The Trooper 1815

iTrader: (31)

She's 5 as well.

hodgy0_2

What I find shocking is that when asked when did you raise the alarm the answer was "when she did not come back"

Sort of gave the impression the the toddler came and went as she pleased

Just wrong imo

DYK

I remember always playing outside with my mates when i was 8 years old,the summer holidays we would be out at 7am and not come back till about 6pm.The only time we would get chased was if we teased the glue sniffers in the park.
You couldn't do it these days though,things have changed so much over the last 20/30 years.

Funkii Munkii

The suspect has now been arrested on suspicion of murder, expected sadly, makes you think he's done it but isnt co-operating with police

JDM_Stig

iTrader: (3)

when this happens why arent they allowed to use drugs to help get the information out of a suspect, im not talking torture and water boarding but they are a short time scale and a life is depending on it.

David Lock

Certainly attitudes have changed, probably for the better. But I still question whether these awful incidences of abduction etc have increased?

David

Geezer

I would imagine the fact they are arresting him on suspicion of murder, not abduction, says that it's a too late for her life to be saved.

It's not often you arrest someone on suspicion of murder wihtout an actual body, so they must be fairly certain she is already dead.

Very sad.

Geezer

TelBoy

Three more hours till he has to be released. I wonder how many more times he can say "no comment" in that time. If it's him, i hope they find the evidence to nail him completely.

Geezer

If they have arrested him, does the clock not reset? It's a different charge. I haven't the faintest idea, but I would be surprised if they arrested him this morning and had to release him this afternoon?

Geezer

TelBoy

On the Telegrapgh website;

Martin2005

Terrible

Hysteria1983

This situation really is awful, I just hope that she is found.

As much as I love my children to 'play out' there is a difference between that and wandering off, and quite frankly it seems that in this situation she was left in attended with minors who cannot be held responsible for her.

I asked my five year old daughter (who plays in our cul-de-sac) what she would do if a van came into the street and told her to get in. Her response ... "if he looked like grandad it would be ok."
Her reasoning was basically if he looked like grandad, or said he knew grandad it was ok. Of course we had a little chat about that.

It's not rocket science to know that 5 year olds, can be very easily persuaded. No matter how many trees they have climbed, or that the neighbours will watch out for them, they are still at risk.

Of course we still have to allow them to grow and thrive socially, but like I said, there is a big difference between playing out, and this situation that has arisen.

specialx

My point exactly I think there were more kiddy fiddlers back then than there is now as years ago people didn't talk about it as much and even worse didn't believe kids when they had courage to speak up! we now have advances in DNA and also the media wasn't as well connected nationally as it is now.

Think Mira Hindley, fred west etc this is not a new thing at all.

I think it's the right thing to educate and be aware of these kind of things but not live in fear that your children will become victims if you let them out of your sight for more than a minute!

luckily these cases are very rare.

DYK

Also the days that have passed now and still not found her,more days that go by,the chances of finding her alive are slim,plus the girl has an illness which she needs medication for.I guess after a certain amount of time has passed it changes everything.

Leslie

I see he has now been charged with her murder.

Yet another good reason for consideration of re-introducing the death penalty.

Les

dirtybarry

Where is the body ?

Midlife......

iTrader: (2)

Don't need to have a body to be charged and convicted of murder.........

That was the downfall of the acid bath murderer (John George Haigh)

Shaun

RobsyUK

iTrader: (2)

But don't they need some evidence to charge him with anything? If they have some how comes it's been kept quiet.

hodgy0_2

are you an idiot

so we put people to death because they are simply charged with something

we fought two world wars to be protected from people like you

boxst

I'm amazed that he hasn't 'cracked' after being in custody for so long. If the Police have evidence (and lets hope it is forensic rather than circumstantial) then he doesn't achieve much by not telling them where the body is.

(not as amazed that someone would actually do this of course)

Boro

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Something doesn't add up with all of this. Not sure why, but it all feels a bit too easy.

dirtybarry

+ 1

David Lock

If her DNA was all over his vehicle I guess he could just claim that she had been in the vehicle before as she was a close neighbour?

I suppose some sort of weapon with her blood on would be pretty damning.

How can there be a jury that isn't biased?

dl

J4CKO

iTrader: (1)

Yeah, I feel like this, Bridger has been Charged with murder so they must be sure but without a body it is difficult to really call it closed, as has been said, your average bloke is not really that good under interogation, we all think we are but having worked with some proper hard *******, no messing Coppers they make your average lawyer look like they are playing, one guy at the Police was going to lie to one on a specific matter he had got involved in, he lasted about a minute beofre singing like a bird, it is what they do, ok career criminals can resist to an extent but make no mistake they dont mess about.

Bridger doesnt have that air of menace about him, he hasnt got any form, well I havent read about any and ok, that doesnt mean he doesnt or didnt do this but it isnt adding up, he was a firend of the family and I know that is how these things usually pan out but why now ?

I was wondering if he had hit her with his car and paniced or something ?

Leslie

I think you need to look to your own character.

You have not even understood why I wrote that, I really cannot be bothered to explain myself to the likes of you anyway. Just try thinking about it-it might work!

Allow me to remind you that I spent many years at risk working in a particularly positive fashion to prevent the chances of World War 3!

Les

Carlh

So has anyone came forward with why they are charging him or any evidence at all?

I feel like its been a big secret and we're not even going to know for months why they arrested him. What I dont understand is, that if he DID do it, surely he would want a massively reduced sentence for telling them where the little girl is? Seems odd that he's holding out. Im just not convinved they have the right man. The police have ONLY checked a COUPLE of houses. If they were to do a door-to-door search, they might have found her.... like the murder a few months ago of the kid who didnt come home and found her in the parents house stuffed into a black bin bag in a cupboard.

Philpotts trial coming up in January too folks, though im surprised either of them have lived this long without attempting suicide or getting attacked.

The judge will most likely say that the parents made a terrible mistake and that they have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Will probably give them 15 years between them and a new identity (with new house) when they're out.

I hope we see some justice as this country just keeps winding me up !

TelBoy

Massively reduced sentence? Sorry? This guy is going inside for life if he did it, whether he tells them where she is or not. You know that, right?

hodgy0_2

simply explain, in the context of the DP debate, why charging him has any relevance - re-read your post if it helps, fvckit i will copy it below

"I see he has now been charged with her murder.

Yet another good reason for consideration of re-introducing the death penalty."


do you want to hang people because they simply have been charged with something

is due process just a frustrating sideshow on the way to the gallows

Martin2005

I'm eagerly awaiting the usual Leslie bluster

Mouser

The crowd outside Aberystwyth Court seem to have made up their mind as to whether Mark Bridger is guilty or not.