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Old 08 December 2012, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
So putting a comment on NSR is going to change the world is it? I think you will find this cruel world thinks nothing of the opinions of us keyboard warriors on NSR.
If the world took any notice of what most of the posters write on here it would be an even sh1ttier place!
Old 09 December 2012, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
Oh come on people, of course it is connected.
You are very quick to criticise! At the time of those posts it had not been announced that she took her own life.

Did you have inside information?

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Old 09 December 2012, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
If the world took any notice of what most of the posters write on here it would be an even sh1ttier place!
Yeah, but on the plus side, there'd be peace in the Middle East
Old 10 December 2012, 11:28 AM
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I may be behind the times but I see the DJs involved have been crying crocodile tears (probably told by their publicist) in a Sky interview.

Or am I too sceptical?
Old 10 December 2012, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
I may be behind the times but I see the DJs involved have been crying crocodile tears [B](probably told by their publicist) [B
Or am I too sceptical?
That wouldn't be Max Clifford, would it?

As tragic as it is and my condolences to all affected by this terrible event, it really was a massive over reaction to take her own life over what was a pretty ordinary, albeit silly, prank.

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Originally Posted by JohnD
That wouldn't be Max Clifford, would it?

As tragic as it is and my condolences to all affected by this terrible event, it really was a massive over reaction to take her own life over what was a pretty ordinary, albeit silly, prank.

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Folowed by a massive over reaction by the British media who are still conducting their witch hunt this morning... pathetic! Maybe they'll be happy when the DJs top themselves
Old 10 December 2012, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Folowed by a massive over reaction by the British media who are still conducting their witch hunt this morning... pathetic! Maybe they'll be happy when the DJs top themselves
It does seem to be leading itself that way doesn't it Chris

Then when/if they do, hazaaar!! The Sun has another front page headline.

Vicious circle all orchestrated for the selling of newspapers IMHO.

But I still think the Germans were involved
Old 10 December 2012, 11:48 AM
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I imagine there's been a catalogue of events that lead up to her decision to end her life. I doubt the sole reason was due to the prank call. But very sad all the same.
Old 10 December 2012, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnD
it really was a massive over reaction to take her own life over what was a pretty ordinary, albeit silly, prank.
That's what I thought too.
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
It does seem to be leading itself that way doesn't it Chris

Then when/if they do, hazaaar!! The Sun has another front page headline.

Vicious circle all orchestrated for the selling of newspapers IMHO.

But I still think the Germans were involved
And MI5
Old 10 December 2012, 12:30 PM
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and Prince Philip...
Old 10 December 2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
You are very quick to criticise! At the time of those posts it had not been announced that she took her own life.

Did you have inside information?

Les
Connected as in she received a prank call, she was the one that put the call through and now she is dead.
May be she was just so embarresed, I don't know.

What I am saying is that if the call hadn't been made, the chances are that she would still be a live today.

Old 10 December 2012, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
What I am saying is that if the call hadn't been made, the chances are that she would still be a live today.
Yes, but that is like saying if the bridge over the river hadn't been there then no one would have been able to jump off!
Old 10 December 2012, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes, but that is like saying if the bridge over the river hadn't been there then no one would have been able to jump off!
No it isn't. Les was questioning my comments regarding her death being connected with the phone prank. It isn't rocket science.

Whether you like it or not, the Aussy DJ's contributed to her death. End of.

Yes, she may have had issues that already existed, but everyone has a limit. This was hers I guess.
Old 10 December 2012, 01:36 PM
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One thing I've noticed about this whole affair is nobody is asking what the hospital management said to this nurse after the recording was aired

You can bet it wasn't anything good
Old 10 December 2012, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
No it isn't. Les was questioning my comments regarding her death being connected with the phone prank. It isn't rocket science.

Whether you like it or not, the Aussy DJ's contributed to her death. End of.

Yes, she may have had issues that already existed, but everyone has a limit. This was hers I guess.
It isn't rocket science you're right, yet you still seem unable to grasp the situation with any form of logic. You're blaming the bridge builder not the factors that drove the person to jump off said bridge.

A thousand other people could have taken that prank call and not committed suicide so how is it anything to do with the DJs other than circumstance?

If you really want to root around for someone else to blame (in true modern society fashion) then look at the press reaction to the prank... but even then it isn't realy their fault either!
Old 10 December 2012, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
It isn't rocket science you're right, yet you still seem unable to grasp the situation with any form of logic. You're blaming the bridge builder not the factors that drove the person to jump off said bridge.

A thousand other people could have taken that prank call and not committed suicide so how is it anything to do with the DJs other than circumstance?

If you really want to root around for someone else to blame (in true modern society fashion) then look at the press reaction to the prank... but even then it isn't realy their fault either!
I'm not so sure.
She was a medical professional, who was duped into breaching patient confidentiality for a few cheap laughs.
Because it involves the Royal family it is all over the papers.
She can quite easily expect to be disciplined at work and expect to end up before her professional body with a view to determining if she is fit to practice.
There are perhaps a few cultural issues that we may be unaware of when it comes to people from her neck of the woods working away from home.
It was just a stupid poorly thought out prank, that was always going to cause problems for the recipient if it was successful.
And so it goes.
ps I thought the apologies of the DJs had something of the spoof about them - was pretty hard to keep a straight face watching that.
Old 10 December 2012, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cster
I'm not so sure.
She was a medical professional, who was duped into breaching patient confidentiality for a few cheap laughs.
Because it involves the Royal family it is all over the papers.
She can quite easily expect to be disciplined at work and expect to end up before her professional body with a view to determining if she is fit to practice.
There are perhaps a few cultural issues that we may be unaware of when it comes to people from her neck of the woods working away from home.
It was just a stupid poorly thought out prank, that was always going to cause problems for the recipient if it was successful.
And so it goes.
ps I thought the apologies of the DJs had something of the spoof about them - was pretty hard to keep a straight face watching that.
You'd have to say,what a munter the sheila was!
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Originally Posted by cster
I'm not so sure.
She was a medical professional, who was duped into breaching patient confidentiality for a few cheap laughs.
Because it involves the Royal family it is all over the papers.
She can quite easily expect to be disciplined at work and expect to end up before her professional body with a view to determining if she is fit to practice.
There are perhaps a few cultural issues that we may be unaware of when it comes to people from her neck of the woods working away from home.
It was just a stupid poorly thought out prank, that was always going to cause problems for the recipient if it was successful.
And so it goes.
ps I thought the apologies of the DJs had something of the spoof about them - was pretty hard to keep a straight face watching that.
OK let me ask you this. If it was such a bad, ill thought out prank how come no one condemend it BEFORE the nurse died? Even Prince Charles joked about it!

Strikes me it is yet another example of the blame culture we have these days. Perosnally I think pranks like that are stupid, but even I have trouble attributing any direct blame on the DJs involved! As said a thousand other people could have had the prank played on them and not taken their own life! The press and all who take notice of it are looking for blame in all the wrong places IMO!
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
Connected as in she received a prank call, she was the one that put the call through and now she is dead.
May be she was just so embarresed, I don't know.

What I am saying is that if the call hadn't been made, the chances are that she would still be a live today.

Yes that is true of course, but at the time we did not know whether her death was connected with the phone call, they did not say that it was at the time, or whether she died from natural causes coincidentally. She was just reported to have died.

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Old 10 December 2012, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cster
She can quite easily expect to be disciplined at work and expect to end up before her professional body with a view to determining if she is fit to practice.
The hospital said that she hadn't been disciplined, and nor was she going to be.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Yes that is true of course, but at the time we did not know whether her death was connected with the phone call, they did not say that it was at the time, or whether she died from natural causes coincidentally.
To be fair Les we still don't know that 100%!
Old 10 December 2012, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
The hospital said that she hadn't been disciplined, and nor was she going to be.
Did they tell her that though?
Bit irrelevant otherwise.
Old 10 December 2012, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
OK let me ask you this. If it was such a bad, ill thought out prank how come no one condemend it BEFORE the nurse died? Even Prince Charles joked about it!

Strikes me it is yet another example of the blame culture we have these days. Perosnally I think pranks like that are stupid, but even I have trouble attributing any direct blame on the DJs involved! As said a thousand other people could have had the prank played on them and not taken their own life! The press and all who take notice of it are looking for blame in all the wrong places IMO!
Prince Charles is hardly the brightest person on the planet, and neither are the sort of people who are amused by this type of jape.
I am glad to see you do not consider yourself among them.
It is interesting to look at the "blame culture" aspect of this, because it is also a good example of peoples wish to avoid personal responsibility for the consequences of their own actions.
All very "An Inspector Calls".
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
OK let me ask you this. If it was such a bad, ill thought out prank how come no one condemend it BEFORE the nurse died? Even Prince Charles joked about it!

Strikes me it is yet another example of the blame culture we have these days. Perosnally I think pranks like that are stupid, but even I have trouble attributing any direct blame on the DJs involved! As said a thousand other people could have had the prank played on them and not taken their own life! The press and all who take notice of it are looking for blame in all the wrong places IMO!

I think you are way off the mark which is surprising coming from you who claims to understand and promote our multicultural environment and is able to play the racist card and label people as racist at the drop of a hat.

Surely you must realise that people from different cultures and ethnic backgrounds are affected in different ways by different events.

This lady, having been cruelly duped may have experienced an incredible sense of failure, low self-worth or self-esteem leading to depression that she was unable to recover from.
Us Brits seem to have the capability of making light and seeing the bright side in any situation, sometimes even tragic situations. Some cultures are not like that particularly people from differing cultures struggling to make a life for themselves and their families in this country.
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There is no one to blame for her death except herself! She performed a selfish act . Simples.

However, I still feel the secret services did her over for being an illegal immigrant.
Old 10 December 2012, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
One thing I've noticed about this whole affair is nobody is asking what the hospital management said to this nurse after the recording was aired

You can bet it wasn't anything good
I can imagine that they were doign a lot of Basil Fawlty style cringing anf fawning to the Royal Couple, who probably either didnt give a toss or thought it was mildly amusing, especially is it took the mick out of their parents/grandparents. The management will have gone into full obsequious overdrive and when not busy hand wringing they were probably berating the nurse for causing a minor faux pas that would have been forgotten by now had she not killed herself.

I think the DJ's probably do genuinely feel very sorry but to be fair it was a wind up, it is what DJ's do and generally people dont kill themselves, she must have had issues anyway as well balanced people dont commit suicide for a silly wind up, they can be very embarassed but that in itself isnt grounds for suicide, Paedos get outed which is a one way trip to being a complete pariah in society, getting caught out like that, as a joke, most people would sympathise as we all know we have the potential for it to happen to us.

Almost feels like the nurse had a fit of pique and topped herself to get back at the DJ's, the management and anyone who laughed.

Imagine if Pete topped himself every time someone took the **** !
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Originally Posted by J4CKO

Imagine if Pete topped himself every time someone took the **** !
No comment.
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Very sad, but at end of day it was a prank call, there is probablly thousands made on air everyday and we all get a good laugh at hearing them, but then something like this happens..
The woman obviously had some other underlying issues and the prank call was just a triggering point,
She only put the call through to the other Nurse, who went and gave all the info out, so if anyone was going to feel bad, surely it would have been the 2nd nurse.


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