Another mass School shooting in the States.
21 December 2012, 07:26 PM
#121
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It`s all going to be ok. The NRA today announce that they want to put armed police officers in all schools and allow the teachers to be armed. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-...tect-students/ Seems the answer to the gun problem is more guns 
The Americans really have run out of ideas
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21 December 2012, 07:46 PM
#122
How great is it to live in this country where gun ownership is so so rare. Yes we have our horrors like Dunblane and our **** areas, but imagine sending your child to school with metal detectors and armed guards? The wealthiest nation in the world, Americans have to wake up and get rid of their stupid fkin' guns. What f'kin idiots.
21 December 2012, 08:09 PM
#123
Scooby Regular
21 December 2012, 08:23 PM
#124
Armed Guards protecting an elementary school?
For the NRA to say that the reason these kids are dead is because they weren't surrounded by ENOUGH guns in their lives, should offend every American. Heck, as a human being I am offended!
For the NRA to say that the reason these kids are dead is because they weren't surrounded by ENOUGH guns in their lives, should offend every American. Heck, as a human being I am offended!
22 December 2012, 09:31 AM
#126
Crazy ideas the yanks
Armed guards at every school
If mr looney shooter decides to go on a rampage he is going to shoot the guard first
Every gun should be taken and crushed and have tough laws like the uk
Yes there will be an odd incident same as uk but its education and making children not grow up with guns and aware of what a gun can do
Armed guards at every school
If mr looney shooter decides to go on a rampage he is going to shoot the guard first
Every gun should be taken and crushed and have tough laws like the uk
Yes there will be an odd incident same as uk but its education and making children not grow up with guns and aware of what a gun can do
23 December 2012, 08:51 PM
#127
Crazy ideas the yanks
Armed guards at every school
If mr looney shooter decides to go on a rampage he is going to shoot the guard first
Every gun should be taken and crushed and have tough laws like the uk
Yes there will be an odd incident same as uk but its education and making children not grow up with guns and aware of what a gun can do
Armed guards at every school
If mr looney shooter decides to go on a rampage he is going to shoot the guard first
Every gun should be taken and crushed and have tough laws like the uk
Yes there will be an odd incident same as uk but its education and making children not grow up with guns and aware of what a gun can do
23 December 2012, 09:41 PM
#129
Canada certainly has a lot of guns compared with the UK (around 6 times as many per capita), but still runs a very long way behind the US, with nearly 3 times fewer per capita than its southern neighbour, and in plain numbers a staggering 260 million less actual guns.
24 December 2012, 11:22 AM
#130
J4ckos mate sent me a link saying that since Sandy Hook, 500 people in the US have died due to firearms, unbeleiveable, apparently firearms will overtake road deaths as the main non medical cause of death in the US in the next couple of years, cars get safer, guns and people dont.
The NRA are arseholes, plain and simple, a big boys club so they can play with their pop guns and shoot anyone they like with the slightest justification, they rattle on about the "Right to Bear arms" like it is all the justification anyone ever needs to own as much millitary hardware as possible, they are feeling very exposed at the moment and their only answer is "more guns", that will never be the answer, the more guns, the more people die due to being shot, with no guns in circulation you would have a zero firearms fatality record, with the current ownership 30,000 people die in the US every year from homicides, suicides and accidental shootings, if they made gun ownership and carrying compulsary it would be a bloodbath. How does an organisation like this wield so much power and why are people so fixated with owning a stick that fires projectiles fast enough to kill someone ?
A three year old killed himself playing with his uncles gun the other day, how often does that happen, how often does a kid manage just to blow a hole in the ceiling and nobody finds out.
The US spent billions chasing Osama Bin Laden (and then Killed Him), OBL never killed as many people as the US gun owners, 30,000 deaths, OBL should have just offered a subsidsed mail order website to supply cheap firearms to the American public and they would do his work for free, even 911 didnt kill that many people, that was about a months worth of gun victims.
I suspect before 2013 is out there will be other massacres, I really hope not but there seems to be a trend, may be down to economics or perhaps just the power of suggestion, people do look to others for ways to behave and somethign they may have never considered becomes a possibility, like terrorists and their fixation with making airliners fall from the sky I think the school thing is all to publicised at the moment, there will be ostracised youths out there with access to guns who now may well be planning their own Sandy Hook, without firearms they would have no easy way to cause death on such a scale.
The Americans need our gun laws, but that will never happen, would be civil war.
The NRA are arseholes, plain and simple, a big boys club so they can play with their pop guns and shoot anyone they like with the slightest justification, they rattle on about the "Right to Bear arms" like it is all the justification anyone ever needs to own as much millitary hardware as possible, they are feeling very exposed at the moment and their only answer is "more guns", that will never be the answer, the more guns, the more people die due to being shot, with no guns in circulation you would have a zero firearms fatality record, with the current ownership 30,000 people die in the US every year from homicides, suicides and accidental shootings, if they made gun ownership and carrying compulsary it would be a bloodbath. How does an organisation like this wield so much power and why are people so fixated with owning a stick that fires projectiles fast enough to kill someone ?
A three year old killed himself playing with his uncles gun the other day, how often does that happen, how often does a kid manage just to blow a hole in the ceiling and nobody finds out.
The US spent billions chasing Osama Bin Laden (and then Killed Him), OBL never killed as many people as the US gun owners, 30,000 deaths, OBL should have just offered a subsidsed mail order website to supply cheap firearms to the American public and they would do his work for free, even 911 didnt kill that many people, that was about a months worth of gun victims.
I suspect before 2013 is out there will be other massacres, I really hope not but there seems to be a trend, may be down to economics or perhaps just the power of suggestion, people do look to others for ways to behave and somethign they may have never considered becomes a possibility, like terrorists and their fixation with making airliners fall from the sky I think the school thing is all to publicised at the moment, there will be ostracised youths out there with access to guns who now may well be planning their own Sandy Hook, without firearms they would have no easy way to cause death on such a scale.
The Americans need our gun laws, but that will never happen, would be civil war.
24 December 2012, 01:12 PM
#131
J4ckos mate sent me a link saying that since Sandy Hook, 500 people in the US have died due to firearms, unbeleiveable, apparently firearms will overtake road deaths as the main non medical cause of death in the US in the next couple of years, cars get safer, guns and people dont.
The NRA are arseholes, plain and simple, a big boys club so they can play with their pop guns and shoot anyone they like with the slightest justification, they rattle on about the "Right to Bear arms" like it is all the justification anyone ever needs to own as much millitary hardware as possible, they are feeling very exposed at the moment and their only answer is "more guns", that will never be the answer, the more guns, the more people die due to being shot, with no guns in circulation you would have a zero firearms fatality record, with the current ownership 30,000 people die in the US every year from homicides, suicides and accidental shootings, if they made gun ownership and carrying compulsary it would be a bloodbath. How does an organisation like this wield so much power and why are people so fixated with owning a stick that fires projectiles fast enough to kill someone ?
A three year old killed himself playing with his uncles gun the other day, how often does that happen, how often does a kid manage just to blow a hole in the ceiling and nobody finds out.
The US spent billions chasing Osama Bin Laden (and then Killed Him), OBL never killed as many people as the US gun owners, 30,000 deaths, OBL should have just offered a subsidsed mail order website to supply cheap firearms to the American public and they would do his work for free, even 911 didnt kill that many people, that was about a months worth of gun victims.
I suspect before 2013 is out there will be other massacres, I really hope not but there seems to be a trend, may be down to economics or perhaps just the power of suggestion, people do look to others for ways to behave and somethign they may have never considered becomes a possibility, like terrorists and their fixation with making airliners fall from the sky I think the school thing is all to publicised at the moment, there will be ostracised youths out there with access to guns who now may well be planning their own Sandy Hook, without firearms they would have no easy way to cause death on such a scale.
The Americans need our gun laws, but that will never happen, would be civil war.
The NRA are arseholes, plain and simple, a big boys club so they can play with their pop guns and shoot anyone they like with the slightest justification, they rattle on about the "Right to Bear arms" like it is all the justification anyone ever needs to own as much millitary hardware as possible, they are feeling very exposed at the moment and their only answer is "more guns", that will never be the answer, the more guns, the more people die due to being shot, with no guns in circulation you would have a zero firearms fatality record, with the current ownership 30,000 people die in the US every year from homicides, suicides and accidental shootings, if they made gun ownership and carrying compulsary it would be a bloodbath. How does an organisation like this wield so much power and why are people so fixated with owning a stick that fires projectiles fast enough to kill someone ?
A three year old killed himself playing with his uncles gun the other day, how often does that happen, how often does a kid manage just to blow a hole in the ceiling and nobody finds out.
The US spent billions chasing Osama Bin Laden (and then Killed Him), OBL never killed as many people as the US gun owners, 30,000 deaths, OBL should have just offered a subsidsed mail order website to supply cheap firearms to the American public and they would do his work for free, even 911 didnt kill that many people, that was about a months worth of gun victims.
I suspect before 2013 is out there will be other massacres, I really hope not but there seems to be a trend, may be down to economics or perhaps just the power of suggestion, people do look to others for ways to behave and somethign they may have never considered becomes a possibility, like terrorists and their fixation with making airliners fall from the sky I think the school thing is all to publicised at the moment, there will be ostracised youths out there with access to guns who now may well be planning their own Sandy Hook, without firearms they would have no easy way to cause death on such a scale.
The Americans need our gun laws, but that will never happen, would be civil war.
I'm fully aware that I'm playing devil's advocate here slightly, but in both cases I think it would be fair to say you'd be talking about changing or legislating an entire nation's psychology, if you wanted to make any serious dent in either of those figures.
24 December 2012, 01:38 PM
#132
Is it any more or less unbelievable that within that same time period in Japan, a country with less than half the population of the US, and a private firearm ownership rate of near-enough zero, pretty much same number of people will have committed suicide?
I'm fully aware that I'm playing devil's advocate here slightly, but in both cases I think it would be fair to say you'd be talking about changing or legislating an entire nation's psychology, if you wanted to make any serious dent in either of those figures.
I'm fully aware that I'm playing devil's advocate here slightly, but in both cases I think it would be fair to say you'd be talking about changing or legislating an entire nation's psychology, if you wanted to make any serious dent in either of those figures.
I wonder how long, if real Santa would last in the US, I reckon he would be dead within the first five minutes of his rounds.
24 December 2012, 03:16 PM
#134
Scooby Regular
Americans conflate the idea and concept of gun ownership with freedom
Until that is addressed, which is impossible, nothing will change
A nation condemned by history, v sad really
Until that is addressed, which is impossible, nothing will change
A nation condemned by history, v sad really
24 December 2012, 04:19 PM
#135
Sometimes I feel have as much in common with a lot of Americans, i.e. the Christian, God Fearing "***" Hating, Right Wing, Conservative, Gun loving middle America, they are kind of like Extreme versions of Daily Mail readers over here, raised on the ideal that America can do no wrong and is the best place in the world "God Bless America" etc, sometimes every bit as zealous and brainwashed than the Taliban. There is much intelligent life over there as well, I work with some really great Americans and it is good to see we kind of take the best from each other, they arent all gun nuts and some are anti gun.
I can see how it would be difficult for them to relinquish weapons, it is slightly unfair on millions of responsible gun owners for whom hunting is part of a lifestyle but personally I think the stakes are too high now, I also think it would be impossible to remove weapons entirely, I just dont have an answer, only worked over here as we are more controllable and guns arent as mainstream.
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