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Old 07 December 2012, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by greenonedave
Blame is the last emotion that I feel at the moment, for what ever reason caused this womens desperate last act, there are 2 kids with no mum tonight.
That I find very sad.
Agree, one daft call has ended with such tragic consequences. Very sad.
Old 07 December 2012, 09:28 PM
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Well I'm sat here listening, but for some reason I can't hear any Aussie Journos laughing any more.
Old 07 December 2012, 10:02 PM
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It has to be MI5 who did it. classic hanging suicide.
Old 07 December 2012, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Tragic, but, ffs, most people can take a joke, there must have been underlying issues for someone to take their own life based on being tricked by some Australian DJ's, I suspect she may have been slightly delicate but also probably made to feel terrible by her management for the Faux Pas and could see no other way out.

The sad thing is, it was a wind up, she got caught out and thought she was doing the right thing but the royal connection turned it into a minor media frenzy.
Spot on .....
Old 07 December 2012, 10:11 PM
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At least Steve Penk's career is over, thank god
Old 07 December 2012, 10:12 PM
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She was not British, other cultures react differently to global shame and ridicule
Old 07 December 2012, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
I doubt it would have had as much effect on her , if any at all , if the press hadnt have made such a big deal of the phone call . Radio pranks happen all the time , yet the press made out that the call was the worst thing in the world. I wonder how many reporters try to bluff their way through the phone system to get a bit of info ? They were just spiteful coz they didnt get there 1st.
Don't worry as they won't get away with stuff like this for much longer as Cameron is going to implemnet the Leveson recommendations...... ah no he isn't is he becuase they are fine just the way they are
Old 07 December 2012, 11:35 PM
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The Aussie DJs have been suspended from their jobs as a result of the death of the nurse.
Source ITV news.
Old 08 December 2012, 12:03 AM
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Dont you just love a huge Knee jerk reaction.

Get a grip people, based on some supposition and a few news snippets,

This thread has turned into a witch hunt.

Why should the DJ's loose there jobs? I can remember laughing my head off every morning as radio DJ's as they spoof phone called people?

Fonejacker does this all the time, and i'm sure many on here also find that hilarious,

How many people didnt laugh at this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&h...&v=-7OgWcwgB50



All this does, is fuel the wrong agenda's. which could have futher

ramifications that you wont be so chipper about in the future.

Were still trying to get rid of PC and a lack of common sense, not open the door wider.

Until the true facts are known, all we can do is offer sympathy for the family left behind,


Mart
Old 08 December 2012, 01:05 AM
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It's sad she did what she did but the DJ's did nothing wrong in my opinion. If we have to live our lives wondering if a joke/prank/disciplinary/sacking/divorce might tip someone pre-disposed to suicide into action then we might as well all stop communicating right now.

Humour is a release. I have a colleague at work who has had a crappy year. Death of step father, house destroyed by fire and now his daughter has been diagnosed with cancer. (Thankfully early stage and treatable). He's an absolute rock though. We've had a few chats and he's obviously concerned about the impact of things but he still appreciates a well timed pisstake. I guess it says more about me though, knowing WHEN it's appropriate.

Empathy is a valuable asset.
Old 08 December 2012, 07:28 AM
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Prank calls have one purpose, to cause discomfort and embarrassment for one party to the gratification and entertainment of the other.

Just remember that two children have lost their mum just ahead of Christmas.
Old 08 December 2012, 08:19 AM
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Not sure where i sit with this one.
The phone call should never have been made as it was an invasion of privacy but as it's breaking no laws.................
If it was actually suicide (was that confirmed?) then the Lady involved must have had a small screw loose somewhere to top herself over this!
Old 08 December 2012, 08:34 AM
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From reading reports on the BBC it appears the Aussies don't know if they've broken any laws or not as of yet.
Not sure I agree with the small screw loose statement as we can't imagine the personnal pressure this whole incident had put on the nurse in question.
To leave a family I can only imagine her torment was too extreme for her personality to handle, unfortunately.
As we all know, we are all different and she may have been a very sensitive woman, who knows.......
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Originally Posted by Brun
Not sure where i sit with this one.
The phone call should never have been made as it was an invasion of privacy but as it's breaking no laws.................
If it was actually suicide (was that confirmed?) then the Lady involved must have had a small screw loose somewhere to top herself over this!
Old 08 December 2012, 08:38 AM
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Fair enough two kids lost their mother but I can't believe how big a story this is being made into. She only took the call and passed onto a colleague who divulged the personal info so there must be more to it than meets the eye.

If I call a local hospital to find out about a friends condition you dont get told anything yet someone calling for the royals gets answers just because they put on voices of the Queen and Prince Charles.

Mountain out of a molehill if ever there was one.
Old 08 December 2012, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
From reading reports on the BBC it appears the Aussies don't know if they've broken any laws or not as of yet.
Not sure I agree with the small screw loose statement as we can't imagine the personnal pressure this whole incident had put on the nurse in question.
To leave a family I can only imagine her torment was too extreme for her personality to handle, unfortunately.
As we all know, we are all different and she may have been a very sensitive woman, who knows.......
Nik
By the same token you know nothing about her state of mind before the hoax either. If she was the person who gave the information out then I could imagine a certainly level of stress but not just for transferring a call to a colleague.

Rule 101 of dealing with personal information is that its the person handing out the informations responsibility to verify who they are giving it to and surely there is no way to do that over a phone.
Old 08 December 2012, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
From reading reports on the BBC it appears the Aussies don't know if they've broken any laws or not as of yet.
Not sure I agree with the small screw loose statement as we can't imagine the personnal pressure this whole incident had put on the nurse in question.
To leave a family I can only imagine her torment was too extreme for her personality to handle, unfortunately.
As we all know, we are all different and she may have been a very sensitive woman, who knows.......
Nik
Anyone who commits suicide must have a small screw loose somewhere imo. I have little or no sympathy for anyone who does it due to the devastation it leaves behind.
Old 08 December 2012, 09:35 AM
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I dare say was more going on in this woman's life for her to commit suicide over a prank call.
If that is what happened ?
Old 08 December 2012, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by belliott69
Wouldn't giving out a patients personal details be a sackable offence, maybe she couldn't take that. Very sad news though especially for her two young children.
Being a senior manager within the NHS managing security and fraud, yes this potentially would be a disciplinary offence for breach of information governance passing on patients' details. Having said that, the Trust concerned are at fault for not having policy and procedures in place to prevent this kind of thing from happening where VIP's or celebrities are concerned. IMO the blame, so to speak should rest with the Trust Board.

My sincere condolences to the friends, family and colleagues of the nurse who was nothing but a victim in this tragic affair.

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Old 08 December 2012, 11:23 AM
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It was a pretty mean thing to do anyway (even if the nurse hadn't killed herself) the fact that they were using a sick, pregnant, woman just for 'entertainment'. What if Kate Middleton had had a miscarriage? would it still have been amusing to them? No matter who she is she does deserve some privacy and respect at a vulnerable time.

Re the nurse killing herself; I can remember making an error at work and feeling absolutely mortified for days afterwards. I can't imagine if that error had then been broadcast all over the world with everyone either laughing at me or calling for me to be sacked. Even the sanest person would struggle with that surely?
At the end of the day the nurse wasn't a celebrity, she didn't ask to be caught up in a media circus, this time last week she was just a normal person going about her business. Poor woman
Old 08 December 2012, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lydia72
Re the nurse killing herself; I can remember making an error at work and feeling absolutely mortified for days afterwards. I can't imagine if that error had then been broadcast all over the world with everyone either laughing at me or calling for me to be sacked. Even the sanest person would struggle with that surely?
not in scoobynet world

she was just a weak person who was about to top herself at any moment

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Old 08 December 2012, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lydia72
Re the nurse killing herself; I can remember making an error at work and feeling absolutely mortified for days afterwards. I can't imagine if that error had then been broadcast all over the world with everyone either laughing at me or calling for me to be sacked. Even the sanest person would struggle with that surely?
At the end of the day the nurse wasn't a celebrity, she didn't ask to be caught up in a media circus, this time last week she was just a normal person going about her business. Poor woman
Whilst it's a sad story it's hardly something to even consider topping yourself over ... I couldn't give a flying f*ck what other people think about me as it's not something I can control. Worry about sh*t that you can do something about not sh*t that you can't.

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Old 08 December 2012, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lydia72
It was a pretty mean thing to do anyway (even if the nurse hadn't killed herself) the fact that they were using a sick, pregnant, woman just for 'entertainment'. What if Kate Middleton had had a miscarriage? would it still have been amusing to them? No matter who she is she does deserve some privacy and respect at a vulnerable time.

Re the nurse killing herself; I can remember making an error at work and feeling absolutely mortified for days afterwards. I can't imagine if that error had then been broadcast all over the world with everyone either laughing at me or calling for me to be sacked. Even the sanest person would struggle with that surely?
At the end of the day the nurse wasn't a celebrity, she didn't ask to be caught up in a media circus, this time last week she was just a normal person going about her business. Poor woman
Absolutely correct.

The issue is some smart git thinking it's funny as a wind up in the first place.
"Pranks" have no place when perpetrated by untouchable media on ordinary people who have no right of reply.
I was listening to an Aussie politician this morning who said that the rules over there insist that anybody whose voice is recorded without knowing about it should be given the right of veto before broadcast. They obviously thought they were so "cutting edge funny" they could just dispense with that.

I tell you it's bad enough sometimes when somebody publicly has a go at you online without justification even when you can fight back, and I certainly can.
When you come from a different culture where respect and position is everything, it's a different matter.
The effects of what appears on the face of it to be nothing went out on Twitter, Facebook, TV and radio media and the press.
Were they camped outside her door? what do you think?

I can't imagine a more extreme reaction than Suicide, and of course you can't blame inexperienced and childish DJ's for it. I do blame them for not following normal rules based on common decency, and for not having any kind of insight into how a disregard for someone's feelings can turn out.
Old 08 December 2012, 01:35 PM
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FWIW

http://www.2dayfm.com.au/listen/
Old 08 December 2012, 03:04 PM
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It's worked for the station though, everyone is talking about it!
Old 08 December 2012, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
It's worked for the station though, everyone is talking about it!
True, although I'm sure Gary Glitter's publicist would agree not all news is good?
Old 08 December 2012, 03:33 PM
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Saw the DJ's guffawing like excited little children immediately after the so called prank on Sky news. It was really quite pathetic to watch, like being back in the classroom in 1971 aged 11.

They won't be guffawing now that's for sure, with careers in broadcasting disappearing overnight.
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As childish as pranks like this are to all those decrying the DJs, radio staton etc. where were you all BEFORE this woman killed herself? Why no criticism then? It was on the news so you can't say you didn't know about it. Easy to be judgemental after the event!
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yea they did it , like they did dianna !
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Considering the amount of tiresome **** covering that goes on here all the time nowadays, my first thought when I heard about this was that the management in the hospital were probably hanging her out to dry to escape any blame themselves with regards to the original divulging of information.

As far as the prank goes, that's all it should have been. Whether you find it funny or not it was just trivial nonsense.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
As childish as pranks like this are to all those decrying the DJs, radio staton etc. where were you all BEFORE this woman killed herself? Why no criticism then? It was on the news so you can't say you didn't know about it. Easy to be judgemental after the event!
So putting a comment on NSR is going to change the world is it? I think you will find this cruel world thinks nothing of the opinions of us keyboard warriors on NSR.


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