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13 December 2012, 02:43 PM
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I don't have a problem with immigration as long as it's a proper controlled system like Australia’s, point scoring through skills or money in the bank
There shouldn't be one asylum seeker in the UK, as to claim asylum you go to the nearest safe country, so unless they are from Ireland, France, Holland or the like then the UK is not the nearest safe country
The biggest problem by far though is that too many are allowed in at the same time and in the same area, this then in turn allows them to take over areas rather than integrate into society, creating no go areas for other people
There shouldn't be one asylum seeker in the UK, as to claim asylum you go to the nearest safe country, so unless they are from Ireland, France, Holland or the like then the UK is not the nearest safe country
The biggest problem by far though is that too many are allowed in at the same time and in the same area, this then in turn allows them to take over areas rather than integrate into society, creating no go areas for other people
13 December 2012, 06:23 PM
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Explain what you mean by the expression 'cloud your view' then? How is that not saying it is anything but an incorrect point of view?
No, but then that is not what is being debated at this point. I am not saying I agree with CoB or yourself on the immigration issue, but you are saying that CoB was condescending first in this thread and I am pointing out that in my view (no doubt clouded of course) it was in fact you that started it! Once we have this sorted out we can get back to the issue in hand so apologise and we can all move on
No, but then that is not what is being debated at this point. I am not saying I agree with CoB or yourself on the immigration issue, but you are saying that CoB was condescending first in this thread and I am pointing out that in my view (no doubt clouded of course) it was in fact you that started it! Once we have this sorted out we can get back to the issue in hand so apologise and we can all move on
You two have got me confused now, usually the pair of you are dealing out a full pack of race cards to anyone who dares to criticise immigration.
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13 December 2012, 06:59 PM
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Get over yourself mate, Scunthorpe has always been a sh7thole long before your friends the EEs moved in. That's reflected in the property prices there, you'd struggle to get a garage in some parts of London for your average house price in Scunny.
There is a reason for that, nobody wants to live there. Plenty of people from all around the world want to live in London.
I'm not in a position to say what effect the EEs have had on Scunny, I'll have to take your word for it. However it was always a turd hole, maybe it's now an even bigger turd hole.
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13 December 2012, 07:08 PM
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Get over yourself mate, Scunthorpe has always been a sh7thole long before your friends the EEs moved in. That's reflected in the property prices there, you'd struggle to get a garage in some parts of London for your average house price in Scunny.
There is a reason for that, nobody wants to live there. Plenty of people from all around the world want to live in London.
I'm not in a position to say what effect the EEs have had on Scunny, I'll have to take your word for it. However it was always a turd hole, maybe it's now an even bigger turd hole.
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There is a reason for that, nobody wants to live there. Plenty of people from all around the world want to live in London.
I'm not in a position to say what effect the EEs have had on Scunny, I'll have to take your word for it. However it was always a turd hole, maybe it's now an even bigger turd hole.
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I prefer the term 'value for money' over sh1thole with regards to property prices
London is more expensive as it's the capital city (like most capital cities are more expensive).
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13 December 2012, 07:56 PM
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I prefer the term 'value for money' over sh1thole with regards to property prices
London is more expensive as it's the capital city (like most capital cities are more expensive).
Note the ( ) smiley which is a signal for banter before you go off on one again about the above
London is more expensive as it's the capital city (like most capital cities are more expensive).
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) smiley which is a signal for banter before you go off on one again about the above Andy, as I mentioned earlier I wouldn't want to call anybodies hometown a dive. As somebody who is basically London born and bred I feel a little offended when people call it a dirty s6thole. Hence my reaction.
London like all major Cities has plenty of problems but it also has many redeeming features. To paint it as just a big dirty cesspit where white people are scared to go is just plain nonsense.
But then I'm pretty sure you know all that already.
Anyway, the biggest problem with Scunny residents is their god awful taste in trance music
13 December 2012, 09:18 PM
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There's a program on bbc now featuring a family living in squalor because they got evicted from their house because of non-payment of mortgage.
While the immigrants are living in properties worth millions for free
While the immigrants are living in properties worth millions for free
13 December 2012, 09:37 PM
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Two stories that illustrate London in the last 25 years
I was born in central London, and grew up, lived, partied, had children in west London for the first 40 years of my life (and London was and still is the greatest city on earth)
What an amazing time I had
Anyway, during my teens and early 20,s we used to go to firework displays, put on in the private gardens of Ladbroke Grove (we all knew/had parents that lived on Elgin Crescent/Clarendon Road/Kensington Park Road etc) and all the (old English) families that had houses backing onto the gardens would do a little private soiree with a communal shindig in the gardens (fireworks / bonfire etc)
It was a local tradition on an important national day – but one evening, in 1986, as the massive bonfire was lit and jacket potatoes where handed out - someone started to make a speech, he wittered on about things, but the basic thrust was that we should all be very grateful, this did not come cheap, next year they would be looking to charge (and now to this day you have to pay)
But the really funny thing was he was an American (the first tranche of the foreign invasion that has seen every single family house in the area bought by American bankers, not surprisingly as they sell for a minmum of 4 million quid now)
can you imagine an englishman making the same speech in America, on a July 4th celebration - no thought not
Roll forward 25 years and I was on a bus on the Marylebone Road, as I stood on the crowded bus all I could hear was foreign languages and foreign looking people (East African East European etc)
I looked over and saw an old west Indian gentleman sitting down and thought “fvck me you and I are the only indigenous Londoners on this bus” – and then it occurred to me that all the Eastern Europeans are cleaning and working as nannies for the American I saw at Fireworks night all those years ago
But I am still a proud Londoner, love diversity – the greatest city on earth (apart from Tooting and Balham they are **** holes)
and if you idiots in scunthorpe still have time old familly traditions that you honour and celebrate (with a chip butty "n" gravy), you should'nt just be afraid of the EE, when the bankers move in you really are fvcked, it will cost a fortune and you will have to suffer gazpacho and guacamole dip <smiley face>
I was born in central London, and grew up, lived, partied, had children in west London for the first 40 years of my life (and London was and still is the greatest city on earth)
What an amazing time I had
Anyway, during my teens and early 20,s we used to go to firework displays, put on in the private gardens of Ladbroke Grove (we all knew/had parents that lived on Elgin Crescent/Clarendon Road/Kensington Park Road etc) and all the (old English) families that had houses backing onto the gardens would do a little private soiree with a communal shindig in the gardens (fireworks / bonfire etc)
It was a local tradition on an important national day – but one evening, in 1986, as the massive bonfire was lit and jacket potatoes where handed out - someone started to make a speech, he wittered on about things, but the basic thrust was that we should all be very grateful, this did not come cheap, next year they would be looking to charge (and now to this day you have to pay)
But the really funny thing was he was an American (the first tranche of the foreign invasion that has seen every single family house in the area bought by American bankers, not surprisingly as they sell for a minmum of 4 million quid now)
can you imagine an englishman making the same speech in America, on a July 4th celebration - no thought not
Roll forward 25 years and I was on a bus on the Marylebone Road, as I stood on the crowded bus all I could hear was foreign languages and foreign looking people (East African East European etc)
I looked over and saw an old west Indian gentleman sitting down and thought “fvck me you and I are the only indigenous Londoners on this bus” – and then it occurred to me that all the Eastern Europeans are cleaning and working as nannies for the American I saw at Fireworks night all those years ago
But I am still a proud Londoner, love diversity – the greatest city on earth (apart from Tooting and Balham they are **** holes)
and if you idiots in scunthorpe still have time old familly traditions that you honour and celebrate (with a chip butty "n" gravy), you should'nt just be afraid of the EE, when the bankers move in you really are fvcked, it will cost a fortune and you will have to suffer gazpacho and guacamole dip <smiley face>
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13 December 2012, 09:44 PM
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So fair enough, the family couldn't keep up with the mortgage payments, but what's the reasoning behind eviction, putting them out on the street and making them homeless while at the same time putting the immigrants up in properties worth millions?
In London they were paying £250 a week to stay in a grotty hostel, ok it's expensive in London, but why should people who have lived there all of their lives, who's parents and grandparents have lived there be priced out of their locality?
In London they were paying £250 a week to stay in a grotty hostel, ok it's expensive in London, but why should people who have lived there all of their lives, who's parents and grandparents have lived there be priced out of their locality?
13 December 2012, 09:54 PM
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I mean hell, the Father is working full time as a bus driver, it's not as if he's a benefit scrounger, it just goes to show, many people are a wage away from the gutter!!!
13 December 2012, 10:10 PM
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13 December 2012, 10:21 PM
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13 December 2012, 10:33 PM
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No, that's because London generates most of the money and investment in this country and then subsidises places like S****horpe. If it didn't Scunthorpe would be an even bigger sh1thole than it already is
It's probably the tax revenue from immigrants in London paying for unemployed white people in Scunthorpe to sit on their a88ses, claim dole and still have free NHS and education (not that they use much of the latter
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13 December 2012, 11:15 PM
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Not up here there isn't.
We've just recently been told to expect to wait four to five years to see the green shoots up here.
London doesn't generate wealth, it sucks wealth from the rest of us.
Money is spent there instead of sharing it out.
Investment is made there instead of sharing it out.
And THEN they have the temerity to moan about overcrowded transport and lack of water...not that most of them wash, judging by the smell on the tube.
We've just recently been told to expect to wait four to five years to see the green shoots up here.London doesn't generate wealth, it sucks wealth from the rest of us.
Money is spent there instead of sharing it out.
Investment is made there instead of sharing it out.
And THEN they have the temerity to moan about overcrowded transport and lack of water...not that most of them wash, judging by the smell on the tube.
14 December 2012, 12:38 AM
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Not up here there isn't. We've just recently been told to expect to wait four to five years to see the green shoots up here.
London doesn't generate wealth, it sucks wealth from the rest of us.
Money is spent there instead of sharing it out.
Investment is made there instead of sharing it out.
And THEN they have the temerity to moan about overcrowded transport and lack of water...not that most of them wash, judging by the smell on the tube.
We've just recently been told to expect to wait four to five years to see the green shoots up here.London doesn't generate wealth, it sucks wealth from the rest of us.
Money is spent there instead of sharing it out.
Investment is made there instead of sharing it out.
And THEN they have the temerity to moan about overcrowded transport and lack of water...not that most of them wash, judging by the smell on the tube.
You do your own argument no favours with nonsense like this
14 December 2012, 07:30 AM
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Not up here there isn't. We've just recently been told to expect to wait four to five years to see the green shoots up here.
London doesn't generate wealth, it sucks wealth from the rest of us.
Money is spent there instead of sharing it out.
Investment is made there instead of sharing it out.
And THEN they have the temerity to moan about overcrowded transport and lack of water...not that most of them wash, judging by the smell on the tube.
We've just recently been told to expect to wait four to five years to see the green shoots up here.London doesn't generate wealth, it sucks wealth from the rest of us.
Money is spent there instead of sharing it out.
Investment is made there instead of sharing it out.
And THEN they have the temerity to moan about overcrowded transport and lack of water...not that most of them wash, judging by the smell on the tube.
The market will always go with the line of least resistance
14 December 2012, 09:33 AM
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We have several sets of friends who live in London - it's a whole different world down there, you could be in another country, not just in the people, the outlook, way of life, shops, careers etc.
There is definately a 'London Bubble' for sure.
There is definately a 'London Bubble' for sure.
14 December 2012, 09:58 AM
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14 December 2012, 10:39 AM
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I watched a bout at Butlins in Minehead when I was a kid. I can't recall the names of the wrestlers, but I am able to remember being immeasurably exited and hoarse from shouting for weeks afterwards. My father mocked me for shouting at the baddy and then running away when he turned around and shouted back!
14 December 2012, 11:04 AM
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Not up here there isn't. We've just recently been told to expect to wait four to five years to see the green shoots up here.
London doesn't generate wealth, it sucks wealth from the rest of us.
Money is spent there instead of sharing it out.
Investment is made there instead of sharing it out.
And THEN they have the temerity to moan about overcrowded transport and lack of water...not that most of them wash, judging by the smell on the tube.
We've just recently been told to expect to wait four to five years to see the green shoots up here.London doesn't generate wealth, it sucks wealth from the rest of us.
Money is spent there instead of sharing it out.
Investment is made there instead of sharing it out.
And THEN they have the temerity to moan about overcrowded transport and lack of water...not that most of them wash, judging by the smell on the tube.
1) Overcrowded transport? For sure, but where is all the future improvement coming? You guessed it London/SE. Heard of crossrail? The biggest investment in rail infrastructure since the Victorians.
2) Lack of water?? I've just turned on my tap and as always there was a plentiful supply of water.
3) The smell on the tube? It's the smell of sweat and hard graft, no wonder you didn't know what it was
14 December 2012, 12:43 PM
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I watched a bout at Butlins in Minehead when I was a kid. I can't recall the names of the wrestlers, but I am able to remember being immeasurably exited and hoarse from shouting for weeks afterwards. My father mocked me for shouting at the baddy and then running away when he turned around and shouted back!
Easy! Easy! Easy!