have got is a PS1 3D represenatation of Central London. Great.

As I showed previsouly, the level of detail for areas outside London is ridiculous. I mean it just a mess. Forget dog poop, you can't see whole towns!!!!!. The maps are inaccurate, places are marked that don't exist and some are completely in the wrong place and some aren't there at all.

iOS is great. Siri is great , much better than it was. iPhone 5 is going to be amazing. But Apple maps are shockingly bad. I guarantee Apple will be making a statement about it in the coming weeks.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
And this is what can be annoying. I love the new Navigation, feels like a gift, 3D maps are plain incredible, Siri integration and integration with the operating system as a whole is spectacular. But, you don't see dog poop in your neighbours garden any more and Apple are ****.
Now, now Jack. I never said anything about dogs, and never said apple were ****, so try don't try to twist the argument because you lost a point. I merely pointed out that you complain about something when people post comments you talk about because they disagree with you.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:52 PM
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Maybe they will, but what other than 'crack on' do you honestly think they will do, suddenly materialise a load of points of interest and satellite imagery, have patience, it will come.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
I merely pointed out that you complain about something when people post comments you talk about because they disagree with you.
I tried to understand that but failed.
Old 20 September 2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Maybe they will, but what other than 'crack on' do you honestly think they will do, suddenly materialise a load of points of interest and satellite imagery, have patience, it will come.
And in the meantime we are left with a dysfunctional load of tripe. As I said originally, if you are going to drop an app, then at least make its replacement useable. They have tried to do it too soon with Maps. What wa sit apple used to say? We won't release it unless its right? (See: Multi tasking on iPhone) No way would have this have happened on Jobs watch.

They shoudl have stuck with Google for another 12 months.
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Old 20 September 2012, 03:01 PM
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You seem to keep forgetting that Google Maps are still available.

And when you say Dysfunctional load of tripe, you of course mean your house isn't included in the Satellite imagery. That's awful for you, I'm sure it can't be easy, Paco from the Spanish village where I live will however be chuffed as his house is now included and the mountain is in 3d.
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People of Luton. Please do not be alarmed if you find yourself living in an entirely different part of the country now. Apple have decided you live by the coast.


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