Andrew Mitchell framed by police??
11 January 2014, 03:22 PM
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28 November 2014, 06:16 AM
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And the CCTV does show members of the public close by and appearing to be 'shocked' by what they hear.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html#comments
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28 November 2014, 08:24 AM
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I'm not a big fan of the Police, but I'm really pleased this self important **** hole got stuffed, no doubt in my mind that he said what he was accused of saying, reason being exactly as the judge said the officer in question does'nt possess the wit or presence of mind to come up with that statement.
Lets face it, if Police Officers were smart they'd be Lawyers.
Lets face it, if Police Officers were smart they'd be Lawyers.
28 November 2014, 09:57 AM
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28 November 2014, 09:58 AM
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Mitchell soundls like a complete **** to be honest. He appears to be under the misconception that he is in some way "important" when in fact he was simply a public servant.
REVEALED: HIS HISTORY OF HIGH-HANDED INSULTS TO POLICE
Andrew Mitchell has been accused of high-handed behaviour at least 16 times dating back to 2005. Those outlined to the High Court included:
NOVEMBER 2005:Mr Mitchell tried to cycle through a heavy gate into Black Rod’s garden as it was being closed by a security guard. Lee Bryer shouted ‘stop’ several times but the MP ignored his requests and cycled through.
Mr Bryer caught up with Mr Mitchell and asked him why he did not stop. Mr Mitchell allegedly said: I’m an MP and I’m too important to stop for you. Stop being so aggressive, you little s***.’
MAY 2011: The MP arrived at the main gate of Downing Street on his bicycle and told officers: ‘Let me in. I’m a Cabinet MP and I’m late for a meeting.’ PC Bruce Smart had no idea who he was so phoned the control room at No 10.
He said: ‘The custodian told me that although allowing him access this way was against security policy, denying him entry would be more trouble than it was worth, and so I should just let him in.’
JUNE 2011: For a second time Mr Mitchell had a confrontation with PC Smart at the Downing Street gates – but this time the officer refused to let him through due to ‘security reasons’.
When Iain Duncan Smith arrived by car the officers had to open the main gate. They finally allowed Mr Mitchell through after a polite request from Mr Duncan Smith. As Mr Mitchell cycled through, he allegedly said: ‘Bruce Smart, is it? You shall be hearing about this. Don’t think you’ve heard the last of this – I’m going to make a complaint to the Commissioner.’
The MP demanded full disciplinary proceedings be brought against PC Smart. The officer said: ‘During both my encounters with Mr Mitchell his behaviour was arrogant and rude.’
JUNE 2011: PC Joseph Withington was on duty at Downing Street when Mr Mitchell allegedly shouted ‘chop, chop’ as officers opened the main gate for him.
The MP is then alleged to have said: ‘Always helps if you do this as rapidly as possible – we’re all in a hurry.’ PC Withington told the court Mr Mitchell used a ‘condescendingly rude tone’, adding: ‘It’s completely unnecessary, patronising and sarcastic to be spoken to like that.’
AUGUST 3, 2011: When Mr Mitchell arrived in Djerba, an island off the coast of Tunisia, during his stint as International Development Secretary, he told his protection team he wanted to travel to Libya.
Inspector Duncan Johnston, who ran the team, told him such a trip was not possible as it would breach international law. Mr Mitchell allegedly replied: ‘That’s a bit above your pay grade, Mr Plod.’
Inspector Johnston said he found this ‘rather insulting, discourteous and demeaning’.
AUGUST 17, 2011: Two weeks later Mr Mitchell ‘launched into a foul-mouthed tirade’ at members of his protection team when a trip from Kenya to Somalia was changed for security reasons.
Inspector Johnston said: ‘He used a tirade of language that … was just swearing for the sake of swearing.’
Mr Mitchell demanded to know how many officers had been sent to Kenya in advance of him and allegedly accused them of treating it as a holiday.
He allegedly said: ‘British taxpayers are funding this for police officers to sit by the pool.’
EARLY SEPTEMBER, 2012: On one visit to Downing Street Mr Mitchell had to cycle through the pedestrian gate, rather than the main gate.
He shouted to officers: ‘I’m coming through that gate next time.’ PC Michael Penton said: ‘I found Mr Mitchell’s behaviour to be rude and condescending.’
SEPTEMBER 18, 2012: On the night before ‘Plebgate’, Mr Mitchell allegedly shouted: ‘I’m the Government Chief Whip. I want to leave through these gates.’
PC Gareth Bonds said: ‘During this exchange I stood and watched in disbelief at how childish a grown man in his position was being and found it embarrassing.
‘I therefore spoke to my colleagues and told them to just open the gates as it was ridiculous to argue over a gate. I found Mr Mitchell’s tone overbearing.’
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REVEALED: HIS HISTORY OF HIGH-HANDED INSULTS TO POLICE
Andrew Mitchell has been accused of high-handed behaviour at least 16 times dating back to 2005. Those outlined to the High Court included:
NOVEMBER 2005:Mr Mitchell tried to cycle through a heavy gate into Black Rod’s garden as it was being closed by a security guard. Lee Bryer shouted ‘stop’ several times but the MP ignored his requests and cycled through.
Mr Bryer caught up with Mr Mitchell and asked him why he did not stop. Mr Mitchell allegedly said: I’m an MP and I’m too important to stop for you. Stop being so aggressive, you little s***.’
MAY 2011: The MP arrived at the main gate of Downing Street on his bicycle and told officers: ‘Let me in. I’m a Cabinet MP and I’m late for a meeting.’ PC Bruce Smart had no idea who he was so phoned the control room at No 10.
He said: ‘The custodian told me that although allowing him access this way was against security policy, denying him entry would be more trouble than it was worth, and so I should just let him in.’
JUNE 2011: For a second time Mr Mitchell had a confrontation with PC Smart at the Downing Street gates – but this time the officer refused to let him through due to ‘security reasons’.
When Iain Duncan Smith arrived by car the officers had to open the main gate. They finally allowed Mr Mitchell through after a polite request from Mr Duncan Smith. As Mr Mitchell cycled through, he allegedly said: ‘Bruce Smart, is it? You shall be hearing about this. Don’t think you’ve heard the last of this – I’m going to make a complaint to the Commissioner.’
The MP demanded full disciplinary proceedings be brought against PC Smart. The officer said: ‘During both my encounters with Mr Mitchell his behaviour was arrogant and rude.’
JUNE 2011: PC Joseph Withington was on duty at Downing Street when Mr Mitchell allegedly shouted ‘chop, chop’ as officers opened the main gate for him.
The MP is then alleged to have said: ‘Always helps if you do this as rapidly as possible – we’re all in a hurry.’ PC Withington told the court Mr Mitchell used a ‘condescendingly rude tone’, adding: ‘It’s completely unnecessary, patronising and sarcastic to be spoken to like that.’
AUGUST 3, 2011: When Mr Mitchell arrived in Djerba, an island off the coast of Tunisia, during his stint as International Development Secretary, he told his protection team he wanted to travel to Libya.
Inspector Duncan Johnston, who ran the team, told him such a trip was not possible as it would breach international law. Mr Mitchell allegedly replied: ‘That’s a bit above your pay grade, Mr Plod.’
Inspector Johnston said he found this ‘rather insulting, discourteous and demeaning’.
AUGUST 17, 2011: Two weeks later Mr Mitchell ‘launched into a foul-mouthed tirade’ at members of his protection team when a trip from Kenya to Somalia was changed for security reasons.
Inspector Johnston said: ‘He used a tirade of language that … was just swearing for the sake of swearing.’
Mr Mitchell demanded to know how many officers had been sent to Kenya in advance of him and allegedly accused them of treating it as a holiday.
He allegedly said: ‘British taxpayers are funding this for police officers to sit by the pool.’
EARLY SEPTEMBER, 2012: On one visit to Downing Street Mr Mitchell had to cycle through the pedestrian gate, rather than the main gate.
He shouted to officers: ‘I’m coming through that gate next time.’ PC Michael Penton said: ‘I found Mr Mitchell’s behaviour to be rude and condescending.’
SEPTEMBER 18, 2012: On the night before ‘Plebgate’, Mr Mitchell allegedly shouted: ‘I’m the Government Chief Whip. I want to leave through these gates.’
PC Gareth Bonds said: ‘During this exchange I stood and watched in disbelief at how childish a grown man in his position was being and found it embarrassing.
‘I therefore spoke to my colleagues and told them to just open the gates as it was ridiculous to argue over a gate. I found Mr Mitchell’s tone overbearing.’
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28 November 2014, 10:42 AM
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but a police officer was convicted of providing false evidence
At the Old Bailey, PC Keith Wallis subsequently admitted falsely claiming to have witnessed the incident and was sentenced to twelve months in prison.
I have no doubt Mitchell is a self important t0sser and did insult the police
but no one comes out of this well tbh
At the Old Bailey, PC Keith Wallis subsequently admitted falsely claiming to have witnessed the incident and was sentenced to twelve months in prison.
I have no doubt Mitchell is a self important t0sser and did insult the police
but no one comes out of this well tbh
28 November 2014, 11:03 AM
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trust me they do.
i am 48 and was talked to like i was a child on my last encounter, i politely pointed out to him that i did not like his tone, and that i was old enough to be his father, and also just because you have a few hair's around your mouth does not entitle you to talk like one. ha came very close to saying sorry, but no joy, he changed the conversation and totally lied in his statement to the court, on at least 6 pieces of information, however he failed to learn road traffic act 1988 properly before trying it on in court so he FAILED TO STITCH ME UP some are good some are bad and some are no better that the guilty people they nick
i am 48 and was talked to like i was a child on my last encounter, i politely pointed out to him that i did not like his tone, and that i was old enough to be his father, and also just because you have a few hair's around your mouth does not entitle you to talk like one. ha came very close to saying sorry, but no joy, he changed the conversation and totally lied in his statement to the court, on at least 6 pieces of information, however he failed to learn road traffic act 1988 properly before trying it on in court so he FAILED TO STITCH ME UP
some are good some are bad and some are no better that the guilty people they nick
28 November 2014, 03:04 PM
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By the sounds of it he obviously had form for abusing the Police and they obviously had it in for him, which is well deserved, based on the reports he sounds a right arrogant tw@ and a deserving candidate for a few slaps and a rag dolling.
He's not a very bright chap though because any council estate lad that's had a few run ins with the cops will tell you, it doesn't pay to p1ss them off a few times and put yourself on their radar because one way or another they'll screw you in the end.
Expensive lesson mind, maybe he'll learn to just mumble under his breath like the rest of us in future.
He's not a very bright chap though because any council estate lad that's had a few run ins with the cops will tell you, it doesn't pay to p1ss them off a few times and put yourself on their radar because one way or another they'll screw you in the end.
Expensive lesson mind, maybe he'll learn to just mumble under his breath like the rest of us in future.
29 November 2014, 06:25 AM
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Hmm, seems like he is a bit of a self important **** but I still get the feeling that the police may have colluded to set him up.
And let's not forget that Mitchell has not actually been found guilty of anything, he has lost a libel case.
And let's not forget that Mitchell has not actually been found guilty of anything, he has lost a libel case.
29 November 2014, 08:24 AM
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Libel cases are little more than "he said, she said" handbags at dawn
Has has been said, the judge did not have to decide on "guilt"
If it was a criminal trial, it would have been thrown out, without ever being heard - guilty or not, once the obfuscation, missinformation and collusion by the police came to light
Sadly the last 15 years has seen the polices reputation lying in tatters
Has has been said, the judge did not have to decide on "guilt"
If it was a criminal trial, it would have been thrown out, without ever being heard - guilty or not, once the obfuscation, missinformation and collusion by the police came to light
Sadly the last 15 years has seen the polices reputation lying in tatters
29 November 2014, 09:33 AM
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The Tory apologists are strong on this thread
The judge faced a difficult task as he had to decide who was more corrupt, the police or the politician... he made the right choice though
The judge faced a difficult task as he had to decide who was more corrupt, the police or the politician... he made the right choice though
29 November 2014, 11:49 PM
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The Mellor/Cabbie exchange that came to light is far funnier. I don't know why he is so ranty, possibly because he is jealous of the success of his siblings, being as he is the "missing Chipmunk". Alvin, Simon, Theodore and David Mellor just doesn't quite have the ring to it.
01 December 2014, 10:27 PM
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By the sounds of it he obviously had form for abusing the Police and they obviously had it in for him, which is well deserved, based on the reports he sounds a right arrogant tw@ and a deserving candidate for a few slaps and a rag dolling.
He's not a very bright chap though because any council estate lad that's had a few run ins with the cops will tell you, it doesn't pay to p1ss them off a few times and put yourself on their radar because one way or another they'll screw you in the end.
Expensive lesson mind, maybe he'll learn to just mumble under his breath like the rest of us in future.
He's not a very bright chap though because any council estate lad that's had a few run ins with the cops will tell you, it doesn't pay to p1ss them off a few times and put yourself on their radar because one way or another they'll screw you in the end.
Expensive lesson mind, maybe he'll learn to just mumble under his breath like the rest of us in future.
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