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Old 11 October 2014, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Malala has Canadian and UK citizenship at least IIRC , family have been given UK citizenship.......

Don't think tax is payable, like winning the lottery.

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She has honary Canadian citizenhip which is just symbolic. I didn't know she was a UK citizen yet. No doubt she would be fast tracked of course....
Old 11 October 2014, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
She's just a kid who we have made made into a mascot, no worse than that, we've build a weird cult around her.

Nothing against her per se, I'm fairly indifferent to her, she certainly doesn't say anything interesting or especially insightful, just bien pensant feel good platitudes.
I honour your forthright and honest opinion. But she's only 17, not 36! She may not say anything interesting or insightful, but what about her actions?? There're plenty of people that talk 'interesting' and 'insightful' all day long, but in action, they do **** all with that. Easy to spout 'insightful' talk-the-talk, I'd rather credit the ones that bring those insightful talks to action / perform with least 'insightful' words and more 'insightful' actions. Going around campaigning bravely with a bullet in her head for something that the irrational ones from her community can shoot her down again is quite an action.
Old 11 October 2014, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
You make a very valid point, without googling, who here knows who Kailash Satyarthi is?

+1

See my posy earlier, as I said she was JOINT winner. Kailash has spent a lifetime is pursuit of a noble cause.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Put it into BTL I'd imagine. Allegedly her Dad is buying a BTL empire for her here.


If you work hard and keep your head down hopefully one day you'll be able to rent a property from this teenage Pakistani girl.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
I honour your forthright and honest opinion. But she's only 17, not 36! She may not say anything interesting or insightful, but what about her actions?? There're plenty of people that talk 'interesting' and 'insightful' all day long, but in action, they do **** all with that. Easy to spout 'insightful' talk-the-talk, I'd rather credit the ones that bring those insightful talks to action / perform with least 'insightful' words and more 'insightful' actions. Going around campaigning bravely with a bullet in her head for something that the irrational ones from her community can shoot her down again is quite an action.
Admirable perhaps, although she is 1000's of miles away now in the UK, but brave people put themselves at risk all the time, for example Alan Henning went to Syria to help kids and got his head cut off.

I suppose I just find the beatification/idolatry a bit weird, the way we worship the innocence of children too. Perhaps to make up for our own cynicism.
Old 12 October 2014, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Admirable perhaps, although she is 1000's of miles away now in the UK, but brave people put themselves at risk all the time, for example Alan Henning went to Syria to help kids and got his head cut off.
I agree that some are very fortunate to get such prizes, and yes, there're many unsung heroes knocking about in this world that also deserve a Nobel Prize each.

I suppose I just find the beatification/idolatry a bit weird, the way we worship the innocence of children too. Perhaps to make up for our own cynicism.

LOL you yourself sound like a cynical old fart with your usual, third angle perspective. When everyone's cheering, you have to come in and deflate the celebration with your grump. My great granddad was like that.

In all seriousness, it's refreshing to have your third angle to things. Spanner for argument to some, but food for thought for some. In one word- 'interesting'.
Old 12 October 2014, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
If you work hard and keep your head down hopefully one day you'll be able to rent a property from this teenage Pakistani girl.
Old 12 October 2014, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
If you work hard and keep your head down hopefully one day you'll be able to rent a property from this teenage Pakistani girl.
What's her being Pakistani got to do with it?
Old 13 October 2014, 11:04 AM
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Typical Daily Mail readers
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Originally Posted by jonc
Typical Daily Mail readers
Almost certainly UKIP supporters too
Old 13 October 2014, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Almost certainly UKIP supporters too
If they were nationalists or patriots of any depth and reasonably far-sighted they'd recognise that Malala's Nobel Prize and her residency in and support from the UK is in this country's interests. Cynical, I know, but that's the realpolitik. That aside, I'm reminded of the notion that if one educates a women, one educates a nation; for me Malala is the embodiment of that idea.

It'll be interesting to witness her career over the coming decades and I pray that her God is kind to her.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
If they were nationalists or patriots of any depth and reasonably far-sighted they'd recognise that Malala's Nobel Prize and her residency in and support from the UK is in this country's interests. Cynical, I know, but that's the realpolitik. That aside, I'm reminded of the notion that if one educates a women, one educates a nation; for me Malala is the embodiment of that idea.

It'll be interesting to witness her career over the coming decades and I pray that her God is kind to her.
Couldn't agree more
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Well done, Malala.


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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inte...dary_Education
Old 21 August 2015, 06:36 PM
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Makes sense.
Old 21 August 2015, 06:55 PM
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Yes, well done to Malala for her super achievement, and well done to all other kids of the UK who couldn't get fantastic grades for one reason or other. Don't lose heart and keep going.
Old 22 August 2015, 09:16 AM
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But if youve got it youve got it .
Old 22 August 2015, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
But if youve got it youve got it .
Academic results aren't the sole indicator of one having 'it' to its full. Sometimes you've got more than 'it' but you couldn't use it due to external disturbances or internal turmoil caused by whatever, and therefore you needn't feel disheartened. Yes, Malala had a bullet in her head and she could still do A*s and As, very inspiring. Bear in mind that her Asian mindset/background retains the drive for excelling academically. but there're some very bright British kids with many invisible bullets in their heads and their hearts.

A lot of them do have 'it', but it gets messy with all that going on. Spare them and do not judge their intelligence with their academic performance alone. Intelligence isn't just about writing big essays and getting good results. It comes in different forms.

Some who don't have 'it' in abundance may have some of some rare 'that'. No one is a write off or a small because he/she didn't manage to get top grades in school or couldn't get them no matter how hard they worked. Intelligence manifests in many other ways, not just in As and Bs reflections.

Just on academics, Sir baby face Brian *** didn't do that well in school either, but look at him now.

By the way, everyone seems to do better at GCSEs, not that big deal imo. My daughter hardly studied during her year 11, and ended up getting top grades in all her GCSEs. A levels and onwards are the ones one needs to watch out.
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Everyone has talent. What is rare is the courage to follow the talent to the dark place where it leads.

ERICA JONG
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Quite rare. Equally.
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Yes, well done Malala, great results

It also backs up my deeply held view that most people are capable of amazing things - given the chance and opportunity

And sad to think so many of the world population have very little of either - what a loss to mankind
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Originally Posted by Turbohot


Quite rare. Equally.

Sums me up nicely

...Or to be more precise - Jack of all trades; Master of none

4 Cs
4 Bs
1 A*

The A* was a fluke; It didn't stop me wasting ten years in the deluding thinking that I was actually good at something

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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Yes, well done Malala, great results

It also backs up my deeply held view that most people are capable of amazing things - given the chance and opportunity

And sad to think so many of the world population have very little of either - what a loss to mankind

There are plenty of people who have both the chance and the opportunity but are too idle to do anything about it. They'd rather watch stupid soaps or get drunk.
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Sums me up nicely

...Or to be more precise - Jack of all trades; Master of none

4 Cs
4 Bs
1 A*

The A* was a fluke; It didn't stop me wasting ten years in the deluding thinking that I was actually good at something



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Originally Posted by Paben
There are plenty of people who have both the chance and the opportunity but are too idle to do anything about it. They'd rather watch stupid soaps or get drunk.
Sure I get that - you will always have freeloading chancers, in every society/country

But that does not explain the fact that in the UK a child's chances in life are, by and large, determined by the postcode they live are born/live in

Now you can explain that by conferring some mythical powers on postcodes - or imagine that something else is a factor
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Sure I get that - you will always have freeloading chancers, in every society/country

But that does not explain the fact that in the UK a child's chances in life are, by and large, determined by the postcode they live are born/live in

Now you can explain that by conferring some mythical powers on postcodes - or imagine that something else is a factor
Which is?
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Systemic inequality, Lack of opportunity, lack of education , lack of investment, - the cards of life (sometimes subtly) stacked against them
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Systemic inequality, Lack of opportunity, lack of education , lack of investment, - the cards of life (sometimes subtly) stacked against them
Wow, you mean we don't live in a meritocracy?
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