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Old 17 December 2012, 10:00 PM
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Has anyone been watching The Golden Age of Steam Railways on BBC4?

Episode 2 has a section about Woodham's scrapyard at Barry.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour

Plus this collection..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/collect...steam-railways
Old 17 December 2012, 10:07 PM
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I always had & still have, a soft spot for the old Woodhead Route.
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I have always found a good scrapyard to be a fascinating place to while away a bit of spare time!

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Old 18 December 2012, 01:33 PM
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Looks like Santa will be bringing me this for Christrmas, I couldn't think of anything that I wanted and saw this Thanks Mum

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Glory-Da.../dp/B005JDFWBK
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I used to go around many a depot in the 80's. Just walk in and look around. No one ever battered an eye lid. Toton, Tinsley

Massively surprised by this. In my day, when i were a lad, Tinsley and in particular Toton had a fearsome reputation for being impenetrable, except if you wanted a BTP escort. The worst of the lot though was Immingham, only one entry point and right in front of the foreman's office. Being told "no" after making the pilgrimage there on buses and/or walking was as depressing as it gets for a 14 year old!!
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Massively surprised by this. In my day, when i were a lad, Tinsley and in particular Toton had a fearsome reputation for being impenetrable, except if you wanted a BTP escort. The worst of the lot though was Immingham, only one entry point and right in front of the foreman's office. Being told "no" after making the pilgrimage there on buses and/or walking was as depressing as it gets for a 14 year old!!
I knew that deflated being turned away feeling.
Tinsley wasnt bad to bunk round
Toton was always tough
Willesden was tough too
Bath Road was the worst

Easiest in my book were
Old Oak Common, Stratford, Finsbury park, Bescot, Severn Tunnel Junction
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I only ever got inside Toton and Tinsley on official tours.

Whereas London was easy, walk in of a weekend have a word with the foreman if you could find anyone and off you went, in and out of cabs through the inspection pit.

Finsbury Park
Willesden
Stratford Depot and Works (door was unlocked and no one was working in the works)
Old Oak Common
Cricklewood
Bounds Green
Hither Green
Stewarts Lane

Others that were never an issue
Polmadie
Eastfield
Cardiff Canton
Laira
Gateshead
March
Westbury
Reading
Eastleigh

I can still smell the grease and diesel
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Originally Posted by Oldun
Has anyone been watching The Golden Age of Steam Railways on BBC4?
I spent many happy years working at Cadeby with Teddy Boston in the late 1970s through to about 1985, so that part of the first episode was very nostalgic for me.
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We went to Bescot once you're right it was easy to get into as well as Saltley.

I'm sure there was another shed we did in the area but I just cant remember it.

All done on a National coaches return from Victoria to Brum, wouldn't even consider that as an option nowadays !

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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
I only ever got inside Toton and Tinsley on official tours.

Whereas London was easy, walk in of a weekend have a word with the foreman if you could find anyone and off you went, in and out of cabs through the inspection pit.

Finsbury Park
Willesden
Stratford Depot and Works (door was unlocked and no one was working in the works)
Old Oak Common
Cricklewood
Bounds Green
Hither Green
Stewarts Lane

Others that were never an issue
Polmadie
Eastfield
Cardiff Canton
Laira
Gateshead
March
Westbury
Reading
Eastleigh

I can still smell the grease and diesel
A few of the Olympic Village for you, to spark a few memories
The amazing thing about this place was that on a weekend you could just walk straight in and go and sit in the cabs of the locs in the works! A different world





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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Massively surprised by this. In my day, when i were a lad, Tinsley and in particular Toton had a fearsome reputation for being impenetrable, except if you wanted a BTP escort. The worst of the lot though was Immingham, only one entry point and right in front of the foreman's office. Being told "no" after making the pilgrimage there on buses and/or walking was as depressing as it gets for a 14 year old!!
There used to be an entrance across the drain at Immingham, you had to cross the running lines to the refineries and arrived at the back of the shed.

If you "didn't know where the office was" you could have done the shed before finding it....
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I used to love Stratford: the entrance outside the station through that tunnel that had been there since steam days. Coming out into the old steam shed and "new works" from steam days, with a few diesels here and there, then across to the main running shed.

Very atmospheric.
Toton was very easy in the 70's and early 80's, never got stopped once, Sundays were like an amusement park with loads of folk going round.

Scotttish sheds were ace: the trespass law in Scotland was different, so we were never refused anywhere, except Dunfermline Townhill as it was a wagon works too, so locked off.

We used to go up to Edinburgh by train, run across and catch the push-pull to Glasgow, (2 x class 27's, on on each end), then, in Glasgow, taxi to Eastfield, round there, out again, flag a taxi to Polmadie, round there, back to Central, train to Motherwell, round there, back to Central, run/jog to Queen street, train back to Edinburgh, but get off at Haymarket, jog to the shed, round there, train back to Edinburgh and catch our train home again.

Good day out, and it always seemed to be sunny.

I was also a member of the "Dalescroft Railfans Society".
I went on one of their saturation tours: the coach picked me up at Nottingham station at 00:01 and off we went, also picking up in Birmingham.
We all fell asleep. Then suddenly, the coach sopped, all the lights came on and someone yelled, "Aberbeeg, everyone out!" It was 5am.....pitch dark and on an icy road.
Some intrepid souls climbed own the 50 foot embankment to get the numbers of the four class 37's and one 08, while the rest of us shivered, then they came back up and off we went.

We went to EVERY shed and stabling point in South Wales during the course of the day, finishing at Severn Tunnel Junction at about 19:30, again, pitch dark and we went round reading loco numbers using a lighter to see them, LOL.

Saw over 400 locos in one day.

They dropped me off about two miles from college at around 1am the next day, I was knackered and walked round the ring-road back to college.
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Massively surprised by this. In my day, when i were a lad, Tinsley and in particular Toton had a fearsome reputation for being impenetrable, except if you wanted a BTP escort. The worst of the lot though was Immingham, only one entry point and right in front of the foreman's office. Being told "no" after making the pilgrimage there on buses and/or walking was as depressing as it gets for a 14 year old!!
Never had a problem and walked round them many times. (Early 80's) Toton was especially easy. Just walk down the long entrance road & staright into the shed.
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Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn
I Particularly like this one with the works on the right hand side, wow that did take me back and brought up an old memory of bumping into a lad right at the end of the canopy and he starts telling me and my mate how he has perfected an impression of the 125, he then prompty does the impression of the front car passing which admitedly was quite good, he then proceeded to do each carriage finishing with the rear car, mad bastid

Also got my first **** mag from Stratford Works, it was just lying there on a bench in the workshop, what could I do I was 13 and it was coming home with me
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I guess there is a first time for everything

What years were you walking about there?
These are 1980 -1984 ish on those empty Saturday/Sunday afternoons with not a soul around. Just a few locos ticking over here and there.
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Went once, had done the shed, went into the works building through an unlocked door.

As we were finishing off in there, two kids cam in and began raving in loud voices about a 56 that was there: it didn't bother us as it was one of the ones that had come through Tinsley....

However, they were making so much noise that we deemed it a good idea to retreat.

As we went towards the door, it opened and two BTP came in, and started asking us who we were etc

I thought quickly and sai, "If I were you I'd go and look at what those two lads are doing climbing all over that Class 56......"

He told us to wait and they both went off to find out what the kids were doing.

We, of course, scarpered fast!.
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Exactly the same period Steve

I remember it exactly as you describe it, it was the same for almost all of the sheds in and around London of a weekend. And as Alcazar mentioned I remember the tunnel from the tube station running under the tracks straight out into the depot, usualy with a load of EMU's stabled to the right as you emerged.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Went once, had done the shed, went into the works building through an unlocked door.

As we were finishing off in there, two kids cam in and began raving in loud voices about a 56 that was there: it didn't bother us as it was one of the ones that had come through Tinsley....

However, they were making so much noise that we deemed it a good idea to retreat.

As we went towards the door, it opened and two BTP came in, and started asking us who we were etc

I thought quickly and sai, "If I were you I'd go and look at what those two lads are doing climbing all over that Class 56......"

He told us to wait and they both went off to find out what the kids were doing.

We, of course, scarpered fast!.
It wasn't me but I do remember the odd 56 in the works which was always a treat as they were rare darn sarf during that period, saw a few over Cricklewood once and the odd one in Willesden but otherwise fairly rare for us, we'd have to venture out to Didcot to see them on the coal trains to the power station.

btw it's Longsight with the gh and no e
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Anyone else old enough to have spotted and been pulled by Westerns?

I once spent a day traveling from New Street to Paddington behind EIGHT different Westerns.......backwards and forwards on the same ticket, LOL
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Went once, had done the shed, went into the works building through an unlocked door.

As we were finishing off in there, two kids cam in and began raving in loud voices about a 56 that was there: it didn't bother us as it was one of the ones that had come through Tinsley....

However, they were making so much noise that we deemed it a good idea to retreat.

As we went towards the door, it opened and two BTP came in, and started asking us who we were etc

I thought quickly and sai, "If I were you I'd go and look at what those two lads are doing climbing all over that Class 56......"

He told us to wait and they both went off to find out what the kids were doing.

We, of course, scarpered fast!.
lol - I had a few moment like that whilst bunking around places.
I remember rolling under a train once on Saturday afternoon at Stratford and lying dead still - as a lone BR employee came mooching along. Also remember being sat very quite the the cabs of 47s and 37s soaking it all up as some one walked past. You learnt to be stealthy

For me Funkii - It was as much about the atmosphere. The smells and the noises the anticipation on an early sunny morning as you set out and got onto a train with the weak sun coming through the window into a rattely carriage, not knowing if you would get a kop - see something unusual. The huge network with all these blue beasts roaming about on it, full of character. Trying to work out how you would get round that depot with out being seen.

A dirtier, cruder, rougher age, that was more real and less sanitised.

For the steam guys - it must be double demoralising to see the railways today
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Anyone else old enough to have spotted and been pulled by Westerns?

I once spent a day traveling from New Street to Paddington behind EIGHT different Westerns.......backwards and forwards on the same ticket, LOL
Just before my time you old git
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
It wasn't me but I do remember the odd 56 in the works which was always a treat as they were rare darn sarf during that period, saw a few over Cricklewood once and the odd one in Willesden but otherwise fairly rare for us, we'd have to venture out to Didcot to see them on the coal trains to the power station.

btw it's Longsight with the gh and no e
Us southern kids... Well we got all the BR and CF 56s fairly early on.
But the later numbered Northern locos. Were a big deal for us. So trips up to Worksop, Tinsley ect ect were a bigger deal.
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Exactly..whereas we used to have to travel for day out to London, then buy one of those all day rail and tube travel cards at, say, Potter's bar, and off we went.

We'd not bother with Finsbury park, but go out to Willesden first, walk over to Old Oak Common, back to Willesden, round the N London line for Stratford, then down to the southern: Hither Green, always an easy shed, then Stewart's Lane, which could be got into by walking through the disused Palethorpes sausage factory, you came in the through the old works and steam depot...that elusive atmosphere again.

Then we would go out to Norwood junction, walk along to Tennyson Road, where a few locos stabled, but then walk down and along a track beside the line, and, hey presto, you came OUT through Selhurst shed. We always got weird looks walking OUT, but who stops people LEAVING an area?

Then it was back out to Potter's Bar and home. Any spare time was spent on the end of a platform at Willesden.
I remember my mate being caught short and nipping onto a train waiting to go to Blackpool, for a dump. All the way out to Potter's bar, he kept saying, "Well my logs will be at Crewe now, etc"

I well remember one visit when we saw ALL the Class 73/0's in one day, one at Waterloo, and the others at Tennyson Road, Stewart's Lane or Selhurst
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After chatting to Gary M the other night.
As promised here are few more for you mate











47 - Margam
45 - St Pancras
50 - Birmingham
40 - Kings Cross
47 - Old Oak Common

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Model inspiration

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/ind...-railway-pics/

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/ind...-jons-gallery/

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/ind...e/47927-47145/

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/ind...05-toton-1980/

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/ind...078-st-blazey/

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/ind...813-shed-peak/

Guess what I am building
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Oh another RMweber

I always remember Scottsh depots being particularly easy to get round.
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Excellent
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Have a look at this
Quality nostalgia

Thanks for the pics Steve I'm up in the loft tomorrow to see what I might have, hope I didnt chuck too much out.....
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I was watching the clip above thinking I'll share this with the lads on SN and went straight to Search to locate this thread, little did I know it had been resurected this evening

To think everything that was mentioned in that clip has coe and gone

Another interesting clip

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