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What makes you think that mate? It is exactly the same regardless of input source materials definition as a HD screen has 1920 pixels left to right in 1080 rows, making 2073600 pixels. So, the bigger the screen, the bigger the pixels and therefore the further away you need to sit to ensure you cant see them all clearly thus making the image look "Pixelated"
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Stu your cable will be ok, i run a 1.3 and its fine, my Yammi amp passes it through.
All the 1.4 does is Ethernet, there are other i suppose advantages, but none you and i would notice ll techno babble and numbers. Im the same and plastered my 1.3 in. I bought a 60 quid 1.4 but have yet to chop it in LOL
As for 3d Players, Look at the smart ones, Samsung do a few nice ones. I have the Panasonic its good but not great.
In all honesty though get the ps3 or this
http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/
Opps are expensive ie 500 to 900 but apart from everything 3d, they are a great STreaming device. so dump them films on a nas somewhere these babys play everything.
basically a highend Boxee or WD TV
Scrooge is good in 3d, at the start its great looking out the shop window
All the 1.4 does is Ethernet, there are other i suppose advantages, but none you and i would notice ll techno babble and numbers. Im the same and plastered my 1.3 in. I bought a 60 quid 1.4 but have yet to chop it in LOL
As for 3d Players, Look at the smart ones, Samsung do a few nice ones. I have the Panasonic its good but not great.
In all honesty though get the ps3 or this
http://www.oppo-bluray.co.uk/
Opps are expensive ie 500 to 900 but apart from everything 3d, they are a great STreaming device. so dump them films on a nas somewhere these babys play everything.
basically a highend Boxee or WD TV
Scrooge is good in 3d, at the start its great looking out the shop window
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As for 3d Players, Look at the smart ones,
My favorite 3D film so far has been Prometheus. I think it looked better than Avatar on the whole. not effects wise, as avatar is great at that, but as a whole, where you could enjoy the full HD of the movie without constantly thinking about the 3D side making things feel weird and sometimes dark.
Tonights mission is fitting a pair of front highs.
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By the looks you have a Panasonic, same as me
Does yours stream MKV etc, or are you running a transcoder on your server. Ive yet to see a native TV run HD 720 and 1080 without a decoder none have the codecs
Does yours stream MKV etc, or are you running a transcoder on your server. Ive yet to see a native TV run HD 720 and 1080 without a decoder none have the codecs
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Yes mate, its the new VT50B.
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Support FormatAVCHD 3D/Progressive, SD-VIDEO/MotionJPEG (Lumix)/DivXPlusHD/WMV/MKV/AVI/MP4/MOV, MP3/AAC/WMA Pro/FLAC, JPEG/MPO
Support FormatAVCHD 3D/Progressive, SD-VIDEO/MotionJPEG (Lumix)/DivXPlusHD/WMV/MKV/AVI/MP4/MOV, MP3/AAC/WMA Pro/FLAC, JPEG/MPO
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The whole room is only 3.5m long mate... My seat is at around 2.9m unless watching a movie then we pull it up to maximise viewing and surround field to about 1.6m
I couldn't easily sit much too far away if I tried. LOL
You are aware that if you sit closer than the recommended minimum distance that the image actually looks far worse aren't you?
I couldn't easily sit much too far away if I tried. LOL
You are aware that if you sit closer than the recommended minimum distance that the image actually looks far worse aren't you?
How about viewing a 64" diagonal from 1.96m away?!
Gives the same perceived screen size as sitting in the middle of a Multiplex - the screen totally fills out one's peripheral vision.
I love it!
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good choice of amp Stu. Like you I also have a Pionner amp but a VSX LX70 which is 7.1 but I'm running a 5.1 setup of a set of polk audio recessed ceiling speakers. Like one of the previous posts 1.3 is sufficient enough for 3D, with my understanding 1.4 allows return audio from say the TV to the amp. Not sure how that matters if you have all sources going into the amp anyway and all switching is done there.
I can vouch that I run 2 cat5e cables under the floorboards to the back of the tv from the amp which is in a storage cupboard as is the SKY HD box. The conventers were bought from Keene electronics which converts a HDMI signal to run over the cat5 then reconverts it back into its true definition at the tv end.
I control the amp and sky box using a keene ir repeater from the living room plasma. The only thing in the living room is the PS3 (1st generation) which also connects the amp via an optical to digital coax converter to the amp.
Long story short the 3D isnt as cracked up as it is made out to be. Not everything is broadcasted in HD which is dissappointing. Its a good selling ploy though when you walk through shopping malls and sales men are run various clips of 3D when all they are are shorts for advertising.
3D is a great thing to bring into the home but its limited and not as selective as HD channels.
I can vouch that I run 2 cat5e cables under the floorboards to the back of the tv from the amp which is in a storage cupboard as is the SKY HD box. The conventers were bought from Keene electronics which converts a HDMI signal to run over the cat5 then reconverts it back into its true definition at the tv end.
I control the amp and sky box using a keene ir repeater from the living room plasma. The only thing in the living room is the PS3 (1st generation) which also connects the amp via an optical to digital coax converter to the amp.
Long story short the 3D isnt as cracked up as it is made out to be. Not everything is broadcasted in HD which is dissappointing. Its a good selling ploy though when you walk through shopping malls and sales men are run various clips of 3D when all they are are shorts for advertising.
3D is a great thing to bring into the home but its limited and not as selective as HD channels.
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What makes you think that mate? It is exactly the same regardless of input source materials definition as a HD screen has 1920 pixels left to right in 1080 rows, making 2073600 pixels. So, the bigger the screen, the bigger the pixels and therefore the further away you need to sit to ensure you cant see them all clearly thus making the image look "Pixelated"
But you're approaching it scientifically where in real world sitting infront of a 60" tv 1.94m wouldn't be much difference.
For my dads cinema he's site about 2 Meters away and it work and looks flawlessly and it's part of what I do for a living
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There are no other types. Its all sales bollox to sell you a new cable. The 1.3/1.4 etc refers to the control hardware of the device your plugging the cable into.
ARC by the way is very useful if your viewing content natively on the TV, for example, I stream HD movies directly to the TV and the TV sends that data to my AVR via the ARC and i still get the full dolby surround sound reaching my AVR for decoding and transmission.
Long story short the 3D isnt as cracked up as it is made out to be. Not everything is broadcasted in HD which is dissappointing. Its a good selling ploy though when you walk through shopping malls and sales men are run various clips of 3D when all they are are shorts for advertising.
3D is a great thing to bring into the home but its limited and not as selective as HD channels.
3D is a great thing to bring into the home but its limited and not as selective as HD channels.
Projection of course is a different matter as we are not bound by pixel resolution, but it was you whom brought TV viewing distance into it so I assumed you to be talking about TV. LOL
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Like you Stu I learnt hell of alot around AV setups when I was buying, setting mine up. Its a mine field but if you like this sort of thing and like to learn different areas then its a good place to start. I've had my setup for 6 years now and love watching movies, more importantly football in 3D. I'll be in the same boat when I change my TV for a 3D tv but there will be now rush.
Technology and solutions are so advanced, I mean who would have thought you could run HD over cat5 cable. At the time 15m HDMI cables were £200 plus, found out running 2 cat5 cables and buying £35 adapters you could view HD on your TV. A cheap as chips solution doing the same job.
good luck mate
Technology and solutions are so advanced, I mean who would have thought you could run HD over cat5 cable. At the time 15m HDMI cables were £200 plus, found out running 2 cat5 cables and buying £35 adapters you could view HD on your TV. A cheap as chips solution doing the same job.
good luck mate
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Totally agree mate, my current minefield is calibrating the reverberation characteristics of the room to get it all as flat as possible.
Surprising what a difference moving my sub has made to the Channel separation of the satellites, it transpires the sub was cancelling quite a few frequencies out with reverberation through being placed in a corner.
Its fascinating stuff when you get into it and start plugging PC's into your AVR. LOL.
Tonight I will be adding the front highs into the mix which will be interesting as I have never heard anything mixed out to supply front high. The bit I am dreading, is hiding the bloody wire. I HATE wires on show with a passion. It can actually cause me sleepless nights... honestly, what a ****?
Surprising what a difference moving my sub has made to the Channel separation of the satellites, it transpires the sub was cancelling quite a few frequencies out with reverberation through being placed in a corner.
Its fascinating stuff when you get into it and start plugging PC's into your AVR. LOL.
Tonight I will be adding the front highs into the mix which will be interesting as I have never heard anything mixed out to supply front high. The bit I am dreading, is hiding the bloody wire. I HATE wires on show with a passion. It can actually cause me sleepless nights... honestly, what a ****?
Like you Stu I learnt hell of alot around AV setups when I was buying, setting mine up. Its a mine field but if you like this sort of thing and like to learn different areas then its a good place to start. I've had my setup for 6 years now and love watching movies, more importantly football in 3D. I'll be in the same boat when I change my TV for a 3D tv but there will be now rush.
Technology and solutions are so advanced, I mean who would have thought you could run HD over cat5 cable. At the time 15m HDMI cables were £200 plus, found out running 2 cat5 cables and buying £35 adapters you could view HD on your TV. A cheap as chips solution doing the same job.
good luck mate
Technology and solutions are so advanced, I mean who would have thought you could run HD over cat5 cable. At the time 15m HDMI cables were £200 plus, found out running 2 cat5 cables and buying £35 adapters you could view HD on your TV. A cheap as chips solution doing the same job.
good luck mate
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you sound like you know what you are doing. I did the same move the sub around but for me didnt make a difference as i was testing to see if it were affecting the centre channel frequency as I felt i felt and what you may find is the centre db may need to increased as mine sounded a little low. i.e. when watching a movie I had to increase the volume to hear the dialogue but as soon as there was a dynamic action seen the sound was very loud to the point i would turn it down to only turn it up again to hear the dialogue again. It will never be right but I have settled with mines although not 100% but better than when i carried out the auto calibration. lol to this day I still tweak it...remember the centre channel is the most worked speaker of them all.
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you sound like you know what you are doing. I did the same move the sub around but for me didnt make a difference as i was testing to see if it were affecting the centre channel frequency as I felt i felt and what you may find is the centre db may need to increased as mine sounded a little low. i.e. when watching a movie I had to increase the volume to hear the dialogue but as soon as there was a dynamic action seen the sound was very loud to the point i would turn it down to only turn it up again to hear the dialogue again. It will never be right but I have settled with mines although not 100% but better than when i carried out the auto calibration. lol to this day I still tweak it...remember the centre channel is the most worked speaker of them all.
Auto calibration on the modern ones is pretty damn good, certainly I am quite impressed by MCACC pro on my new Pioneer, but on my older ones I always used a SPL monitor and set them all to 75db at listening position then measured the distance from there with a tape measure and input it all manually to ensure the surround delays were accurate. It makes a pretty jaw dropping difference when you get it absolutely bang on. Instead of being 6 or 8 or 10 channels of sound, it just becomes one overall "Surround Sound" as it should be, with no real indication of where anything is coming from particularly, it all just sweeps around you as it should. But get one of the speakers more than a few inches out and it can actually have quite a negative impact on it as the timings go to pot and a sound that should go front right, centre, left, rear left will start doing so in steps instead of fading between the two as it should.
Anyway, I am waffling now, better do some bloody work...
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