Chest pain .. what now ??
21 October 2012, 11:28 PM
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I am surviving Cheers, as the CRY charity is doing there needs to be more Cardiac Screening done in the young, they say at least 12 people under 35 die in the UK from undiagnosed heart conditions. Scary
http://www.c-r-y.org.uk/
Yes afraid it was me, it will be four weeks on Tuesday. The Coroner put this as the cause of death:
A) Congenital Coarcation of the Aorta
B) Ruptured Aortic Aneurysm
C)Haemopericadium Cardiac Tamponade.
She was in a clinic when it happened just after a blood test.
http://www.c-r-y.org.uk/
A) Congenital Coarcation of the Aorta
B) Ruptured Aortic Aneurysm
C)Haemopericadium Cardiac Tamponade.
She was in a clinic when it happened just after a blood test.
22 October 2012, 12:43 AM
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Les has hit the nail on the head.. I have pain .. pain means something is wrong .. pain triggered by food suggests its not all in my head .. so what is being damaged to cause the pain ?
Add this is with the poor fella who lost his g/f and you have a reason to keep looking ..
We don't know, go live with it is a poor response from any doctor. It's easier for someone who doesn't have to experience it to dismiss it.
Add this is with the poor fella who lost his g/f and you have a reason to keep looking ..
We don't know, go live with it is a poor response from any doctor. It's easier for someone who doesn't have to experience it to dismiss it.
If this is the case, then as previously suggested, keep a food diary and hope you see a common theme. If you do, then the easy solution is to cut out all those foods and hopefully the problem is resolved. If you are odd like me, you may not be so lucky, but fingers crossed....Could it be worth asking if you could be referred to a dietician or suchlike to see if they could help? Probably worth doing the diary on run up to that as they'll only ask you to do one anyway.
The fact you are worried about all of this may well not be helping either, stress and worry can aggravate physical conditions. Go back to your GP an voice your concerns, if they are absolutely sure they have ruled out anything life threatening, go down the route of the above/ask to see a dietician.
I may have missed this in previous threads, but have you actually seen a gastroenterologist or specialist of some kind?
22 October 2012, 07:09 AM
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Could it be nerve, muscle or tissue related? I have had similar pains recently, in fact I wondered if I had the on set of heart problems (due to get a big health test done soon).
I have started to get pains in a spot on my back behind my heart, related to a tightness of the chest on the left side but like you, I am very active, healthy, have regularly pushed my heart and not been concerned about anything.
Then someone suggested it could be a trapped nerve further up, pain usually is an indicator of a problem on the actual area or further back (or forward) somewhere. Could be you pinched something one day and it's caused these problems now.
As Les stated, get it checked, it will only get worse at best give you a troublesome life.
I have started to get pains in a spot on my back behind my heart, related to a tightness of the chest on the left side but like you, I am very active, healthy, have regularly pushed my heart and not been concerned about anything.
Then someone suggested it could be a trapped nerve further up, pain usually is an indicator of a problem on the actual area or further back (or forward) somewhere. Could be you pinched something one day and it's caused these problems now.
As Les stated, get it checked, it will only get worse at best give you a troublesome life.
I'd get it checked again. I went through pretty much the same stuff and got more worried about it as no one seemed to help. I'm not saying this is it but sounds very similar.
Four years later? Tear in a muscle in my diaphragm that kept tearing through exercise was the final thing. Eating usually brought the pain though, not exercise, which was the big distraction.
After three months of only very light exercise and eating normally, I eased into exercise again and everything was fine. Nine years later all is still well.
Not saying that is it, but just an idea.
Four years later? Tear in a muscle in my diaphragm that kept tearing through exercise was the final thing. Eating usually brought the pain though, not exercise, which was the big distraction.
After three months of only very light exercise and eating normally, I eased into exercise again and everything was fine. Nine years later all is still well.
Not saying that is it, but just an idea.
No, it most likely isn't in your head, just like I'd say about myself. Thing is, there may never be a very straight answer. You have IBS and it sounds to me like reflux as well (non medical opinion I must add), so a sensitive stomach/gut. This may be something you do have to live with, with or without the help of medication. If you find the meds you take give relief or even lessen attacks (maybe stop taking them for a while to see if you notice an increase) then it would seem likely, your problem is with your stomach, not something perhaps more serious for want of a better phrase.
If this is the case, then as previously suggested, keep a food diary and hope you see a common theme. If you do, then the easy solution is to cut out all those foods and hopefully the problem is resolved. If you are odd like me, you may not be so lucky, but fingers crossed....Could it be worth asking if you could be referred to a dietician or suchlike to see if they could help? Probably worth doing the diary on run up to that as they'll only ask you to do one anyway.
The fact you are worried about all of this may well not be helping either, stress and worry can aggravate physical conditions. Go back to your GP an voice your concerns, if they are absolutely sure they have ruled out anything life threatening, go down the route of the above/ask to see a dietician.
I may have missed this in previous threads, but have you actually seen a gastroenterologist or specialist of some kind?
If this is the case, then as previously suggested, keep a food diary and hope you see a common theme. If you do, then the easy solution is to cut out all those foods and hopefully the problem is resolved. If you are odd like me, you may not be so lucky, but fingers crossed....Could it be worth asking if you could be referred to a dietician or suchlike to see if they could help? Probably worth doing the diary on run up to that as they'll only ask you to do one anyway.
The fact you are worried about all of this may well not be helping either, stress and worry can aggravate physical conditions. Go back to your GP an voice your concerns, if they are absolutely sure they have ruled out anything life threatening, go down the route of the above/ask to see a dietician.
I may have missed this in previous threads, but have you actually seen a gastroenterologist or specialist of some kind?
Dietician sounds like an idea .. I've asked about this before and been brushed off .. can I see one on Bupa do you think ?
22 October 2012, 07:14 AM
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If I had constant pain, then yes I'd be more inclined to believe it should be treated through other means, but for me to have attacks and to get aches which appear to be reduced with medication ?
I'm not saying it's not in my head, to be honest that's a good place for it to be, as it wont be causing me any harm (physically).
I'm open to the idea that my body is too sensitive and in fact there is nothing wrong, so I'm happy to try these pills the consultant has prescribed. I've also tried hypnotherapy but at £60 an hour after 5 sessions I didn't feel any different and couldn't afford any more.
I'm not a medically demanding person, I don't expect miracles, but at 15 I was told I have to live with the pain and constant (and I mean constant) need to go the loo with my IBS, for the rest of my life and I have done this, I've worked around it. I was kinda hoping science would win out on this one for me.
22 October 2012, 03:21 PM
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If you do not know positively what is causing the pain then you should not be forced to live with it,especially when it may be another cause that you don't know about.
I think you should insist to your doctor that you are not happy about it and I think at the very least that you should have an endoscopy so that they can actually look at the area which is affected.
It is just not safe to live with an assumption!
Les
I think you should insist to your doctor that you are not happy about it and I think at the very least that you should have an endoscopy so that they can actually look at the area which is affected.
It is just not safe to live with an assumption!
Les
22 October 2012, 05:16 PM
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If you do not know positively what is causing the pain then you should not be forced to live with it,especially when it may be another cause that you don't know about.
I think you should insist to your doctor that you are not happy about it and I think at the very least that you should have an endoscopy so that they can actually look at the area which is affected.
It is just not safe to live with an assumption!
Les
I think you should insist to your doctor that you are not happy about it and I think at the very least that you should have an endoscopy so that they can actually look at the area which is affected.
It is just not safe to live with an assumption!
Les
22 October 2012, 05:59 PM
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Functional dyspepsia sounds most likely, but it isn't impossible you could have hypercalcaemia from "taking cheap Tesco calcium based antacids daily".
22 October 2012, 06:11 PM
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have you been checked over by a osteopath, i only ask as everytime i put my back out i get cronic gut ache at the bottom of my ribs in the middle , one visit later clicky click and all is well again, osteopath said it was quite likely my stomach musles tightening to stop further injury was causing the indegestion/heart burn sensation 
22 October 2012, 07:55 PM
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Before going down that route, it may be worth having another word with your GP. Do you always deal with the same doctor, and if so, is there not another you could get an appointment with to see if you get any more joy with them?
22 October 2012, 09:37 PM
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Pimmo, a few years back I used to get terrible reflux, used to double me over and manifest itself as chest pain, burning, bloating, burping and generally being miserable, my doctor was useless, telling me to not drink, not eat spicy food, lose weight, exercise, sleep on an angle, take antacids, right miserable old bitch she was, no help.
Anyway, I went back a year or so later as it was no better, had tried everything and was dreading the assault on my lifestyle (which wasnt that bad) but I got a different doctor, an older chap, much fatter than me, red face and very friendly, he examined me and I had a test for a stomach bug called "Heliocobacter Pylori", he gave me what looked like enough antibiotics to treat a horse and said to come back in a month, I went back and I was cured of it, it had ruled my life for years, I couldn't eat certain stuff and sometimes dry bread would set it off, I could understand a bit of stomach trouble after a Vindaloo and ten pints but this was for no reason and much worse.
So, I still get occasional indegestion and a bit of acid but it is down to me being stupid, not eating dry bread, Omzaperole can help if you have over indulged and did a little before but get checked for this, I used to get trapped air, felt like it was around my heart, probably wasnt but dont think we can accurately place pain internally so well.
Not saying this is your issue but sometimes I used to get chest pains like you describe, they went after the acid had been dealt with, I suspect my gastric tract was red raw from all the acid, I used to burp and it made me want to cry, was like being punched, when it subsided, I used to get the pains.
Anyway, I went back a year or so later as it was no better, had tried everything and was dreading the assault on my lifestyle (which wasnt that bad) but I got a different doctor, an older chap, much fatter than me, red face and very friendly, he examined me and I had a test for a stomach bug called "Heliocobacter Pylori", he gave me what looked like enough antibiotics to treat a horse and said to come back in a month, I went back and I was cured of it, it had ruled my life for years, I couldn't eat certain stuff and sometimes dry bread would set it off, I could understand a bit of stomach trouble after a Vindaloo and ten pints but this was for no reason and much worse.
So, I still get occasional indegestion and a bit of acid but it is down to me being stupid, not eating dry bread, Omzaperole can help if you have over indulged and did a little before but get checked for this, I used to get trapped air, felt like it was around my heart, probably wasnt but dont think we can accurately place pain internally so well.
Not saying this is your issue but sometimes I used to get chest pains like you describe, they went after the acid had been dealt with, I suspect my gastric tract was red raw from all the acid, I used to burp and it made me want to cry, was like being punched, when it subsided, I used to get the pains.
23 October 2012, 07:07 AM
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I honestly don't know, I've never looked into that before, but I would've thought it would be possible. Maybe one of the docs on here would know?
Before going down that route, it may be worth having another word with your GP. Do you always deal with the same doctor, and if so, is there not another you could get an appointment with to see if you get any more joy with them?
Before going down that route, it may be worth having another word with your GP. Do you always deal with the same doctor, and if so, is there not another you could get an appointment with to see if you get any more joy with them?
have you been checked over by a osteopath, i only ask as everytime i put my back out i get cronic gut ache at the bottom of my ribs in the middle , one visit later clicky click and all is well again, osteopath said it was quite likely my stomach musles tightening to stop further injury was causing the indegestion/heart burn sensation
Pimmo, a few years back I used to get terrible reflux, used to double me over and manifest itself as chest pain, burning, bloating, burping and generally being miserable, my doctor was useless, telling me to not drink, not eat spicy food, lose weight, exercise, sleep on an angle, take antacids, right miserable old bitch she was, no help.
Anyway, I went back a year or so later as it was no better, had tried everything and was dreading the assault on my lifestyle (which wasnt that bad) but I got a different doctor, an older chap, much fatter than me, red face and very friendly, he examined me and I had a test for a stomach bug called "Heliocobacter Pylori", he gave me what looked like enough antibiotics to treat a horse and said to come back in a month, I went back and I was cured of it, it had ruled my life for years, I couldn't eat certain stuff and sometimes dry bread would set it off, I could understand a bit of stomach trouble after a Vindaloo and ten pints but this was for no reason and much worse.
So, I still get occasional indegestion and a bit of acid but it is down to me being stupid, not eating dry bread, Omzaperole can help if you have over indulged and did a little before but get checked for this, I used to get trapped air, felt like it was around my heart, probably wasnt but dont think we can accurately place pain internally so well.
Not saying this is your issue but sometimes I used to get chest pains like you describe, they went after the acid had been dealt with, I suspect my gastric tract was red raw from all the acid, I used to burp and it made me want to cry, was like being punched, when it subsided, I used to get the pains.
Anyway, I went back a year or so later as it was no better, had tried everything and was dreading the assault on my lifestyle (which wasnt that bad) but I got a different doctor, an older chap, much fatter than me, red face and very friendly, he examined me and I had a test for a stomach bug called "Heliocobacter Pylori", he gave me what looked like enough antibiotics to treat a horse and said to come back in a month, I went back and I was cured of it, it had ruled my life for years, I couldn't eat certain stuff and sometimes dry bread would set it off, I could understand a bit of stomach trouble after a Vindaloo and ten pints but this was for no reason and much worse.
So, I still get occasional indegestion and a bit of acid but it is down to me being stupid, not eating dry bread, Omzaperole can help if you have over indulged and did a little before but get checked for this, I used to get trapped air, felt like it was around my heart, probably wasnt but dont think we can accurately place pain internally so well.
Not saying this is your issue but sometimes I used to get chest pains like you describe, they went after the acid had been dealt with, I suspect my gastric tract was red raw from all the acid, I used to burp and it made me want to cry, was like being punched, when it subsided, I used to get the pains.
23 October 2012, 07:09 AM
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Hypercalcaemia
- Stones (renal or biliary)
- Bones (bone pain)
- Groans (abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting)
- Thrones (sit on throne - polyuria)
- Psychiatric overtones (Depression 30-40%, anxiety, cognitive dysfunction, insomnia, coma)
23 October 2012, 08:14 AM
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have you been checked over by a osteopath, i only ask as everytime i put my back out i get cronic gut ache at the bottom of my ribs in the middle , one visit later clicky click and all is well again, osteopath said it was quite likely my stomach musles tightening to stop further injury was causing the indegestion/heart burn sensation
No, would that be made worse by some foods though ?
eating anything at all. but made worse by spag boll. piza. cheese,lager,any fizzy drink. coffee, can't think of ant other foods but those made it agony
have you been checked over by a osteopath, i only ask as everytime i put my back out i get cronic gut ache at the bottom of my ribs in the middle , one visit later clicky click and all is well again, osteopath said it was quite likely my stomach musles tightening to stop further injury was causing the indegestion/heart burn sensation
No, would that be made worse by some foods though ?
eating anything at all. but made worse by spag boll. piza. cheese,lager,any fizzy drink. coffee, can't think of ant other foods but those made it agony
23 October 2012, 10:12 AM
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How high up in your chest? Sometimes epigastric pain (just below your sternum) can be mistaken with chest pain, and you don't need a full house of symptoms to have hypercalcaemia. I don't know how many Tesco antacids you'd need to take to get it, and your blood may well have already been checked for calcium in your investigations anyway.
FD is probably what the gastroenterologist is saying?
FD is probably what the gastroenterologist is saying?
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i had something similar once upon a time, in the end it was put down to stress. apparently you dont get the symptoms till the stressful situation has gone.at the time i thought - me stressed, dont be silly.
once i realised it, the symptoms very slowly subsided.
thai chi might help if you are willing to give it a proper go
once i realised it, the symptoms very slowly subsided.
thai chi might help if you are willing to give it a proper go
26 October 2012, 07:27 AM
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i had something similar once upon a time, in the end it was put down to stress. apparently you dont get the symptoms till the stressful situation has gone.at the time i thought - me stressed, dont be silly.
once i realised it, the symptoms very slowly subsided.
thai chi might help if you are willing to give it a proper go
once i realised it, the symptoms very slowly subsided.
thai chi might help if you are willing to give it a proper go
but I don't get a pattern around stressful times .. I can link it to food, or some extremes of exercise.. but although I must get stressed and it probably doesn't help, unless you're talking days after it's not happening for me .. I'm willing to try anything ...
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