Speeding
13 November 2012, 10:14 AM
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There is no such thing as a fast lane, it's an overtkaiing lane!
Unless they are overtaking something they should be in the left most lane, that is why they should move over. Ginge clearly stated that they could move into the left hand lanes and that is exactly where they should be.
No wonder the country has worsening driving standards with this sort of carry on!
Unless they are overtaking something they should be in the left most lane, that is why they should move over. Ginge clearly stated that they could move into the left hand lanes and that is exactly where they should be.
No wonder the country has worsening driving standards with this sort of carry on!
I always drive in the furthest left lane if not overtaking so please don't judge my driving ability. Driving over 10 years with no points or crashes and have always owned performance cars. I'm merely pointing out that tailing other vehicles and flashing your way through traffic is being nothing more than a menace, especially when traveling at 70mph !!!!
Do you condone that way of driving F1 fan because in my opinion 'that' sort of carry on shows the country's worsening driving standards.
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13 November 2012, 10:20 AM
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60 miles a day on the M1 mostly in off peak hours when the road is quiet and you just would not believe how many people are sat in lane 2 or even lane 3 without another car in sight! If they don't take the hint then I do undertake and don't give a rats *** if I'm speeding or not - if I get caught, it's my own tough **** 
13 November 2012, 10:24 AM
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Just as an aside, when I am driving the M1 during peak hours, the same idiots are sat in lane 2 with nothing in lane 1 with a huge queue behind them and in Lane 3! They are the danger, not the speeders!
13 November 2012, 10:32 AM
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Agree, but if traveling at 70mph who should (other than emergency vehicles) be overtaking them ??
I always drive in the furthest left lane if not overtaking so please don't judge my driving ability. Driving over 10 years with no points or crashes and have always owned performance cars. I'm merely pointing out that tailing other vehicles and flashing your way through traffic is being nothing more than a menace, especially when traveling at 70mph !!!!
Do you condone that way of driving F1 fan because in my opinion 'that' sort of carry on shows the country's worsening driving standards.
I always drive in the furthest left lane if not overtaking so please don't judge my driving ability. Driving over 10 years with no points or crashes and have always owned performance cars. I'm merely pointing out that tailing other vehicles and flashing your way through traffic is being nothing more than a menace, especially when traveling at 70mph !!!!
Do you condone that way of driving F1 fan because in my opinion 'that' sort of carry on shows the country's worsening driving standards.
As for exceeding the speed limit despite your halo I am sure even you occasionally do it and given how good a driver you profess to be I am sure you do so perfectly safely and sensibly so drop the 70mph thing as you're embarrassing yourself!
13 November 2012, 10:40 AM
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No I condone driving sensibly. Flashing your lights and taligating someone is obviously stupid, but so is driving in the incorrect lane regardless of the speed you are doing. If you are not overtaking then you should not be in a lane where there is space in the lane to your left. It's not hard to understand or do!
As for exceeding the speed limit despite your halo I am sure even you occasionally do it and given how good a driver you profess to be I am sure you do so perfectly safely and sensibly so drop the 70mph thing as you're embarrassing yourself!
As for exceeding the speed limit despite your halo I am sure even you occasionally do it and given how good a driver you profess to be I am sure you do so perfectly safely and sensibly so drop the 70mph thing as you're embarrassing yourself!
99% of the time F1 you are a complete prat but I do actually agree with you on this point. It's not the speed I'm getting at here, for christs sake I break the speed limit quite often when safe to do so, my point being the manner of driving.
He openly admitted to tailing other cars and then getting frustrated so even flashes his lights trying to force them out of the way. And then if that doesn't work he'll even undertake them, I'm sorry but that is utterly stupid. That method of driving is far far more dangerous than some old git sat in the outside lane at 65mph.
He even did it to an undercover police officer, I mean come on if that's not being an idiot I don't know what is.
If we are honest then we all speed sometimes, most of us drive cars that can break the limit in just a few seconds for christs sake. However, there's driving fast safely and there's driving fast dangerously. Two very very different ways of driving but sometimes easy to confuse with each other.
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13 November 2012, 11:06 AM
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I road mapped my car a few months back and thank god that wasn't caught on a speed gun
but that was the first time in years I've pushed into silly figures for many years and I don't intend to do it again in a hurry as I drive for a living and it's become stuck on me to keep speeds to 80-90 when traffic allows.
Good luck with the court date
but that was the first time in years I've pushed into silly figures for many years and I don't intend to do it again in a hurry as I drive for a living and it's become stuck on me to keep speeds to 80-90 when traffic allows. Good luck with the court date
13 November 2012, 11:14 AM
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Would be interesting to statistics on accidents caused within speed limits against those caused by cars breaking limits. Particularly the occurrence, fatality and serious injury rates.
13 November 2012, 03:19 PM
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We all at some point drive like a tool, btw I have been driving for 11 years and also have no points or convictions since passing my test and the cars I have owned in the last 10 years was a xr3i cabrio 6 months into passing my test, then a 350bhp cossie, then a 328i BMW as a daily hack when the cossie engine let go, then a v3 sti that I currently own and used daily for almost 3 years, then a crappy corsa for 4 months and now my daily driver is a clio 172 that I have had 2 years
Not to mention a fleet of vehicles at work too
I'm not a total tossed on the road that I come across but the occasional time I can be,,,, thank **** I ain't mentioned my drive from London to croft in under 3 hours stopping twice for fuel on a early Sunday morning 4 years ago
Why wpeople lie about speeding I don't know,,,, speeding don't ducking kill its in appropriate speed that kills
No excuse btw for the undercover old bill,,,,, and yes I have learnt from that ALOT !!!
Also if you see what undercover cars they now run you would understand why I'm a little better these days as I supply parts to the metro police undercover workshop in west London
Not to mention a fleet of vehicles at work too
I'm not a total tossed on the road that I come across but the occasional time I can be,,,, thank **** I ain't mentioned my drive from London to croft in under 3 hours stopping twice for fuel on a early Sunday morning 4 years ago
Why wpeople lie about speeding I don't know,,,, speeding don't ducking kill its in appropriate speed that kills
No excuse btw for the undercover old bill,,,,, and yes I have learnt from that ALOT !!!
Also if you see what undercover cars they now run you would understand why I'm a little better these days as I supply parts to the metro police undercover workshop in west London
13 November 2012, 05:16 PM
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Are you saying spinning in 3rd gear in a skoda is 100mph or over?...
Didnt think so...
Nor did i state i was driving sensibly. Nor did i state 'i dont speed or drive sensibly' ' i merely stated that doing 100mph; quite rightly stated by the law is a straight court conviction leading to possible loss of licence. I dont claim to not speed etc... If the need calls for it, i will overtake at 80-90 max on a motorway (traffic permitting). In my opinion 100mph is not needed on public roads whether there is no traffic or not.
Seems funny to me that yourself and others on here that i cba to qoute are quick to defend someone who was found guilty of driving at 100mph as opposed to me. Who altgough ive only been driving for 7 years, drives approx 45k miles a year in the works van +the average 5-6 in the car and im yet to receive a single speeding conviction.
Upon my daily driving, the amount of accidents with/without fatalities i witness that are caused by 'speeding' lead me to return to my original stated opinion...
'speeding' at or in excess of 100mph deserves a straight ban. Imo if you buy a high performance car to drive like a nutcase make sure you allow funds for track days. posting a thread on a public forum that you were 'caught' doing 100mph doesnt earn sympathy from me im afraid.
Didnt think so...
Nor did i state i was driving sensibly. Nor did i state 'i dont speed or drive sensibly' ' i merely stated that doing 100mph; quite rightly stated by the law is a straight court conviction leading to possible loss of licence. I dont claim to not speed etc... If the need calls for it, i will overtake at 80-90 max on a motorway (traffic permitting). In my opinion 100mph is not needed on public roads whether there is no traffic or not.
Seems funny to me that yourself and others on here that i cba to qoute are quick to defend someone who was found guilty of driving at 100mph as opposed to me. Who altgough ive only been driving for 7 years, drives approx 45k miles a year in the works van +the average 5-6 in the car and im yet to receive a single speeding conviction.
Upon my daily driving, the amount of accidents with/without fatalities i witness that are caused by 'speeding' lead me to return to my original stated opinion...
'speeding' at or in excess of 100mph deserves a straight ban. Imo if you buy a high performance car to drive like a nutcase make sure you allow funds for track days. posting a thread on a public forum that you were 'caught' doing 100mph doesnt earn sympathy from me im afraid.
It,s not speed that kills, it,s crap driving
13 November 2012, 05:54 PM
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Who hasn't broke the speed limit in there life ive been done before back in 2002 went past unmarked old bill car on the M20 on a Yamaha R1 at 139mph got a 3 month ban and £700 fine on the same motorway before that happened i redlined it in 6th gear 187mph was young and highly stupid was about 3.30am since then most of the time i ride/drive like a granny with the odd mad moment
14 November 2012, 10:42 AM
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Well maybe my view is slightly skewed in as much as my brother Andrew was killed by a speeding motorist on the A45 in Coventry 5 years ago. For those of you who know Coventry it was the eastbound carriageway just after the Burnt Post Pub.
The driver (a 46 year old 'experienced' driver) was caught on camera doing 77mph in a 40mph zone.
He was nice and safe in his car, my brother wasn't so lucky, he was thrown 50 feet down the road. He broke his neck, both legs, shattered his pelvis and suffered terrible internal injuries. He died at the scene.
So yes cars may be safer, but that doesn't help a pedestrian that's been hit at 77mph.
As an aside, my comment and
were mainly aimed at this -
RIP Andy 
The driver (a 46 year old 'experienced' driver) was caught on camera doing 77mph in a 40mph zone.
He was nice and safe in his car, my brother wasn't so lucky, he was thrown 50 feet down the road. He broke his neck, both legs, shattered his pelvis and suffered terrible internal injuries. He died at the scene.
So yes cars may be safer, but that doesn't help a pedestrian that's been hit at 77mph.
As an aside, my comment and
were mainly aimed at this -
I don't think 100 mph on a duel/motorway is worthy of a disqualification! Let alone points!
14 November 2012, 10:51 AM
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Well maybe my view is slightly skewed in as much as my brother Andrew was killed by a speeding motorist on the A45 in Coventry 5 years ago. For those of you who know Coventry it was the eastbound carriageway just after the Burnt Post Pub.
The driver (a 46 year old 'experienced' driver) was caught on camera doing 77mph in a 40mph zone.
He was nice and safe in his car, my brother wasn't so lucky, he was thrown 50 feet down the road. He broke his neck, both legs, shattered his pelvis and suffered terrible internal injuries. He died at the scene.
So yes cars may be safer, but that doesn't help a pedestrian that's been hit at 77mph.
As an aside, my comment and were mainly aimed at this -
RIP Andy
The driver (a 46 year old 'experienced' driver) was caught on camera doing 77mph in a 40mph zone.
He was nice and safe in his car, my brother wasn't so lucky, he was thrown 50 feet down the road. He broke his neck, both legs, shattered his pelvis and suffered terrible internal injuries. He died at the scene.
So yes cars may be safer, but that doesn't help a pedestrian that's been hit at 77mph.
As an aside, my comment and
were mainly aimed at this - RIP Andy
Sorry to hear about your brother.
14 November 2012, 10:55 AM
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Well maybe my view is slightly skewed in as much as my brother Andrew was killed by a speeding motorist on the A45 in Coventry 5 years ago. For those of you who know Coventry it was the eastbound carriageway just after the Burnt Post Pub.
The driver (a 46 year old 'experienced' driver) was caught on camera doing 77mph in a 40mph zone.
He was nice and safe in his car, my brother wasn't so lucky, he was thrown 50 feet down the road. He broke his neck, both legs, shattered his pelvis and suffered terrible internal injuries. He died at the scene.
So yes cars may be safer, but that doesn't help a pedestrian that's been hit at 77mph.
As an aside, my comment and were mainly aimed at this -
RIP Andy
The driver (a 46 year old 'experienced' driver) was caught on camera doing 77mph in a 40mph zone.
He was nice and safe in his car, my brother wasn't so lucky, he was thrown 50 feet down the road. He broke his neck, both legs, shattered his pelvis and suffered terrible internal injuries. He died at the scene.
So yes cars may be safer, but that doesn't help a pedestrian that's been hit at 77mph.
As an aside, my comment and
were mainly aimed at this - RIP Andy
I'm all for strictly enforced 50mph stretches though when workers are on the road.
Modern cars at 100mph are safer and can stop quicker than the cars which were on the roads in the 60's when 70mph was deemed a safe motorway speed.
14 November 2012, 11:14 AM
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Coupe, sorry to hear about your loss, and I would NEVER condone speeding in a restricted zone which a 40mph speed limit would denote!
I was referring to motorways, so not such a stupid statement!
I was referring to motorways, so not such a stupid statement!
14 November 2012, 11:35 AM
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Breaking the speed limit is not dangerous.
Driving too fast for the conditions is dangerous.
Most I have done in my impreza is 150. I was the only car in perfect conditions. Perfectly safe but very illegal (if it wasnt for the fact it was on autobahn lol).
Whenevar I drive past local secondary school at kicking out time, I drive at 15 mph as the kids are idiots. I see other motorists driving at 30mph in these condition they are driving very dangerously but very legal.
Driving too fast for the conditions is dangerous.
Most I have done in my impreza is 150. I was the only car in perfect conditions. Perfectly safe but very illegal (if it wasnt for the fact it was on autobahn lol).
Whenevar I drive past local secondary school at kicking out time, I drive at 15 mph as the kids are idiots. I see other motorists driving at 30mph in these condition they are driving very dangerously but very legal.
14 November 2012, 11:43 AM
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Im really sorry to hear about your brother coupe, Pedestrian safety should always be a main factor when considering speeds through built up areas, I totally agree! I often see youngsters flying through my village chancing red lights, an the number of accidents shows this which drives me insane and often use a few choice words given the chance, but I think there is room for motorway regulations to be looked at, just look at the German autobahn, from what I have seen or read the figures suggest lower accident figures than our roads so its not always the case of speed, it's the people behind the wheel of a big powerful car who ain't got a clue what they are doing who quickly get in to trouble, as mentioned previously IMO it wouldn't be a bad idea to regulate the new drivers on our roads and restrict them to a certain engine size or make it compulsory to do advanced driving schools before getting behind the wheel of something that can break the speed limit in a few seconds! But like anything in life you will never be able to totally regulate something, you will always have the people who have total disrespect for others around them and their safety, these are the people they should be targeting not the everyday jo blogs following the flow of traffic, we are just cash cows, simple as that!
14 November 2012, 12:07 PM
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I sincerely hope he got a custodial sentence.
Some real self righteous bell end posts on here too (yes you DantheMan), as above all about context and how appropriate the speed is to the conditions.
To the OP, Frayz advice is the best on here and may actually go some way to mitigating your punishment. Good luck.
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14 November 2012, 12:44 PM
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Lets all be totally honest, I know no one is going to post their fastest road-speed here without criminalising themselves but could a paid-member create a Poll please, on a road-user's fastest speed in a scoob.
Lets see how many of us are naughty - just out of curiosity. Would be so interesting to see if the majority or the minority of us, are safe or silly drivers.
Lets see how many of us are naughty - just out of curiosity. Would be so interesting to see if the majority or the minority of us, are safe or silly drivers.
14 November 2012, 12:58 PM
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Hand on heart I can honestly say I don't ever do 100mph on public roads. Not saying I didn't when I was young and stupid but now I just don't see the point. Driving at high speed doesn't interest me, the fun is in low down acceleration and getting through the twisties quickly. My van is limited to 75 which i do circa 40K miles a year in so high speed is impossible in that and I honestly think the only times I've broken 100mph in my impreza was on the strip. It might be different for me because when I'm out in the Subaru I'm not actually going anywhere, its used for fun on a Sunday afternoon only.
14 November 2012, 01:09 PM
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Do not say you know its dangerous Do not say you weren't aware what speed you were doing.Do say that you assessed the conditions which were good visibility no traffic and were concentrating on the road not the speedometer.
Traffic conditions do have a bearing because in every police pursuit that is one of the main criteria as to whether the pursuit continues or is called off.