Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

Sti 2.5 ECU and pistons

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 18 October 2012 | 07:41 PM
  #31  
john banks's Avatar
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 1
From: 32 cylinders and many cats
Default

Buying, selling and modifying carefully can mean you can have a lot more fun for a lot less cash and heartache though.
Old 18 October 2012 | 07:55 PM
  #32  
Matt grb sti's Avatar
Matt grb sti
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Pembrokeshire
Default

Originally Posted by john banks
Buying, selling and modifying carefully can mean you can have a lot more fun for a lot less cash and heartache though.
So what impreza do you drive then john?? and what power and how much did it cost you??
Old 18 October 2012 | 08:20 PM
  #33  
john banks's Avatar
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 1
From: 32 cylinders and many cats
Default

This week it has been pouring with rain and the farmers are covering the roads with mud, so I have been driving an almost 9 year old Legacy 3.0R on mud and snow tyres. It probably still has about 241 BHP and cost me £5k a few years ago with 35000 miles in excellent condition. I put 95 RON in it - the cheapest I can find I have modified the headlight bulbs.
Old 18 October 2012 | 09:16 PM
  #34  
Matt grb sti's Avatar
Matt grb sti
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Pembrokeshire
Default

Originally Posted by john banks
This week it has been pouring with rain and the farmers are covering the roads with mud, so I have been driving an almost 9 year old Legacy 3.0R on mud and snow tyres. It probably still has about 241 BHP and cost me £5k a few years ago with 35000 miles in excellent condition. I put 95 RON in it - the cheapest I can find I have modified the headlight bulbs.
And there was me thinking you worked for api or engine tunner with u knowledge of subaru's how wrong could i have been
Old 18 October 2012 | 09:43 PM
  #35  
Alan Jeffery's Avatar
Alan Jeffery
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,662
Likes: 0
From: Enginetuner.co.uk Plymouth Dyno Dynamics RR Engine machining and building EcuTek SimTek mapping
Default

Originally Posted by Matt grb sti
Im new to this i really appreciate the feedback from everyone espically the professionals opinion but i think everyone agree all performance cars aint good value for money or a wise investment the only reason we buy them and have to tunned is passion for love of fast cars
Can't argue with that, and it's safe to say I've never pretended otherwise!
I've spent endless amounts on motorsport, various pointless road cars, Lambrettas, high maintenance females and booze.
I wasted the rest.
Old 18 October 2012 | 10:18 PM
  #36  
Alan Jeffery's Avatar
Alan Jeffery
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,662
Likes: 0
From: Enginetuner.co.uk Plymouth Dyno Dynamics RR Engine machining and building EcuTek SimTek mapping
Default

Originally Posted by Matt grb sti
Hey guys running a standrad sti 2.5 at mo gunna star put some money in to it wondering has anyone used the sivec ecu or simtec?? and how much to fit new pistons all in cause my cadburys ones aint gunna last obviously with exhuast and mapping usual stuff??
Getting back to the OP's point of interest!
We would use the OE ECU, mapping with Ecutek Race Rom.

A few pictures of a customer's Hatch, due for collection tomorrow.
Engine work, as in forged pistons, rods, ACL bearings, RCM oil pump, ARP studs, Cosworth head gaskets, full engine balance, heads overhauled etc. etc.













And the finished product.

Old 18 October 2012 | 10:36 PM
  #37  
Matt grb sti's Avatar
Matt grb sti
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
From: Pembrokeshire
Default

Very nice thank u alan loving carbon goodies the air scoop and covers and what not gotta get me some of them, looks very tidy
Old 19 October 2012 | 01:45 PM
  #38  
APIDavid's Avatar
APIDavid
Former Sponsor
South Wales Scoobys
Essex Subaru Owners Club Badge
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 6,377
Likes: 3
From: @Junc 12, M40 Warwicksh; 01926 614522 CV33 9PL -Use 9GX for Satnav. South Mids Alcatek ECu dealer
Default

Great advert Alan, I won't post our pics up I don't want to embarrass you.
Old 19 October 2012 | 01:58 PM
  #39  
john banks's Avatar
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 1
From: 32 cylinders and many cats
Default

Originally Posted by Matt grb sti
And there was me thinking you worked for api or engine tunner with u knowledge of subaru's how wrong could i have been
I used to map Subarus professionally and did a lot of EJ257 limit finding when the engine first arrived (I kept blowing them up in other words), then did ECU reverse engineering open source for Evos, then the same for Cobb Tuning for the R35 GTR. I'm not presently working in the automotive industry.

I'm not an engine builder, my interest is ECUs - reverse engineering, rewriting code, teaching others to tune. So I dislike engines that don't make my tuning look good. The EJ257 is the only one that does that.

Last edited by john banks; 19 October 2012 at 02:02 PM.
Old 19 October 2012 | 02:01 PM
  #40  
john banks's Avatar
john banks
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 18,658
Likes: 1
From: 32 cylinders and many cats
Default

Nice pics Alan.
Old 19 October 2012 | 08:24 PM
  #41  
Alan Jeffery's Avatar
Alan Jeffery
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,662
Likes: 0
From: Enginetuner.co.uk Plymouth Dyno Dynamics RR Engine machining and building EcuTek SimTek mapping
Default

Originally Posted by APIDavid
Great advert Alan, I won't post our pics up I don't want to embarrass you.
Dammit, you caught me out..
Old 19 October 2012 | 08:37 PM
  #42  
Alan Jeffery's Avatar
Alan Jeffery
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,662
Likes: 0
From: Enginetuner.co.uk Plymouth Dyno Dynamics RR Engine machining and building EcuTek SimTek mapping
Default

Originally Posted by APIDavid
A highly stressed 2.5 running close to or over 500 hp will have a reduced life and no matter whose kit you use, the internal engine dynamics are the reason. Apart from the previously mentioned crankcase flex problem.

The Subaru EJ257 is massively ' oversquare ' meaning that the bore is much greater than the stroke length and whilst that is not uncommon in many modern engines, there is a ratio that it is unadviseable to exceed. Piston speed, and piston crown loading come into play and in simplistic terms that is why " a 2.5 won't rev " That is an overstatement, but they are less than happy at over 7000 rpm and will start to creat all sorts of other stresses that leads to engine life expectancy being shortened.

AND of course when you see the dyno traces, there is no need to rev its brains out, as the torque and power curves are long since on the downslope.

Above 7000 on a 2.5 all you are doing is making a lot of noise and wearing out a whole bunch of parts inefficiently.

Yes, and er, no really..



We built that 2.5 four years ago, (featured May '08 in Japanese Performance) and he's still hammering it about!

Having said that, I agree that there are other routes, and we most often take those instead.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Car Parts For Sale
1
18 November 2015 08:49 AM




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:15 AM.