JTaylor

Who do you think would make the best Prime Minister? You get to choose from any of the 648 MPs in the first instance and should you be feeling all belligerent and rebellious and declare "none" you may select any public figure. Let's see what your judgement is like.

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

I am not voting any more. It makes no difference. They are all the same people just wearing different colour ties.
Every single political speach I hear now just makes my blood boil. And the sad thing is, there are still ***** out there that believe what they hear!

I know not voting may sound like an incredible insult to those who fought for our freedom, but the country they fought for back then, is not the one we have to day.
Corruption is rife, social responsibility is non-existent and the country is bankrupt because of both.

Every man for himself!

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

How do you get to chose exactly?

JTaylor

...and Carter and Clinton and Obama. And nation building takes decades, not months.

pslewis

Cameron cannot, ever, live up to Blair as a statesman ..... Blair gets people paying £500+ for a ticket just to hear his Masters Voice for 20 minutes!

Cameron and Osbourne have their vast wealth from 'Hand-Me-Downs' ..... the working class hand down a School Uniform - the Tory Toffs hand down houses and vast Bank Accounts!

I'm not saying that being an old Etonian should bar you from Office ...... but, it should be a requirement that you have, at least for a period, actually worked for what you have!!

You need to walk a mile in the shoes of those you desire to lead ........ the Tories haven't a clue.

JTaylor

This is a game for Meridian; given his criticism of the PM I'd like to see who he considers would make a decent, qualified and competent leader of this country.

JTaylor

...and the blood of Kings.

ReallyReallyGoodMeat

The same then applies to Labour - I don't think working as an intern for a media company for 6 months really qualifies Ed as having real-world experience!

JTaylor

Lewis sounds like Hazel Blears.

Alan Jeffery

Jeremy Clarkson

PeteBrant

I'm amazed that, given the state the country is in, there are actually peopel out there that thing the most important attribute a PM can have is how he is perceived by Americans.
Maybe the Tories thing the same way, hence the country has double dipped into recession.

TelBoy

Pete why are you so fervently Labour? After Miliband's speech, aren't you ever so slightly embarrassed that he didn't detail one single policy, but instead just trashed Cameron for an hour. Is that a party you're proud to support, come what may, thick or thin?

Martin2005

Tel

Do you seriously expect an opposition, 2 1/2 years from an election to start laying out policy??

Thought you were a man of the world, but that was a fairly naive comment

TelBoy

But all they have is "spend more", unless you know different?

I just don't get how you can be so devoted to a party that has no policies.

PeteBrant

I didnt support them in the last election. I didnt vote for them. My vote went elsewhere.
But this coallition have managed to do the impossible and put us deeper in to recession, and deeper in debt, and at the same time made cuts to public services and raised taxes. We are literally getting the worst of all worlds for no benefit whatsoever.

That's why I don't want the Tories in again.

Martin2005

I didn't think they had even mentioned spend more

Usually oppositions don't win elections, governments lose them. Labour (just as the Tories before them) will look to keep their powder dry until very close to the election.

TelBoy

Ok, that's your opinion, i don't agree with much of it but that's politics. But to repeat, how can you support Labour when you don't even know what they're planning to do?

PeteBrant

Hang on, before we get to the Labour bit, which bit of what I said was opinion?

You don't agree we are in recession? We are.
You don;t agree that Osbourne is borrowing more than he said he would have to? He is
You don't agree with the fact cuts are being made to public services? They are
You don't agree that taxes have risen? They have

None of that is opinion. It's fact.

TelBoy

Well the "coallition have managed to do the impossible and put us deeper in to recession" bit, the fulcrum of your opposition to the Tories, is obviously merely an opinion. If you're so blinkered to believe everything you have stated is a cast iron fact with no other side to the story, then we might as well be talking religion, because you're almost taking it to a religious level. Lots of people do that though, nature of the beast. Blind faith and all that.

Martin2005

The government are having to sail against some pretty strong headwinds though aren't they?

I simply do not believe that Ed ***** would have had any credibility with the City, and we'd be in an even bigger hole right now.

We have to reduce our deficit and we have to grow our economy. But we absolutely cannot afford to have our cost of borrowing increase, which is exactly what would happen if ***** was Chancellor.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Got to agree that the slagging the opposition thing gets right up my nose and they all do it. I watched Clegg on Andrew Marr a few months ago and all he did was answer questions by slagging off Labour - never once said what the coalition were going to do! Useless, the lot of them!

GlesgaKiss

Clegg is a complete tw@t though. Doesn't have an ounce of credibility.

Martin has a point, because it was obvious around election time that the market was pooing itself at the thought of a Labour victory.

JTaylor

And Edward's by the sound of it.

urban

iTrader: (1)

Clegg is a tw@t, as is Cameron, and Miliband needs some kind of speech therapy.

Clegg/Cameron was never going to work in my book

GlesgaKiss

Yes, Edward. He's like the geeky adolescent from a cartoon, isn't he? The only shoes he'll have walked in will be his dad's when he was pretending to be a big boy.

hodgy0_2

so are you saying the opinion bit is around the "possible/impossible" nature of the comment

or the actual "facts" as PeteBrant states them

TelBoy

No the naive assumption that it's the Tory party, and noooooobody else in the world, who have been responsible for putting the country deeper into recession, if indeed we're deeper into recession at all.

If that's not Little England thinking, i don't know what is. Almost American in its introspection.

PeteBrant

Tel, I ask you again - Which bit of what I wrote was opinion?

PeteBrant

Yes. Of thier own making. They made a mistake. They thought the reducing the public sector would mean the private sector would fill it will lots of lovely jobs. It hasn't happened. Its meant that Osbournes plan for recovery is in tatters. He's already had to extend the period by which time borrow halves by 2 years. - He's going to have to extend it again in November.
The deficit isn't getting recued. its getting larger. The economy is shrinking. And yet the Government persist on the same course.

***** couldnt do any worse than this if he tried.

TelBoy

He could, he could spend us to an inflation timebomb.

Or is that not factual enough? I'm getting confused where the boundaries are.