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I remember going to Barry about 1980 on several occasions loved it.
I am hoping to get to Barrow Hill soon.
I have a few nice evening shots off the bank over Tinsley - I will see if I can dig them out
50007 at Old Oak Common
http://www.flickr.com/photos/d210bob/6964846900/
I am hoping to get to Barrow Hill soon.
I have a few nice evening shots off the bank over Tinsley - I will see if I can dig them out
50007 at Old Oak Common
http://www.flickr.com/photos/d210bob/6964846900/
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I guess it was all down to us moving away from an industrial economy and not needing the sheer volume of locos to move stuff. We lost alot of engineering skills with it.
Privatisation was the final nail in the coffin and that is when we saw alot of sheds just go. The private companies were often no longer looking at the longevity of locos, but running them into the ground ect. And the shorter term bottom line.
This sums it up nationwide -
Bristol Bath Road then
http://www.flickr.com/photos/barry13092/3999161414/
Bristol Bath Road now
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbrailphotos/5898581668/
Privatisation was the final nail in the coffin and that is when we saw alot of sheds just go. The private companies were often no longer looking at the longevity of locos, but running them into the ground ect. And the shorter term bottom line.
This sums it up nationwide -
Bristol Bath Road then
http://www.flickr.com/photos/barry13092/3999161414/
Bristol Bath Road now
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gbrailphotos/5898581668/
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Went to bath road a few times. Such a shame to see how it is now.
Used to like going to -
Tinsley
Healey Mills
Toton
Barrow Hill
Laira
Bescot
Reddish
Longsite
Crewe DD
Gateshead
BREL Doncaster
BREL Derby
BREL Swindon
BREL Crewe
Used to like going to -
Tinsley
Healey Mills
Toton
Barrow Hill
Laira
Bescot
Reddish
Longsite
Crewe DD
Gateshead
BREL Doncaster
BREL Derby
BREL Swindon
BREL Crewe
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I'm not sure about the downturn in freight being solely responsible for the demise of the loco.
A lot went when they were replaced by multiple units. There are now hardly any loco-hauled passenger trains in the UK.
Great for the rail companies, NOT great for the passengers: cross country trains, (Newcastle> Sheffield> Derby> Birmingham> Wales or the West Country USED to be a loco and ten coaches.
Now they are a multiple unit. Faster, yes, but only FOUR coaches. And guess what? Passengers end up paying top whack to STAND all the way. Disgusting. Plus in summer, the trains could be strengthened to 11, 12 or even 13 coaches. Not so now, four's your lot!
Meanwhile the railcompanies are trousering TEN TIMES the subsidy paid before it was privatised
And freight? We allowed an AMERICAN company to take over. Why would anyone then be surprised that they replaced all the BRITISH designed and built locos with those designed and built in the USA/Canada?
And the great loco-building enterprises in the UK came to an end after nearly 200 years
Are the American locos better? Well a single Brush (Loughborough) built Class 60 used to be on the Immingham> Scunthorpe ore trains. A class 66 now does the same job....and the wagons are about 1/4 full
A lot went when they were replaced by multiple units. There are now hardly any loco-hauled passenger trains in the UK.
Great for the rail companies, NOT great for the passengers: cross country trains, (Newcastle> Sheffield> Derby> Birmingham> Wales or the West Country USED to be a loco and ten coaches.
Now they are a multiple unit. Faster, yes, but only FOUR coaches. And guess what? Passengers end up paying top whack to STAND all the way. Disgusting. Plus in summer, the trains could be strengthened to 11, 12 or even 13 coaches. Not so now, four's your lot!
Meanwhile the railcompanies are trousering TEN TIMES the subsidy paid before it was privatised
And freight? We allowed an AMERICAN company to take over. Why would anyone then be surprised that they replaced all the BRITISH designed and built locos with those designed and built in the USA/Canada?
And the great loco-building enterprises in the UK came to an end after nearly 200 years
Are the American locos better? Well a single Brush (Loughborough) built Class 60 used to be on the Immingham> Scunthorpe ore trains. A class 66 now does the same job....and the wagons are about 1/4 full
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I remember going to Barry about 1980 on several occasions loved it.
I am hoping to get to Barrow Hill soon.
I have a few nice evening shots off the bank over Tinsley - I will see if I can dig them out
50007 at Old Oak Common
http://www.flickr.com/photos/d210bob/6964846900/
I am hoping to get to Barrow Hill soon.
I have a few nice evening shots off the bank over Tinsley - I will see if I can dig them out
50007 at Old Oak Common
http://www.flickr.com/photos/d210bob/6964846900/
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http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/.../8-Other-Sites
You may like this site. Urban exploration forum.
Crewe diesel report.
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...0-Crewe-Diesel
You may like this site. Urban exploration forum.
Crewe diesel report.
http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/...0-Crewe-Diesel
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When I was a lad I still remember being invited onto the footplate of a steam loco in Waterloo station. Really interesting of course but when the fireman opened the door to the fire the heat was unbelievable.
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Thanks for the links PaulR. Great photos in the article,
I visited Crewe works when it was mostly steam, awesome place.
Thank you all for your input into this thread, I didn't realise there were so many railheads on here
I visited Crewe works when it was mostly steam, awesome place.
Thank you all for your input into this thread, I didn't realise there were so many railheads on here
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We tend to keep a low profile......successive generations of TV presenter and radio DJ have found it necessary to label us anoraks, etc.
Yet the BBC actually PAYS to show footage of someone dressed in weird clothes trying to knock a little white ball into a hole he cannot even SEE
I have many happy, and some sad, memories of "The Plant" at Doncaster in 1959-1964.
We would go round on a saturday afternoon when 95% of the workforce had clocked off.
Lines of locos, under repair, quiet, with just the hum of the air-extraction units.
Sad going along the scrap lines.
I remember us finding Britannia 70038 "Robin Hood" on there, around 1961, and being shocked, asking the guide why it was for scrap.
He laughed and said not to worry, it was there "waiting space in t'Crimpsall". (The erecting shop). I remember him saying, "They'll not be scrapping any of THESE for a good few years..."
Seven years later they had all gone
Yet the BBC actually PAYS to show footage of someone dressed in weird clothes trying to knock a little white ball into a hole he cannot even SEE
I have many happy, and some sad, memories of "The Plant" at Doncaster in 1959-1964.
We would go round on a saturday afternoon when 95% of the workforce had clocked off.
Lines of locos, under repair, quiet, with just the hum of the air-extraction units.
Sad going along the scrap lines.
I remember us finding Britannia 70038 "Robin Hood" on there, around 1961, and being shocked, asking the guide why it was for scrap.
He laughed and said not to worry, it was there "waiting space in t'Crimpsall". (The erecting shop). I remember him saying, "They'll not be scrapping any of THESE for a good few years..."
Seven years later they had all gone
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I better get some pics up soon then. Give me a few days and I will get scanning
I loved the huge oily beasts as much as I love hurricanes and subarus
Perhaps I will do a picture most days.
47 163 at Findsbury Park - Now a housing estate
I loved the huge oily beasts as much as I love hurricanes and subarus
Perhaps I will do a picture most days.
47 163 at Findsbury Park - Now a housing estate
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What? they turned a loco into a housing estate?
I need to dig out some of my old photos and slides, I have been interested in trains, (in fact most forms of self-propelled transport) since about 1955.
My uncle was a photographer and taught me how to develope and print. I eventually had my own darkroom, so beware, when I find the photos you will need to add extra bandwidth
I need to dig out some of my old photos and slides, I have been interested in trains, (in fact most forms of self-propelled transport) since about 1955.
My uncle was a photographer and taught me how to develope and print. I eventually had my own darkroom, so beware, when I find the photos you will need to add extra bandwidth
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Let's face it, Thomas the Tank practically saved a lot of preserved railways and introduced the younger generation to steam locos.
I bet you all loved watching the Thomas videos with your kids
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What? they turned a loco into a housing estate?
I need to dig out some of my old photos and slides, I have been interested in trains, (in fact most forms of self-propelled transport) since about 1955.
My uncle was a photographer and taught me how to develope and print. I eventually had my own darkroom, so beware, when I find the photos you will need to add extra bandwidth
I need to dig out some of my old photos and slides, I have been interested in trains, (in fact most forms of self-propelled transport) since about 1955.
My uncle was a photographer and taught me how to develope and print. I eventually had my own darkroom, so beware, when I find the photos you will need to add extra bandwidth
Sadly, none of my negs remain.
If yours are any good, you might consider putting them on flickr...mASSIVE interest in old photos, esp steam.
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Spent many a sunday afternoon in there as a kid, you'd just walk in and have a chat with whoever was working and pretty much do and go where you wanted.
Only discovered a couple of years ago it was torn down in the 80's for low cost housing. Only a couple of years after I stopped being enthusiastic seems the whole scene went that way pretty quickly. Very strange looking at it now and the state it's in, I guess it would have been the same for someone from the steam era revisiting well into the diesel era, Multiple units and American built ugly diesels just dont do it for me
As I remember FP http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25263
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Blimey, brings back memories. Class 13s at Tinsley, the racehorse Delitcs at Finsbury Park, 56s at Shirebrook. I have enough old pictures from 1977-1982 to make several books. Railways were railways then.
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Spent many a sunday afternoon in there as a kid, you'd just walk in and have a chat with whoever was working and pretty much do and go where you wanted.
Only discovered a couple of years ago it was torn down in the 80's for low cost housing. Only a couple of years after I stopped being enthusiastic seems the whole scene went that way pretty quickly. Very strange looking at it now and the state it's in, I guess it would have been the same for someone from the steam era revisiting well into the diesel era, Multiple units and American built ugly diesels just dont do it for me
As I remember FP http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25263
Spent many a sunday afternoon in there as a kid, you'd just walk in and have a chat with whoever was working and pretty much do and go where you wanted.
Only discovered a couple of years ago it was torn down in the 80's for low cost housing. Only a couple of years after I stopped being enthusiastic seems the whole scene went that way pretty quickly. Very strange looking at it now and the state it's in, I guess it would have been the same for someone from the steam era revisiting well into the diesel era, Multiple units and American built ugly diesels just dont do it for me
As I remember FP http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25263
Multiple units and American built ugly diesels just dont do it for me either!
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Unmistakably FP
Spent many a sunday afternoon in there as a kid, you'd just walk in and have a chat with whoever was working and pretty much do and go where you wanted.
Only discovered a couple of years ago it was torn down in the 80's for low cost housing. Only a couple of years after I stopped being enthusiastic seems the whole scene went that way pretty quickly. Very strange looking at it now and the state it's in, I guess it would have been the same for someone from the steam era revisiting well into the diesel era, Multiple units and American built ugly diesels just dont do it for me
As I remember FP http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25263
Spent many a sunday afternoon in there as a kid, you'd just walk in and have a chat with whoever was working and pretty much do and go where you wanted.
Only discovered a couple of years ago it was torn down in the 80's for low cost housing. Only a couple of years after I stopped being enthusiastic seems the whole scene went that way pretty quickly. Very strange looking at it now and the state it's in, I guess it would have been the same for someone from the steam era revisiting well into the diesel era, Multiple units and American built ugly diesels just dont do it for me
As I remember FP http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25263
Lost interest during the late 80's as I had discovered "Other" things in life......
We used to go on the "East Midlands Ranger" for a week for the price of £4.00. Was great fun.
Today's railways are as boring as hell to me. I went for a nose at Toton a couple of months ago and was horrified. All the same. Also, just a shadow of it's former self. I fondly remember Toton Open Day on June 9th 1979
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A mate recently went to Toton. he drove down and back, saw how dull it was and drove back out.
On the way out he stopped for a wee.
He was immediately accosted by two plain clothes BTP officers and got the official letter two weeks later: next time it's a £1000 fine.
Mind, it wasn't always roses in the UK: First time we ever went to Bath Road, we hadn't even opened our mouths to ask, before the foreman looked up and said, "No, you can't go round the shed, now fukc off!"
How nice.
Meanwhile, over in France, I've had cab-rides, guided visits round sheds, locos moved into better positions, pantographs raised/lowered, lights put on etc all to make a better shot, even allowed round Beziers works one evening on my own, no guide..
On the way out he stopped for a wee.
He was immediately accosted by two plain clothes BTP officers and got the official letter two weeks later: next time it's a £1000 fine.
Mind, it wasn't always roses in the UK: First time we ever went to Bath Road, we hadn't even opened our mouths to ask, before the foreman looked up and said, "No, you can't go round the shed, now fukc off!"
How nice.
Meanwhile, over in France, I've had cab-rides, guided visits round sheds, locos moved into better positions, pantographs raised/lowered, lights put on etc all to make a better shot, even allowed round Beziers works one evening on my own, no guide..
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Excellent thread. This is like a continuation of what it's like when I go round Jeffs for education on thee engineering beasts
Brilliant stuff and hopefully my son takes an interest in old trains as he grows up
Brilliant stuff and hopefully my son takes an interest in old trains as he grows up