So how will the next election go?
21 September 2012, 08:14 PM
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It will go labour. Why, because they are the party of the lazy and work shy. Places like Scunthorpe where me and Alcazar live is full of these types who will vote for whatever party fills their pockets most.
Scoobynet (well NSR) has generally an above average IQ to the average retared Brit on benefits. So we vote for the party who will resolve debt or supposedly try to reduce it. Said scroungers (and I'm not referring to those temporary) will and do vote for whoever offers them more money for ****, cider, TV's every time they pop a kid out.
Some ******** liberal leftie at work thinks that this welfare benefit state is the greatest thing invented. Why? Because it means the world looks up to us for being so developed.
I mentioned about people relying on benefit and it paying people better to scrounge than work.. His reply? It's their human right to not have to work
Scoobynet (well NSR) has generally an above average IQ to the average retared Brit on benefits. So we vote for the party who will resolve debt or supposedly try to reduce it. Said scroungers (and I'm not referring to those temporary) will and do vote for whoever offers them more money for ****, cider, TV's every time they pop a kid out.
Some ******** liberal leftie at work thinks that this welfare benefit state is the greatest thing invented. Why? Because it means the world looks up to us for being so developed.
I mentioned about people relying on benefit and it paying people better to scrounge than work.. His reply? It's their human right to not have to work
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21 September 2012, 08:28 PM
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the de-industrialisation that occurred in the late 70’s and 80’s
the strikes and industrial unrest, they were not fighting to sit on their ***** all day on benefits watching jeremy kyle
they were fighting to work
so were these people all work shy – miners working 8 hours underground in sh1tty conditions
something pretty fundemental changed -- i think most people are struggling to work out what it is
if they were to shut your plant down COB would you go on strike/picket line?
would you fight to save your job, globalisation teaches us they can always do it cheaper elsewhere
the strikes and industrial unrest, they were not fighting to sit on their ***** all day on benefits watching jeremy kyle
they were fighting to work
so were these people all work shy – miners working 8 hours underground in sh1tty conditions
something pretty fundemental changed -- i think most people are struggling to work out what it is
if they were to shut your plant down COB would you go on strike/picket line?
would you fight to save your job, globalisation teaches us they can always do it cheaper elsewhere
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21 September 2012, 08:51 PM
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I'm sorry, I thought NSR was for sweeping generalisations so was just joining in.
For the record Tata own our plant so it will eventually shut down and move to India, I'm not naive enough to assume otherwise
In all seriousness you can list the pro's and cons of both major parties and I'll still sure with the Tories. Whether that's reactionary I dunno, but I'll never vote labour whilst they even slightly resemble what they stand for now. Not even Scoobynet with all it's might will change my mind
For the record Tata own our plant so it will eventually shut down and move to India, I'm not naive enough to assume otherwise
In all seriousness you can list the pro's and cons of both major parties and I'll still sure with the Tories. Whether that's reactionary I dunno, but I'll never vote labour whilst they even slightly resemble what they stand for now. Not even Scoobynet with all it's might will change my mind
21 September 2012, 08:57 PM
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but when they do shut your plant down -- I wonder how many of your work colleagues will start watching jeremy kyle
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21 September 2012, 10:46 PM
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It will go labour. Why, because they are the party of the lazy and work shy. Places like Scunthorpe where me and Alcazar live is full of these types who will vote for whatever party fills their pockets most.
Scoobynet (well NSR) has generally an above average IQ to the average retared Brit on benefits. So we vote for the party who will resolve debt or supposedly try to reduce it. Said scroungers (and I'm not referring to those temporary) will and do vote for whoever offers them more money for ****, cider, TV's every time they pop a kid out.
Some ******** liberal leftie at work thinks that this welfare benefit state is the greatest thing invented. Why? Because it means the world looks up to us for being so developed.
I mentioned about people relying on benefit and it paying people better to scrounge than work.. His reply? It's their human right to not have to work
Scoobynet (well NSR) has generally an above average IQ to the average retared Brit on benefits. So we vote for the party who will resolve debt or supposedly try to reduce it. Said scroungers (and I'm not referring to those temporary) will and do vote for whoever offers them more money for ****, cider, TV's every time they pop a kid out.
Some ******** liberal leftie at work thinks that this welfare benefit state is the greatest thing invented. Why? Because it means the world looks up to us for being so developed.
I mentioned about people relying on benefit and it paying people better to scrounge than work.. His reply? It's their human right to not have to work
Labour won 3 elections because by and large middle England voted for them. Once again the same will be true, whoever wins the moderates wins the election
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21 September 2012, 10:58 PM
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I presume you are playing devil's advocate Hodgy as you are far too intelligent to believe this nonsense.
The world economy changes, this is not the UK govt's fault. It should not however 'reward' people to sit on their backsides and incentivise them to sh9t out more and more kids.
People stow themselves in the cargo hold of a plane for the chance to clean toilets in the UK, are you saying there are no opportunities for the indigenous population to make an honest living??
Or is it that they would rather let hard working families pay for them to have food, shelter, booze and ****?
24 September 2012, 01:12 PM
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24 September 2012, 02:24 PM
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24 September 2012, 05:21 PM
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Rather than bickering over the merits of Party X over Party Y, the OP is asking the community how they think the cards will fall in next election. A possibility that's not been discussed yet is that of the coalition falling apart prematurely.
I can't see the Tories forming a majority, they've annoyed too many traditional Tory voters over Europe and the UKIP effect will keep them out of power. I can't see Labour forming a majority, its too soon after Gordon Brown and Millipede is useless. LibDems are useless full stop. So what will happen? I most likely to my mind in a vote which I think will set a record in low turnout will be.... A Labour-Lib Dem coalition, in other words the worst of all possibilities! Greens and BNP don't see them capitalising either. Reasonable analysis?
I can't see the Tories forming a majority, they've annoyed too many traditional Tory voters over Europe and the UKIP effect will keep them out of power. I can't see Labour forming a majority, its too soon after Gordon Brown and Millipede is useless. LibDems are useless full stop. So what will happen? I most likely to my mind in a vote which I think will set a record in low turnout will be.... A Labour-Lib Dem coalition, in other words the worst of all possibilities! Greens and BNP don't see them capitalising either. Reasonable analysis?
24 September 2012, 05:53 PM
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Rather than bickering over the merits of Party X over Party Y, the OP is asking the community how they think the cards will fall in next election. A possibility that's not been discussed yet is that of the coalition falling apart prematurely.
I can't see the Tories forming a majority, they've annoyed too many traditional Tory voters over Europe and the UKIP effect will keep them out of power. I can't see Labour forming a majority, its too soon after Gordon Brown and Millipede is useless. LibDems are useless full stop. So what will happen? I most likely to my mind in a vote which I think will set a record in low turnout will be.... A Labour-Lib Dem coalition, in other words the worst of all possibilities! Greens and BNP don't see them capitalising either. Reasonable analysis?
I can't see the Tories forming a majority, they've annoyed too many traditional Tory voters over Europe and the UKIP effect will keep them out of power. I can't see Labour forming a majority, its too soon after Gordon Brown and Millipede is useless. LibDems are useless full stop. So what will happen? I most likely to my mind in a vote which I think will set a record in low turnout will be.... A Labour-Lib Dem coalition, in other words the worst of all possibilities! Greens and BNP don't see them capitalising either. Reasonable analysis?
Cameron remains relatively popular compared to the other 2.
My money is on a Tory win, especially if the economy starts to tick
24 September 2012, 06:25 PM
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The overall feeling will be, still dont like the Tories, Labour elected the wrong leader, and the Lib Dems will lose seats. An imaginitive campaign by some minority party may do well. The BNP could do well if they could only get rid of that idiot in charge. Same with UKIP. Non voter friendly leaders.
24 September 2012, 07:41 PM
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Yes. A Tory win could be possible if three things happen
1) The Labour party has Ed Milliband in charge
2) The Lib Dems have Clegg in charge
3) The Tories manage to 'engineer' a mini boom
Since 1) and 2) are a virtual certainty it all hinges on 3) and the Tories may get in with a narrow majority
1) The Labour party has Ed Milliband in charge
2) The Lib Dems have Clegg in charge
3) The Tories manage to 'engineer' a mini boom
Since 1) and 2) are a virtual certainty it all hinges on 3) and the Tories may get in with a narrow majority
24 September 2012, 07:43 PM
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24 September 2012, 07:52 PM
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Straw poll: does ANYONE like Ed *****?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/18440818
Even Ed wants to know: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-turn-off.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/18440818
Even Ed wants to know: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-turn-off.html
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24 September 2012, 08:04 PM
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not just over Europe, the planned re-jigging/relaxing of the planning laws are hitting Tory support in the shires, as is High Speed 2 and the Heathrow extension all of which are predominantly affecting Conservative seats.
24 September 2012, 08:38 PM
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I presume you are playing devil's advocate Hodgy as you are far too intelligent to believe this nonsense.
The world economy changes, this is not the UK govt's fault. It should not however 'reward' people to sit on their backsides and incentivise them to sh9t out more and more kids.
People stow themselves in the cargo hold of a plane for the chance to clean toilets in the UK, are you saying there are no opportunities for the indigenous population to make an honest living??
Or is it that they would rather let hard working families pay for them to have food, shelter, booze and ****?
The world economy changes, this is not the UK govt's fault. It should not however 'reward' people to sit on their backsides and incentivise them to sh9t out more and more kids.
People stow themselves in the cargo hold of a plane for the chance to clean toilets in the UK, are you saying there are no opportunities for the indigenous population to make an honest living??
Or is it that they would rather let hard working families pay for them to have food, shelter, booze and ****?
I have a fundamental belief in that people want to work, (you will always get a small % of wasters in any society)
it is not the natural human condition to sit on ones 4rse all day, after all the desire to better ones self leads people to stow away in the undercarriage of a Boeing 767 (as you rightly point out – and they certainly don’t do it to sit in a cold and damp sh1thole on benefits all day).
It is the duty of any government to incentivise work, whilst providing a safety net – and previous governments have undoubdlety perverted the benefits system
But intersestly most money in benefits goes to the working poor (people who have jobs) – basically subsidising companies paying cr4p wages.
Surely, as a country our aspiration should be decent jobs with decent pay, but I fear we are moving to a low skill, low aspiration economy
25 September 2012, 03:03 PM
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As a matter of interest, do you support our country becoming part of a federated EU?
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25 September 2012, 03:21 PM
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On course for a Labour win, then 10 point lead and a 112 seat majority if there were an election tomorrow
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
25 September 2012, 05:55 PM
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trouble is those mid term polls have very poor correlation with actual elections. I would lay some money against this if you could find a bookie offering good odds on a Labour 112 seat majority for the GE
25 September 2012, 06:00 PM
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FFS we deserve better thean this shower of ***** (Con/Lib/Lab) or do we... maybe a country full of dishonesty and 'I'm alright Jack's has got the politicians it deserves!