td bigdog

Call bull**** all you like I am licenced to hold 2 handguns for humane dispatch as are many people within my line of work.

LSherratt

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Restricted to a 2 shot, or full 6 shots?

Barrel length less than 12" ?

jazzyjembreaze

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Big dogs a keyboard warrior himself
Yea I'm licenced 2 pal
Although I shoot for culling rights , go on the odd shoot , do clays , & sport when my m8 has the eagle & falcons out
I mearly stated I would have no hesitation protecting my family with the tools I own
As for not been able to find my cabinet keys & unlock my guns
Dosent say much for your knowledge & miss placement of firearm keys does it sir !!!

td bigdog

restricted to 2 and less than 12

td bigdog

firstly I use firearms daily have to it's part of my job secondly if you can find those keys when your brains all over cause someones broke in to your home then your deluded SIR!!!

jazzyjembreaze

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I'm a light sleeper

td bigdog

In that case I wish you luck and hope you never have the situation arise

LSherratt

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Fair enough, thought it would be restricted to 2.... Guessing you HD deer or farm animals. I have yet to see anyone with a full 6 shot revolver although apparently someone on some shooting forums (owner of a pest control business) was begging to the police for about 2 years in order to get it accepted, and was in fact contracted by the Police to humanly despatch animals such as foxes stuck down in sewer pipes/systems where a rifle is too big to carry down. Not sure how true that is, but still...

jazzyjembreaze

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Your right in all fairness big dog
No 1 wants that on there hands
A double dose of rock salt in the **** wouldn't go amiss to see them scumbags out the door tho
Peace

td bigdog

up until february of this year mine where unrestricted but upon renewal the feo asked why they where full capacity turned out the 2 shot condition had been missed off on grant it caused a real **** storm in their dept and the result was that I had to have both guns magazines pinned


if you look closley on the side of the mag you can see the pins they hold a ali block below the follower will try and find a pic of my walther and my old 357 mag

td bigdog

LSherratt

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Nice one, apologises for calling you a bullsh!tter.

Sorry for going off topic and I hope the OP and your family are there to support your FIL. Such a horrible thing to have happened...

An0n0m0us

You don't need a specific guard dog breed, just one that is protective of your children and your property and many dogs will do that naturally by being an integral part of the family (as opposed to some mutt stuck out in the yard all it's life). My dog is exactly that, if anyone rings the doorbell she is at the door going nuts, not just barking but proper jowls and hackles up snarling and normally whoever is at the door steps well back when the door is opened. She is the same in the car if anyone approaches it and the kids are in the car.

She's a Labrador, looks as soft as **** and is unless strangers come near the kids or house/car. She wouldn't do a thing to protect me I suspect but the kids she is massively protective of, particularly my 2 year old Son who she has 'mothered' since he was born. She spent more time with him than she did her own litter of puppies. They have a reputation of being excellent with children and a family dog for good reason.

ditchmyster

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Another vote for the dog, it's all well and good giving it "the great i am" or "i will" but waking from REM sleep a 3am in the morning after a couple of (insert tipple of your choice or just a long few days/hard week at work) to be greeted by a couple of armed men is no easy task ( even for a bad a$$ sword toting ninja warrior like myself)

The dog does five things, it serves as a deterrent, an early warning system, and a weapon, it's a companion and it will keep you in shape, which is important for any would be ninja.

I'm also against turning the place into a fortress, because it kind of tells people you have something they may want, as well as the fire escape scenario.

My new dog is just over 6months old and is a big lad, (cane corso) already when people come he's barking, posturing and the hairs on his back are up, never failed to stop (even some of the very large ******* they have here in croatia) dead in there tracks, they all think i'm crazy because i tell him what a good boy he is when he does it. and he's always off the lead and next to me ready for action.

td bigdog

NO worries

As above sorry for running off topic hope your FIL is ok

Oldun

Sorry to hear of this your experience.
I can recommend a Great Dane.
They are a superb family dog, good natured, don't need a lot of excercise and if bought as a pup will be absolutely safe with children. When I had mine it was just a big kid until it heard an unrecognisable noise outside the house, good loud bark and anyone clocking a Dane in full protect mode will definately not want a conflict.
they are not expensive to feed either, they don't have a high metabolism so don't require tons of food.
Downside is that it produces molehills each day

I can also recommend that your FIL goes into sheltered accommodation.
When my dad died it meant that my mum was alone in a big house, she hated the idea of SA. I arranged for her to visit a recommended scheme. Once she'd had the visit she could not wait to move in, completely independant in her own flat.
She loved being there and was so active, residents are completely independant and can be as alone or gregarious as they want, with the added security of an onsite warden.
Some schemes have bungalows as well as flats.

hodgy0_2

sorry to hear about your FIL

my MIL was mugged 20 odd years ago, and tbh has never really got over it -- will not walk in the dark, even 50 yards

I is moving an option (nowehere is 100% safe, but thier are degrees)

urban

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Its a sad state of affairs I'm afraid.

I have another scenario.
Colleague in work left home to do his usual commute approx 8am.
His wife then proceeded to go down stairs to prepare for her commute only to be presented with two burglars in their living room.
They moved house after that.

billythekid

Of course you can. Its all about preperation and training.
I think you might be deluded..

td bigdog

deluded nah realistic it is very easy to type just how you think you would like to defend yourself on here the reality will be very very different and realsticaly just how many people are really going to regularaly train and prepare for an armed defence of their home, please though feel free to take us through the preperation and training schedule you have in mind.

Lydia72

Well done to all the hard-men who know exactly what they are going to do in such a scenario.
The original post states that this was a 74 year old man, riddled with arthritis, being attacked in the middle of the day.
Do you suggest that he should have a firearm, just in case? Should he sit there watching TV with the gun on his lap? Pity any Jehovah's Witnesses or delivery guys who might knock at the door...

Ding, could you get one of those personal safety alarms for your FIL, for him to wear around his neck. Round here they cost about £20 a month and are monitored 24/7.
In the event of an emergency he would just press the button on the necklace and the base station automatically dials the alarm company, they then either ask your FIL if he is okay or they listen in, silently, to what is potentially happening ie intruders and can contact the police.

As well as the necklace they also supply PIR's for the doors etc so works like a burglar alarm when he is asleep. Plus if he is/ gets frail and happened to have a fall he wouldn't have to worry about getting to a telephone.
Even if he never had to use it might be worth his peace of mind, I expect he is feeling very vulnerable at the moment.

daviee

Mate of mine got broken into a few days after he put his car in for a MOT his house keys were in the ashtray, his house had no forced entry (no proof of garage connection). He was nightshift at the time, so it was during the day slept right through it all a blessing. Was about this time last year and they stole all his wrapped xmas presents as well as the usual goodies. So he awakes calls the police few hours later CID arrive, he goes to make them a cuppa and notices the kettle is full to the brim. The CID officer says standard practice, first thing they do is fill the kettle boil it and if you awake and go to see what the noise is downstairs in your boxes shorts you are greeted with the contents of your boiled kettle thrown over you. So this is the way they think, they don’t give a **** is you are scarred for life mentally as well as physically. SCUM

TelBoy

Rather be carried by 6 than judged by 12, that's pure Hollywood

Maz

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I suspect Shreksta may need more than six to carry him.

Leslie

I would set our cat on them. We found him at 3 weeks under the hedge and brought him indoors to keep as a pet.

He is very self assertive and I would not give much for their chances.

Les

yellowvanman

From experience that is very true.

I came home to find 2 burglars in our house, (the dogs where with me, so not guarding), they had locked the front door, I saw through the glass they rushed to the back of the house, i'm a 16st builder and wanted to catch / teach them a lesson, ran round the back of the house to confront them. I got to the garden gate just as they did, and went to grab one of them, at that moment he lashed out at me with a knife, which went across my face, missing me by an inch or so! Well at that point any thoughts of being a hero vanished and they got away.
So any of the have a go hero's until you have been there, you really don't know what you would do. I was furious with myself afterwards, but upon reflection, it was the correct thing to do.
As Ding said earlier, the possessions where all insured and replaced, and we got the leaded light window remade on the front door, worth the risk of personal harm, or going to prison.........? I don't think so.

Dingdongler

Thanks for all the replies.

Personally I agree with bigdog, yvm and others. I can't see myself being able to get myself organised in the middle of the night when the worst happens, locate the gun, load it and then potentially use it. You would really need guns hidden all around the house to ensure you could get to one easily depending on when you were 'invaded'

No matter how many times I practice this in my mind, unless you do it everyday as a drill (like the military/police) it's never going to be second nature.

And as I've said I have no intention or desire to protect or fight for my material possessions. They are all insured and none of them are worth my life or limb. Personally I think anybody who does this is misguided. Fight to the death for your family/loved ones, but anything else is just silly.

Thanks for the suggestions about the alert system for my fil, I'll look into this for him tomorrow.

A dog would be a very good idea. As a child I grew up in a very rough inner city and we kept a German Shephard, no one ever attempted to break in. I always feel guilty though as the dog never got as much attention/exercise as it deserved, I don't want to do this again. I need to think hard about whether I can give a dog the time and attention it needs.

I have some weak points in terms of home security, I need to address those first I think.

Thanks again.

P1Fanatic

Lmao. Yep I look forward to reading this guide as well

Turbohot

Sorry to know about the unfortunate incident, Ding. Hope your FIL is ok and the perps get caught.