RobsyUK

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I'd happily ruin an 18yr old. Personally 16 is too young Lewis. It's not that he can't hold a relationship with a 30 year old, the fact is that they are old, saggy n full of cellulite. Very few are plesently toned. Where as 18, tight pert and hmm inexperienced! Lol

Flame suite on!

Turbohot

Yeah. Most teens are usually (if not by rule) deluded, so the teacher should have acted more sensibly. He has been painted by the media as some fcuked-up Romeo of this century. Apparently he was writing songs about his eloping with that chubby cheeked dimply kid. I think he was acting more like a teenager in love for the first time around. The teacher's father stated to the media that he is a 'very, very nice guy' and they were 'very worried' about him. They were hoping for him not to do 'something stupid' to himself. God knows how much of it is fabricated or what, but I read it on AOL. We already know that its not normal for a teacher to have a relationship with a 15 yr. old pupil and ditch his missus along with his decent job etc. All that poetry making milarky for that kid adds to the possibility that his head hasn't been functioning right. Nothing wrong with writing poerty etc. (its a good thing, actually) but you just don't do it for a 15 yr. old. And, you don't enourage a 15 yo to do a runner with you like that. You have to be a to do that.

GlesgaKiss

That's just silly. Probably more of a man than you'll ever be.

Boro

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Hardly!

It's called innocent until proven guilty. Something that used to stand true. These days you are hung, drawn and quartered by the media and social networks before settings eyes on a judge.

What he did was wrong but just because you don't know the facts doesn't mean you can fill in the gaps with lies or second guesses.

davegtt

Haha, whatever Pete, I held down an 8yr relationship and even had another year giving it a second go after being screwed over financially and mentally. Besides, try finding a nice 30yr old woman that's single, and if you can she's probably more ducked in head than me with a shed load of baggage including other peoples kids, I don't fancy living that life Pete but thanks for your words of wisdom you small minded twit.

Leslie

You have to draw the line somewhere!

Les

Leslie

I think Pete is quite right.

A young girl of that age has not matured and is unlikely to know her own mind accurately.

I believe that it is all wrong for a 30 year old man to take advantage of such a young girl, especially when he is her teacher and as such will have a psychological hold on her. Pete mentions morality and he is right to do so. There seems to be a regrettable move these days towards moral depravity and the results are not pleasant to see. The worry is that as this sort of thing happens the situation gets worse until all sense of decency is lost.

Whatever the girl's actions, I hope that Forrest gets well and truly hammered for his part in this affair. He has behaved with a complete sense of selfishness and lack of consideration for the parents and more importantly the girl herself. It is difficult to imagine how she can rescue her future from what he has done to her.

Les

dpb

We don't even know she didn't buy her own ticket yet Les

DYK

DYK

I haven't followed the story in full.

Not totally defending this guy,but didn't this girl tell her parents she was staying the night at a friends house,and why didn't the parents call the other parents to confirm this.
And it didn't appear as though this guy held a gun to the girls head and forced her on a jolly to france.
I guess you could say the guy is older and should know better,and maybe has a certain influence over a young girl,but it appears to me she was in on it too,and knew exactly what was happening,15/16 year olds know right and wrong.

Leslie

Well she seemed to be influenced easily enough anyway.

Les

EddScott

Have we done the what if it was the other way round question?

Like my earlier post. The lad, to be honest, was 16 and I assume the maths teacher was in her early to mid 20s. She had to leave the school but they stayed together for a bit.

The thing that bothers me more than the age thing is the abuse of position. We employ two 18 year old girls and I wouldn't say no to either but at 35 and their employer then a) they won't be interested anyway (sadly) and b) it wouldn't be appropriate. If I were single and met them whilst out on the weekend then maybe that would be different.

RobsyUK

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Similar thing happened in my secondary school. the teacher at the time was around 25 he was 16. As soon as he left they hooked up for a bit. Now she is a whale

Clarebabes

I'll probably get ripped for this, but I feel a bit sorry for him. On Breakfast this morning, they were talking about her being abducted, but I didn't see him dragging her kicking and screaming. Oh, and by the way, I was a 15-year-old girl once and in love. I thought I was ultra grown up and would have done anything for my boyfriend, (no, not that sort of thing, you pervs!) I did end up running away with an older bloke when I was 17, my parents didn't know where I was, so have some experience of being in love and doing stupid things. He's thrown his professional life away, but must have thought she was worth it. Think more will come out over the next few weeks, but I don't think she was abducted!

DYK

Banish her

Only reports i've read is suspicion of abduction,while i don't condone what this guy had taken part in,the media all seem out to get the digs in on this guy,is he fully to blame though.
The girl lied to the parents for starters,and the parents from what i know,failed to confirm that she actually was staying the night at a friends house,if they had
it wouldn't of gone to this point.
The guy is a teacher so the media are jumping all over it clare,he is the main target in all this.

Turbohot

No, she wasn't abducted IMO. 15-year-old isn't that much of a fool these days. Many 15- year-olds are actually capable of abducting 30 year-olds these days and dumpt them back at their doorstep. I reckon she was an eyelash flutterer, and needs to be grounded for the weekend. Talking love, love is ******* blind. You wanna move the earth, break every boundary, give everything up for love. More so if you are a deluded teen. Therefore the law is there to moderate and older people in professional position must repect that law.

IMO he could have waited until she would have passed her A-Levels and left school. Meanwhile, the coward could have told his own missus that he didn't want to be with her anymore, and could have eventually started his relationship with the dimpled-cheek girl at her 18 or 19 when she would have joined some other college or uni. His missus would have been hurt, but at least she didn't have to put up with a double-crosser which is more of an insult for a woman. But he is also deluded and immature at 30. Now he has fcuked up a few lives with his actions. His family must have felt humiliated for his actions, his missus would have been terribly distraught, and the girl he ran off with has become a laughing stock among her peers. I think this bloke is emotionally vulnerable and can tip over even more; like his father suspects.

Mind you, love is like that. We have all been there where we didn't do things as rationally as we think we could have done. Hence we can't judge other people and call them terrible names. She wasn't 10, she was 15 FFS. Even then, IMO teacher should have acted more responsible and complied with law. He would have done if he thought straight.

An0n0m0us

The way the police and media are on this it's like they won't be happy until the bloke gets life or tops himself Total lack of perspective by both, this guy is not a child molesting rapist, a ******* idiot yes but not a child molesting rapist.

David Lock

It's all just so OTT this story it is effing ridiculous

I heard the Serious Organised Crime Squad, whoever they are, were involved in hunting them down FFS

Mr Forrest - you really messed up big time but I expect you know that. Hope your Mrs takes you back.

Ms Stammers - well good luck kid. Anyway I expect you can get a few bob from The Sun to ease the embarrassment. Oh and I am sure there are better looking guys out there. Take your pick in the 18 - 24 range..

dl

dpb

If they'd left it a year they'd have gotten away with it since we would have dispensed with European arrest warrant

DYK

They are so serious,they would have the SAS running scared

fastmike

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Allow me to restate this

Clarebabes

Hence the reason I feel sorry for him. He's going to get lynched!

stevie boy

dude, how many parents would phone the other parents to confirm their 15 year old will be stopping over, i'd guess single digits for the percentage at the most


spot on

J4CKO

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I think our society is bizarre, we have the papers vilifying a man for sleeping with a 15 year old girl and the same papers want a picture of her knockers the minute she is 16, neither is ok really is it.

As men we are programmed to look at women with a view to procreating, you see breasts and a shapely figure and your primal thing kicks in, that's men, gentlemen have a look and remember their responsibilities to society and decency and they don't **** young girls who are not ready for that, that said some younger women know what they want and are completely able to handle sexual relations and some older men aren't, the law is a best guess, for most eventualities and some relationships will work outside it, but go outside it you risk prosecution, it is pretty simple.

Ill stick to the Milfs myself

finalzero

She needed the attention and he wanted some spark back in his life (which she gave him).

That's not love (maybe there is some of that in it), that's more like lust, a dirty weekend one too many.

I am sure it spiralled out of control for this dude and to say she was all innocent in this matter would be naive.

DYK

Well i find that just crazy,if parents are not checking up on the kids and knowing where they are.If your daughter came to you and said,mom/dad i'm stopping over at a friends house for the night,are you just going to say yea ok and let her walk out the door.
I'd be hold a sec missy,i want the phone number of the friends house you're staying at.
Or i'd take her myself...

pimmo2000

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The older you get, the younger a 16 year old becomes.

I met my wife when she was 14, I was 15 .. I met a friends daughter the other day (I'm 30 now) and she's 15 (at my wedding not some creepy meeting) and my god, she is a child, no ifs or buts she is a kid and it put things into perspective for me.

Up until that point if someone had said would you bang a 16 year old, I probably would have said yes, it's legal, but on meeting someone aged 16, I couldn't .. I didn't find her the least bit sexual.. very odd for me

hodgy0_2

what fvcking rubbish -- and the same attitude that the social services and police used in Rochdale

the same attitude that allowed a group of perverts to systematically rape 13/14/15/16 year old "eyelash flutterers"

ALi-B

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Woman at work does this with her kids (all teenagers). I'd imagine any self-respecting parent would do that.

Caught them out upto no good a number of times too. One indeed her daughter (then 15) going out with a bloke in his late 20's. She went as far as getting dropped off at a freinds for an alledged sleepover and then walking off to her boyfriends....she didn't bank on mum phoning her friend's parents to check up.


Having said all that; I've just looked out the window to see a bunch of seven years old running around without any adult/older supervision. If they let seven year olds to run amuck in the streets, then what hope is there when they are teenagers?

Turbohot

It is not an attitude, it is an observation; not to be taken as a gospel by the social services and police. The reason for that is even more clarifed below for your understanding.

You were using your selective reading skills when you picked out the fragment from my post and commented so negatively on that. I do blame the teacher for not acting responsible. She was a deluded 15, but he was double her age! He could have kept his wits together and ignored her 'eyelash fluttering'. Kids are kids and a lot of teenage kids with physical maturity start to think that they are more than capable to do anything they like. I had eyelash flutterer girls in my school (long time ago; even in 80's like) who fancied their teachers. They were merely 14-15. One even made passes to the P.E. teacher, but her stupidity was ignored by him. We, as her peers thought she was off her head, and she got what she deserved.

I don't feel sorry for the teacher, even when I don't class his act as abducting the girl; although the law would. I do think that the teacher is a bit a Forrest Gump, though. I also worry about other kids who may/may have become victim of his 'vulnerability', or, shall I say, his weird, 'out of control' emotional being. He will have to take every flack that comes his way, including the punishment. Even if the girl instigated the whole thing, you, with your 30 yr-old brain, don't betray trust of the parents, ignore the law and go along with it. Imagine if every older teacher starts p!ssing about with 14-15 year-old girls in schools. Then this society will be more disorderly that what it already is. Therefore, I think the teacher needs a slap and all sorts including his mental examination, but he doesn't need to be taken as a some hypnotising Naag from the Jungle Book. Have you seen his pictures? He is no Tom Cruise from any angle. He just knocks some soppy poetry together on his guitar and looks a bit too 'gentle'.