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Old 19 October 2012, 03:38 PM
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Facebook are selling phones and computers now? I missed that one but at least they didn’t have to think too hard what to call their laptops
Old 20 October 2012, 09:57 AM
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No Facebook aren't selling phones. Jack thought the Facebook IPO would be the next big thing and turns out it was big mistake instead. Google's stock dropped 8% recently, their annual results were released by mistake but still nothing like Apple's drop with the release of the iPhone 5.
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No Facebook aren't selling phones. Jack thought the Facebook IPO would be the next big thing and turns out it was big mistake instead. Google's stock dropped 8% recently, their annual results were released by mistake but still nothing like Apple's drop with the release of the iPhone 5.
Are you referring to this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercoh...-manage-apple/
($30bn mistake by Apple)

If so, then have a read of the "Jackass of the week" posting on JG's blog here:
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/october

Specifically I am referring to this bit:
With a market cap over $600 billion, any change in stock price, even just a few percentage points, is going to amount to a change in market cap of tens of billions of dollars.

So yes, there was a stock drop, as there usually is when a new iPhone or iPad comes out, but it's not as massive as it may sound.
Old 20 October 2012, 07:49 PM
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FFS - Do people actually live in reality around here!

Do you really think that the general consumer gives a rats *** about what is going with Apple and a n other commercially. It makes no difference to the fact (like it or not) that Apple products have been and still are desirable.

Ask some good looking chap with some georgous looking bird, who will both surely own an iPhone, whether or not they are aware of the Samsung vs Apple ****fest. Watch them look at you and think you're a proper ****, as they think about how they're going to bang the back doors out of each other later on that evening!
Old 21 October 2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
FFS - Do people actually live in reality around here!

Do you really think that the general consumer gives a rats *** about what is going with Apple and a n other commercially. It makes no difference to the fact (like it or not) that Apple products have been and still are desirable.

Ask some good looking chap with some georgous looking bird, who will both surely own an iPhone, whether or not they are aware of the Samsung vs Apple ****fest. Watch them look at you and think you're a proper ****, as they think about how they're going to bang the back doors out of each other later on that evening!
Shaun, that sort of rational, real world response has no place in this thread

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Old 21 October 2012, 01:38 PM
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The Apple vs Android arguments could just as easily have been:

C64 vs Spectrum
Amiga vs Atari 520
Dreamcast vs Playstation
VHS vs Betamax
ad infinitum

The only real argument here is who needs approval of what they have purchased, and what is best is what's best for you.

Buying an Android is like buying a Skoda instead of a VW. Both perform admirably but one has a better resale value and image.

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Old 21 October 2012, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Shaun, that sort of rational, real world response has no place in this thread

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Please accept my humble apologies for being so flaming stupid!
Old 21 October 2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Galifrey
Buying an Android is like buying a Skoda instead of a VW. Both perform admirably but one has a better resale value and image.
That analogy is just so wrong.

Skoda and VW are the same manufacturer underneath. iOS and Android and totally different.
Old 21 October 2012, 04:12 PM
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iPhone is like a 911, subtle changes over the years, highly desirable and reassuringly expensive. Android phones are cheap and more often than not come from Korea like Kia and Hyundai.
Old 21 October 2012, 04:41 PM
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Lol.

iPhone is now Porsche? Get real. Parts made in Far East and assembled in China? Sounds more like a Fukang. But wait, designed in America? So more like a Corvette? Looks good but made of flimsy plastic, pretty quick but can't corner...

Wait.

Confused myself now.

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Old 21 October 2012, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
iPhone is like a 911, subtle changes over the years, highly desirable and reassuringly expensive. Android phones are cheap and more often than not come from Korea like Kia and Hyundai.
911's made in china

Saying that they probably do a good copy..........
Old 21 October 2012, 05:30 PM
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The steel in a 911 more than likely does come from China. And let's not forget that the designer of the iPhone is Knight of the Realm not someone called **** who's good at photoshop.
Old 21 October 2012, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
That analogy is just so wrong.

Skoda and VW are the same manufacturer underneath. iOS and Android and totally different.
But who makes the hardware/components for apple?

Shame you failed to actually think that through
Old 21 October 2012, 07:44 PM
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Im aware who makes the hardware! Lol you referred to android, which if I'm not mistaken is an OS last time I looked!
Old 21 October 2012, 08:13 PM
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Samsung make a few chips, that's all. The phone is constructed by Foxconn who also make Samsung products.
Old 21 October 2012, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
iPhone is like a 911, subtle changes over the years, highly desirable and reassuringly expensive. Android phones are cheap and more often than not come from Korea like Kia and Hyundai.
It's nothing like a 911, it's German designed and built. The iPhone is British designed and built in China, so more accurately it is more like one of these:

Old 21 October 2012, 10:27 PM
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Old 22 October 2012, 12:07 AM
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Egads!
Old 22 October 2012, 10:54 AM
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Are we still moaning about which mobile phone is better?

Nothing beats my old 3210!
Old 22 October 2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
iPhone is like a 911, subtle changes over the years, highly desirable and reassuringly expensive. Android phones are cheap and more often than not come from Korea like Kia and Hyundai.
So the iPhone is an outdated design that they have tried to make modern.

Also, a 911 massively outperforms a Kia or Hyundai, whereas an iPhone does not massively outperform the Android stuff, so you couldn't have picked a worse analogy really.

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Old 22 October 2012, 02:37 PM
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Are you saying a 911 is a **** design. Also look at graphics performance, iOS trounces Android.
Old 22 October 2012, 08:08 PM
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Bringing the thread back on track. Who's been to the Apple web site lately? And who's going to go when the Samsung ad is placed?

Those who just can't help but look might be drawn under by the Apple marketing voodoo.
Old 23 October 2012, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
iPhone is like a 911, subtle changes over the years, highly desirable and reassuringly expensive. Android phones are cheap and more often than not come from Korea like Kia and Hyundai.

Android is an OS .. iPhone is a model of phone .. if you installed Android on an iPhone would your head implode ?
Old 23 October 2012, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Android is an OS .. iPhone is a model of phone .. if you installed Android on an iPhone would your head implode ?
If I say iPhone, you know it's running iOS, if I say iOS then I may be referring to the iPad or iPhone version of iOS. It's quite simple with Apple products.
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Are you saying a 911 is a **** design. Also look at graphics performance, iOS trounces Android.
The 911 is not a good design but Porsche persevered and modern technology has allowed them to make it workable. Ask any old 911 owner who ended up in a hedge backwards

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Look at the original iPhone, it was a good design and Apple have persevered with it. As an original iPhone owner I never went threw a hedge backwards but I did pull my hair out a couple of times.
Old 23 October 2012, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
If I say iPhone, you know it's running iOS, if I say iOS then I may be referring to the iPad or iPhone version of iOS. It's quite simple with apple products.
Just like their owners
Old 23 October 2012, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
If I say iPhone, you know it's running iOS, if I say iOS then I may be referring to the iPad or iPhone version of iOS. It's quite simple with Apple products.

The phrase is "locked down"
Old 23 October 2012, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
The phrase is "locked down"
I'll take locked down over vulnerable any day. Android is the target market for Malware that people thought OSX would be.
Old 24 October 2012, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Im aware who makes the hardware! Lol you referred to android, which if I'm not mistaken is an OS last time I looked!
Android as a class of device, didn't realise we were being that obtuse today, but anyone who nitpicks an analogy is always gonna take pedantry to whole new level
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