Dirk Diggler 75

The perfect poll ^^^^

blackpoolrock

id like to know about andrew carr and his maps, i cant see how a map can be anything other than better for your car, its all back up by software. I have had one map done by him and wanted to use him again, but stuff like this puts me off (and it is true, even the most loyal will now be wary of API simply because of this thread) so id like to hear what problems people can have with MAP.

at the end of the day we are changing, trying to improve something that has had millions thrown at it in the testing stage- we are throwing hundreds at people without the equipment available to the factory, without all the R&D and HOPING it will be better. People are aloud to make mistakes - its how they deal with them that makes the difference. This does not account for straight out lieing though, if the OP has it in righting that things were changed in his Engine (valves i think) then API come on here and say they didn't but actually changed the engine then that is out of order. OP if you do have that email, post it then that draws a line under it and the thread can be locked and people have hard facts to make up there own mind ?

jazzyjembreaze

iTrader: (11)

Blackpoolrock
Listen m8 , iv got 10k into my engine & Andrew Carr has just done a run in map on it
U think for 1 minute I'm gonna let some 1 who dosnt know touch it

Rest easy will ya

blackpoolrock

Listen m8 ! hahaha like i said andrew carr has done my rally car (as stated) and as i said it is great and once i get hold of him ill be ASKING him to do my road car - i also said id like to know how you can get a map wrong, as in i dont think you can, but im happy to be proven wrong.

jazzyjembreaze

iTrader: (11)

I'm on no ones side here I am just pointing out my position
I know a fair bit & I'm not afraid to put my point across
It's your motor guv do as u please
Besides isn't this thread about some 1 else
You only have the op's word & maybe 1 other post regarding negative issues regarding mr Carr
This is turning into a slagging match & getting right out of hand
Who ****ing cares !!!!
You buy a tv , it breaks , you take it back
Do you always get satisfaction ( no
Well it's the same ****ing deal with every thing in life
Wake up & smell the coffee people

blackpoolrock

read the post, nothing negative about andrew carr from me at all !

adam405sti

iTrader: (14)

I would have thought everyone has one of them otherwise you would be filling up with out a dump valve. Straight to the point...lol

Blue and Gold

iTrader: (1)

I do have all the emails sent between me and David but if I post them then I will only be accused of editing them.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

OP

I think you have made your point and there is nothing left to gain, if there ever was in the begining.

David is on a hiding to nothing, so i guess thats why he has declined to comment further.

Everyone who has seen the thread can and will make up their own minds.

It's inevitable that all the tuners will have customers that feel hard done by, i have heard stories about most of them, and i have personal experience of a bad tuner but chose not to speak about it as there was nothing to be gained.

Fair play to you for having the b4lls to speak up, but it's getting a bit "there was this one time in band camp."

I'd just let it go now if i were you, you seem like a decent chap and it's not good to hold on to anger and anxed, it messes with your karma.

Good luck with the sale and i hope you have better luck on the dark side.

addi monster

iTrader: (6)

Is that exactly what david did ? lying about the car he sold, then having to be badgered into fixing it, lying about the work he did then lying when asked about the car ?
Op, This thread has exposed the dark side of a company which everyone deserves to see, companies like this take ££££'s off us chaps and should be accountable for there actions.

MattyB1983

iTrader: (51)

I think David's silence speaks a thousand words.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

I find myself agreeing with you, certainly made me see him in a different light, which is not something i'm pleased to say, as he and his team are great contributers to this site.

Maz

iTrader: (34)

IF everything the OP has posted is true, from the issues on collecting the car when he bought it to alleged lies to the prospective buyer, this is very unprofessional and bordering on malicious.

Dave Y

iTrader: (52)

Question.
If you changed your engine and failed to tell your insurer would your insurance be null and void.?
Where would you stand legally with the DVLA?

blackpoolrock

Good question

Shaun

If there is a major problem with not informing the DVLA about an engine change, then 50%+ of this community better start worrying! That also goes for capacity change and of course using untaxed Methanol to propel your engine.

As with most things in life.... we all must put it into perspective!

Myles

iTrader: (40)

Agreed. I bet there are more than 50% on here who, in the situation where the insurance company would need to inspect the car, would be a little twitchy.

Shaun

Whatever David says or does on this thread, he will be on a hiding to nothing. At times in life, regardless of the situation, it can be better to make no further comment. However, that is not an admission to guilt or wrong doing.

The fact is the number of people who have made comment on this thread is an amazingly small percentage of this community, perhaps because most don't actually care, although the majority will undoubtedly be revelling in either the OP's apparent mis fortune or that of a well known trader.

There is nothing else that will come of this thread keeping it open, other than more pot shots and the reverse, **** kissing.

I can catagorically re-state all the negatives I have heard about every single (the well known ones) trader on here. Some stuff I have heard would make your **** boil.

I genuinely feel for anyone that has had a bad time with any other entity, but let's be realistic, if APi were a bunch of no good nothing idiots, I doubt they would have been in business as long as they have and also have as many happy customers as they have.

Yes I'm biased.... that's a fact I can't deny, but only by the fact that I have had nothing but great service from David and the team at APi. he has always bent over backwards for me and I know I'm not alone.

Again... I'm not making comment about the actual detail that has been stated. I can't and how can I, I'm not the OP and not David. My comments have either been aimed at how this was dealt with and now, general comments about APi.

Perhaps people need to stop commenting on any reported incident detail that are not directly involved.

Moderators: This thread is going round in circles and whilst I'm not suggesting it is removed, it should at least be locked. Both parties have spoken and to keep it open is only allowing more subjectiveness to be added, which imo, is not helping the OP or APi.

Dave Y

iTrader: (52)

So was that a yes or no to my question?

topshot

iTrader: (4)

Not sure on insurance, doubt it would void your insurance provided it is like for like.
The DVLA however seem to need evidence now to change engine number. When i changed mine in my old corsa (like for like) i just sent them copy of receipt and the new engine number on the forms and they changed it and sent me new log book.

Mr moff

iTrader: (1)

This thread has opened my eye's.

Stu.sti

iTrader: (1)

That might be true, but the people who modify there cars make a conscious choice to do that knowing the risks. The op didn't get that choice!

Lagamorph

iTrader: (12)

I agree

MattyB1983

iTrader: (51)

Shaun, I completely understand you defending API, why wouldn't you. They have done you no wrong and you are obviously very happy with the service you have received. That clearly shows that API can do good work and provide a service people are happy to pay for. I would do the very same if my chosen tuner was in this position, however I don't think my chosen tuner would be somehow.

One question though Shaun,

Is what David has done to the OP right or wrong, is it an act of a professional tuner.
Please answer honestly and forget your ties with API.

bikesforme

Bad and doggy dealings with companys, should be brought to light. People should not feel guilty to express there word of bad service, so us the paying public can get a insight to companys .
This post should now be stopped, we have all got the picture and no more needs to be said , we the public can make our own minds up from it. If a good service poll was made, i am sure David would have a big following of happy customers.
Me myself i would not like to hear any bad views on a company i am giving my hard earned cash too, or trusting my car with. Thats why i am taking my car to carnetix.

blackpoolrock

very true - if all that has gone before it is true also !

Shaun

As I said previously, I'm not going to comment on the allegation that has been made. I don't have all the facts and it simply has nothing to do with me.

Just let me leave you with this one.....

As you know I co-owned this site for a number of years and it was amazing how people would comment on "things that cropped up" with regard to the runnings and the dealings of this site, to the point that they were 100% sure their comment was justified and 100% correct. 99% of the time it was comical. This is unfortunately mirrored through other walks of life and is only getting worse imo.

In life I have learnt that unless you know all the facts required to make an informed decision, than don't! lol There are always two sides to every story and when something seems so crazy and unbelievable..... it probably is.

It makes me laugh and actually pisses me off when every man and his dog wades in when a bit of blood is seen. I would go as far to say it's spineless and proves how pathetic, imature and unintelligent some people are. Hunt by numbers hey as some feel brave.... ******! This is not aimed at anyone specifically, but just a general comment on a minority that seem to be on the increase unfortunately.

Anyway.... I'll get off my soap box for now.

Myles

iTrader: (40)

Wow, you made a lucky escape.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

OK.

OP has had his say. Dave has had his. It appears this isn't going anywhere in terms of a resolution. I don't think the OP is after a resolution anyway so thats a moot point.

Which makes this a dirty laundry thread, and nearly all of them get locked or deleted. For good reason, its in the forum our rules (no name and shame).

Just to explain why we do this: I/We may make the odd discretionary exception if there was an attempt at getting a problem sorted amicably and posts/communications are made in a civil manner, or the person in question is a real rogue trader best avoided at all costs (until we get another legal order for removal - which has happened in the past).

However I think this thread is way past any excuse to make an exception to our rules. The context of the first post clearly shows the intention of this thread is to drag a person's name/business through the gutter as opposed to trying to seek a resolution. Rightly or wrongly, I'm not going to give my opinion on that, nor the OP's motive for creating this thread. But what I will say is continuation of it on SN without any sight of an amicable solution is not acceptable.

So, finish off the popcorn; Thread locked.

Edit: Just to clarify; When I mean 'amicable' I mean a mutual agreeance on both sides. Not gaining something for nothing by way of making a big noise on a forum, I'm not saying this is the case here, but it has been in the past, and is why we are so guarded about topics like these.