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Old 02 November 2012, 09:46 AM
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Um not its not.
Autocad is primarily a 2d drawing package where lines are actually drawn.
Revit however is a 3d modelling package where a model is built up using families.
I have both packages on my computer at work.

See how far you get in the BIM environment using Autocad

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um revit is autocad
Old 02 November 2012, 09:52 AM
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you do realise revit is based in autocad environment just with added functionality? while the methodology has been adjusted, its still just the autocad shell.

It's the same for most of the family of autodesk pacakges. Like plant 3D etc etc

Standard autocad has full 3d capabilitys, it just doesn't have the automation and scripting to facilitate easy use, you can do 3D on it just add a z co-ordinate
Old 02 November 2012, 10:24 AM
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Which Revit package are you using that anywhere resembles Autocad?

You actually said Revit WAS Autocad do you stand by that, if so with all due respect you're talking rubbish.






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you do realise revit is based in autocad environment just with added functionality? while the methodology has been adjusted, its still just the autocad shell.

It's the same for most of the family of autodesk pacakges. Like plant 3D etc etc

Standard autocad has full 3d capabilitys, it just doesn't have the automation and scripting to facilitate easy use, you can do 3D on it just add a z co-ordinate
Old 02 November 2012, 10:55 AM
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ALL of them are based on same platform. The functionality is different, but its based on a autocad shell, not sure why you'd think it was a seperate package?

Revit mep,

http://docs.autodesk.com/RVTMPJ/2010...ui_800x600.png

revit structures

http://www.synoedge.com/images/Autod...rface_Full.jpg

revit architecture

http://www.synoedge.com/images/Autod...rface_Full.jpg

revit structure

http://docs.autodesk.com/REVITST/201...ui_800x600.png
vs autocad

http://www.theinquirer.net/IMG/051/8...png?1253630108

as you can see its different comands in the same package, while how the commands work is different, its still based on the basic autocad chassis.

Why would they rewrite a package from scratch when they can use the same base package?

Even autoplant is based on autocad.
Old 02 November 2012, 11:23 AM
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Nice use of google, however.....

As someone who has gone from USING Autocad to USING Revit they are totally different other than autodesk make them.

Which Revit package do you use?
I work with the big boys in the BIM enviromentwhere Revit not Autocad must be used.

Earlier I stated I use Revit to which your response was Revit IS Autocad, do you stand by this?

YES or NO

Non of you I.T. Buzz words just a plain and simple yes or no!
Old 02 November 2012, 11:39 AM
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I don't use revit, we have evaluated it and it doesn't do what we need to do so we have gone other routes, we have gone plant design suite to be exact.

Revit is based on an Autocad platform, so to say is it autocad its a part yes and part no. While it wasn't origionaly written by auotdesk, it sits on top of autocad.

There is added functionality, automation and as you say back ground database files. However that doesn't detract from it using autocad as a basic working structure.

I havn't said yes or no, because your asking a question that isn't as black and white as that. you could describe revit as an extension to autocad.

So ont he flip side your saying that autocad has no similaritys/common day to day working methods as revit, none of the way it works is the same, none of the commands are the same and it looks totaly different?

Also whats your definition of the requirements to actualy be a BIM package?
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I would recomend getting a SolidWorks license.
Easy to learn for beginners since every action somehow is more logical to understand and you can figure things out on the way.

Catia V5 is a bit different than other programs and has it's special ways of managing toolbars and different features compared to other programs wich i found more easy to learn. Otherwise i would recomend Autodesk Inventor if a more "high-end" program is desired. The program have great renderingskills so 3d-presentations to customers can be made very nice.
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