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Old 09 January 2013 | 09:44 PM
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What i am trying to say is if she can think like: this is the way i am i cant do anything about it so i am not going to let it get me down and if someone doesnt want me its no skin of my nose. I am just going to have fun anyway!
That is more or less how she thinks, she is very positive and just gets on with things. I've known her a long time and have never once heard her complain about her lot.

The thing is she is getting to the age that all her friends are settling down, getting married etc and she doesn't want to be left behind. There's only so many times someone can get rejected and it not get them down.

I don't want to sound preachy and I know it's a huge thing for most people to even consider dating someone who is disabled, I totally get that. Just a shame, that's all.
Old 09 January 2013 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
I think you are mistaking how they are run. A lot of them offer chaperones etc if you can't take a friend. It isn't like match or something where it could be anyone or they could be using someone elses pic.

They are, as I said, vetted first. Notice the blonde lass had to phone someone and have them arrange it? They sent her some profiles and she called to say who she might be interested in. She didn't need to message them or speak until the 'date'.

Mrs works with some as she is a support worker for disabled people.
I understand what you're saying. However, the way these sites are run is of no importance to my original point. In fact, they couldn't be further away from what I have been referring to. I'm talking about physically injured people that can run their own lives and would be horrified at the thought of a care worker. That isn't to take the importance away of your wife's work but it is to clarify the difference between somebody unable to function on their own, needing a care worker, and someone who can.

The very same people I am referring to want to get on with life as close to their pre-accident status and that could mean running a multi-million pound company but just sitting down all day. Meeting women is no different to them as it was before their accident, certain access/time restrictions permitting.
Old 09 January 2013 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon

I don't know the girl in question but I'm willing to bet she has more about her than the majority of SN
That's not much of a gamble though is it?
Old 09 January 2013 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Lydia72
That's not much of a gamble though is it?
No, it isn't.
Old 09 January 2013 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by delcbr
You said shes in a wheel chair she needs some way of welcoming people to her perhaps i know if I asked someone out in a wheelchair the family or the person in the wheelchair would be so angry and probably call the police!!!!
a fun way is to have on her wheelchair i am single what are you waiting for come and speak to me or something funny like my wheels then ask me out! people might laugh but it breaks the ice for sure. Nobody knows shes single shes got to let people know somehow!!!!! as dating sites arent going to work really well people are too picky!!!!

You see the tourettes guy from Galashields Scotland John he wears a t-shirt it says Tourettes a best a man can get!!!!
Its a shame for him hes lonely too and wants to meet someone.
Delcbr, would you like your own advice if you found yourself in a wheelchair after an accident? I mean you probably mean well but suggesting someone uses a "fun" way to attract a boy/girl friend just because they are in a wheelchair makes them sound like they're 6 years of age. It also smacks of pity and would be as welcome as piles. Unfortunately though, your well meaning but ill-thought out idea is rife.

A wheelchair per se doesn't mean you're simple, thick, poor or incapable. It might well mean you're just the opposite too, the wheelchair doesn't define the person. How many people do you, or anybody here for that matter, know with a few quid, their own business and involved in risky hobbies? They could very well be the next wheelchair user. Would you give them the same advice?
Old 09 January 2013 | 11:01 PM
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Business cards.
I see your Business Cards and raise you Radar Ears.
Old 10 January 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
The very same people I am referring to want to get on with life as close to their pre-accident status and that could mean running a multi-million pound company but just sitting down all day. Meeting women is no different to them as it was before their accident, certain access/time restrictions permitting.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

That blonde lass was the best example of what I was talking about and why I think the first part of this is wrong (the bit I have deleted).

The above para sayd "as close to" no matter how much they want to think things haven't changed, they have. It might take a while to see it but that's the case. The only thing stopping them from taking advantage of services like this is pride. I'd probably be the same if it was me but it doesn't mean that the services offered are wrong and they are certainly not made up of weirdos as you suggested.
Old 10 January 2013 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

That blonde lass was the best example of what I was talking about and why I think the first part of this is wrong (the bit I have deleted).

The above para sayd "as close to" no matter how much they want to think things haven't changed, they have. It might take a while to see it but that's the case. The only thing stopping them from taking advantage of services like this is pride. I'd probably be the same if it was me but it doesn't mean that the services offered are wrong and they are certainly not made up of weirdos as you suggested.
Of course we can agree to disagree but let me just tell you what I said in the paragraph you highlighted is fact, not made up, assumed or otherwise, but fact.

Your post doesn't actually make much sense or flow clearly with the thread but just to say of course things change, but often personalities change for the stronger, calmer, more measured and are less bothered with minor niggles that most people would consider a big problem. Yes, it is pride stopping someone mentally able joining a disabled dating service as much as it would be someone who has worked all their life having to sign-on. Neither examples are comfortable. It doesn't mean they are right either but it is the way it works. Why should the addition of a wheelchair mean you have to give in to a disabled way of thinking? Some do, I know lots that shiver at the thought.

I never said the disabled dating services were made up of weirdos. I said "anything set-up for something specifically"' in that I could have referred to car clubs too etc.

On the one hand you say you'd struggle joining up if necessary, Lydia who has excellent second-hand experience, MagePaster who has first-hand experience agree with me yet you say we should agree to disagree.
Old 10 January 2013 | 05:13 PM
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Able-bodied people with no experience of disabilities are not going to join a dating website for disabled people are they? It wouldn't even enter their heads.

So, for an able-bodied person to do that then yes I would think the same thing as Spoon; that they may have a fetish or be a bit weird.
Old 10 January 2013 | 08:48 PM
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I'm still struggling with the "under no circumstances" bit. That's a very strong statement. What first-hand experience do you have, Spoon, that can allow me to understand why it's the wrong choice, in every situation, for somebody with the positive outlook like Lydia's friend?
Old 10 January 2013 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by The Rig
I had the misfortune of watching this show, the remote was too far away to use to turn over so i continued to watch.

To get onto the topic of the disabled lady in this thread who is having issues, maybe she should start to look at herself as disabled, in the eyes of finding mr right, i mean, sure, people can fall in "love" online but when they meet a wheelchair isnt for everybody, if she dated people who knew about her disability at the beginning she wouldnt be so dissapointed each time she replies to a man then tells them and hears nothing back.

sounds harsh but the example of being ginger or blonde isnt really the same type of example, being ginger, unless you live round my way, wont stop you walking up some stairs for example !

i use a dating site since splitting with my ex of 15 yrs and not sure if you have ever watched the show take me out, where the women buzz the guy out if he is wearing funny colour socks, smiled at the wrong time or just wore a black top and didnt match it with the right colour trousers, well, this is what its like in the real world also, on the dating sites anyway !

Its a harsh world out there, i wish her well but sometimes if you fit in a square hole, you need to realise you are a square
Pretty much my take on the matter. Harsh as it may sound, if I arranged to meet someone from a dating site and they turned up with a glaringly obvious physical difference from the norm shall we say, and they hadn't told me previously, that's kinda awkward. I have a very prominent facial scar which I make sure people know about before a date.

My last internet date was going swimmingly until she told me she could see and talk to dead people

About the point that she wouldn't date someone in a wheelchair herself sounds a bit strange. Maybe they don't see themselves as disabled and are independent too.
Old 10 January 2013 | 09:53 PM
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About the point that she wouldn't date someone in a wheelchair herself sounds a bit strange. Maybe they don't see themselves as disabled and are independent too.
It's not that she'd rule it out completely. The problem is it's quite a small pool to choose from. I'm able-bodied and I wouldn't want to date someone a lot older or younger, or someone I didn't find attractive or who had different values or a vast difference in intelligence. I could go out tomorrow night and potentially meet any number of men who fit my conditions.
If I added to that I wanted them to be in a wheelchair the number would fall away drastically.

Just because someone is disabled does not mean they will automatically get on with someone else in a wheelchair, right? So my friend is casting her net wider to try and catch the best fish. Otherwise she might find that there is literally one bloke in a fifty mile radius (and he could be ginger )

What she has said is that if she could meet someone who was also in a 'chair the main problem would be getting around. At the moment she can't drive but even if she could what sort of car would fit two wheelchairs?
She currently uses public transport, buses usually have one wheelchair space, a lot of the time there will be a mother with a pram or buggy taking up that space so then it depends whether the bus driver will ask the mother to fold the buggy or get off the bus (sometimes resulting in my friend being sworn at, complained about etc).
So two wheelchair users together are going to have double the problems, that is her concern.
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I'd have no problem dating a physically disabled person to be honest. When I was going to the gym there was a girl who'd one leg that generally went swimming at the same times as me, she was immensely pretty but sadly way out of my league.

Mentally disabled though? I dunno. Dealing with my own problems is hard enough.

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Old 10 January 2013 | 10:25 PM
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I'm not in the field as it were, but surely for transport there must be easily folded wheelchairs about.

Regarding the pool of dates being smaller, not necessarily. Perhaps the other disabled people on the site would be more willing to date someone in a wheelchair. In any case, what's she got to lose?
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