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20 January 2013, 09:50 AM
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As a slight aside I give to a couple of tiger charities and was a few years ago talking to a woman who was a big donater to one of the charities for helping with famine etc. I was talking to her about how to judge which charities are the best and which seem to spend rather too much on plush offices etc. and saying that for many you can get copies of their accounts if you dig deep enough and that can help and so on.
Towards the end of the conversation she asked me why on earth would I donate to charities helping animals over those helping humans and I, half tongue in cheek, replied that if I helped save starving kids then they might grow up into the sort of people who would kill the tigers I love so much..... she went ballisitc
Trouble is I really would rather help tigers than humans... I guess that makes me a bad person. Oh well! I had better hope God is a tiger lover
Towards the end of the conversation she asked me why on earth would I donate to charities helping animals over those helping humans and I, half tongue in cheek, replied that if I helped save starving kids then they might grow up into the sort of people who would kill the tigers I love so much..... she went ballisitc
Trouble is I really would rather help tigers than humans... I guess that makes me a bad person. Oh well! I had better hope God is a tiger lover
20 January 2013, 10:19 AM
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Do you think its the African children that are asking for your help ?
Parents of those African children do not have children so they can ask for your help in raising them.
Should you really be pissed at Africans that those European NPO's tell you that they need help?
And more importantly, do they really need your help ?
Parents of those African children do not have children so they can ask for your help in raising them.
Should you really be pissed at Africans that those European NPO's tell you that they need help?
And more importantly, do they really need your help ?
20 January 2013, 11:49 AM
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The biggest thing we in the west could do is get rid of CAP.
We appear to be happy to sacrifice millions of Africans, to keep the French farmers happy.
Shameful really
We appear to be happy to sacrifice millions of Africans, to keep the French farmers happy.
Shameful really
20 January 2013, 12:30 PM
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20 January 2013, 01:04 PM
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Africa is a big problem, war, violence, flood, famine, drought and religion, the latter being the biggest problem, they are 1000 years behind the rest of the world, ruled by greedy warlords who take whatever they can get and spend it on Mercedes, gold guns and palaces.
basically most of it is a **** place to populate, rape is commonplace and everything is so macho, so many daft ideas about what makes a man, the Catholic church still holds sway with its outdated ideas on birth control, hence the breeding, death and aids.
There are some decent bits but basically its a ****hole.
basically most of it is a **** place to populate, rape is commonplace and everything is so macho, so many daft ideas about what makes a man, the Catholic church still holds sway with its outdated ideas on birth control, hence the breeding, death and aids.
There are some decent bits but basically its a ****hole.
20 January 2013, 01:27 PM
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20 January 2013, 03:08 PM
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I agree absolutely with what you are saying. To deem it acceptable to let kids die is appalling.
Perhaps the OP and others would like to travel to Africa with clubs and they could play "Club the baby Seal" with kids lying in the dirt.
There is so much Western technology and money that could solve so many of these problems if people stopped being so f,ucking selfish and greedy.
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20 January 2013, 03:08 PM
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I don't doubt that a lot of the money donated probably does not make it to where the donated person intended it.
What I object to is that certain people have stated in this thread that its acceptable for children to die of starvation. A child dying of starvation is never a good thing, surely. As a father of three I find the idea abhorrent.
What I object to is that certain people have stated in this thread that its acceptable for children to die of starvation. A child dying of starvation is never a good thing, surely. As a father of three I find the idea abhorrent.
Fantastic. 
As a mother of two, I too find this idea repugnant.
About charity adverts, they are not like butt-kicking IR adverts demanding the due tax. Giving is a voluntary activity. No one puts a gun to anyone's head to give anything to any one/any charity. People need not give if they don't want to. frikking Simplz.
I do agree that Third World should be practising more birth-control to reduce population burden and it's knock-on effect that the whole world has to share; one way or another.
20 January 2013, 03:50 PM
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20 January 2013, 03:56 PM
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The Wife has just said something interesting.
When girls are anorexic in the west their periods stop ..... through starving themselves.
So, how the hell do these starving women get pregnant!?
When girls are anorexic in the west their periods stop ..... through starving themselves.
So, how the hell do these starving women get pregnant!?
20 January 2013, 04:06 PM
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I tune out when bob geldof and Bono bang on about Africa. When was the original live aid? A whole ago and they still need help. Why?
When Bob gives up all his wealth and throws it at Africa and lives in a box on the street then I will give a little something. Same goes for bono. Why did they move their financials to Luxembourg? Oh yeah a tax dodge. Bet none of that saved money went to africa
When Bob gives up all his wealth and throws it at Africa and lives in a box on the street then I will give a little something. Same goes for bono. Why did they move their financials to Luxembourg? Oh yeah a tax dodge. Bet none of that saved money went to africa
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20 January 2013, 04:12 PM
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It's true .... all these wealthy pop singers and/or actors stood in their vast mansions telling US to give our money.
They could use their accountants to save some tax and pay all of that to Africa and the babies.
They could use their accountants to save some tax and pay all of that to Africa and the babies.
20 January 2013, 04:45 PM
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Have you noticed ,though, that the emphasis is on starving children ? Although the women do feature, they dont look that bad , certainly not starving. and ,surely, if the food situation is that bad, wouldnt the men also be in bad s""" ?
20 January 2013, 04:53 PM
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20 January 2013, 05:33 PM
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Population of Ethiopia at the time of the first Live aid. 43 million. Population today 91 million. Not to mention the Countries with the top 10 highest birth rates in the world are all in Africa. Until you address this issue, all you are doing by blindly donating aid is exacerbating the problem.