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Just priced up some winter tyres for the BMW:
Pirelli SottoZero: £400+VAT EACH < thud >![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
No other tyre available in runflat. And non-runflat isn't an option due to the fact the sodding thing has no space for a spare tyre (nor a jack)
So, £1920 of tyres and thats not including the wheels (I'm not sticking on a set of 15" steels or small cheapy alloys for the entire winter, 19" alloys look lost on the thing)
FYI Pirelli/Good Year summer tyres are about £220+vat in the same size
Pirelli SottoZero: £400+VAT EACH < thud >
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No other tyre available in runflat. And non-runflat isn't an option due to the fact the sodding thing has no space for a spare tyre (nor a jack)
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So, £1920 of tyres and thats not including the wheels (I'm not sticking on a set of 15" steels or small cheapy alloys for the entire winter, 19" alloys look lost on the thing)
FYI Pirelli/Good Year summer tyres are about £220+vat in the same size
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Just priced up some winter tyres for the BMW:
Pirelli SottoZero: £400+VAT EACH < thud >![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
No other tyre available in runflat. And non-runflat isn't an option due to the fact the sodding thing has no space for a spare tyre (nor a jack)
So, £1920 of tyres and thats not including the wheels (I'm not sticking on a set of 15" steels or small cheapy alloys for the entire winter, 19" alloys look lost on the thing)
FYI Pirelli/Good Year summer tyres are about £220+vat in the same size
Pirelli SottoZero: £400+VAT EACH < thud >
![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
No other tyre available in runflat. And non-runflat isn't an option due to the fact the sodding thing has no space for a spare tyre (nor a jack)
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So, £1920 of tyres and thats not including the wheels (I'm not sticking on a set of 15" steels or small cheapy alloys for the entire winter, 19" alloys look lost on the thing)
FYI Pirelli/Good Year summer tyres are about £220+vat in the same size
http://www.reifendirekt.de/cgi-bin/r...t=ALL&weiter=0
I just paid €171 a corner for my Pirelli Sotozero S2 with 3% didscount for being in the ADAC/AA.
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Run flats are a pointless gimmick, get normal tyres and one of these http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_165664
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My Nokians from last year will be getting fitted to the Astra at the weekend, Huge difference in the wet over the standard Goodyears on the Van never mind in the snow.
Subaru probably wont see the road too much in the winter, apart from a snow covered car park.
Cheapest place I found last year for winter tyres was http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/
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Subaru probably wont see the road too much in the winter, apart from a snow covered car park.
Cheapest place I found last year for winter tyres was http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/
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Run flats are a pointless gimmick, get normal tyres and one of these http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_165664
Unlike my current Audi which has non run flats in and no spare - just some goo that for all reports does not work well at all. OK I can sit and wait and ring Audi assist and they will sort it.
Given a choice I would choose run flats - if the car has been designed / suspension set up with them in mind compared to normal tyres and no spare. But a spare tyre would make the most sense
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Just priced up some winter tyres for the BMW:
Pirelli SottoZero: £400+VAT EACH < thud >![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
No other tyre available in runflat. And non-runflat isn't an option due to the fact the sodding thing has no space for a spare tyre (nor a jack)
So, £1920 of tyres and thats not including the wheels (I'm not sticking on a set of 15" steels or small cheapy alloys for the entire winter, 19" alloys look lost on the thing)
FYI Pirelli/Good Year summer tyres are about £220+vat in the same size
Pirelli SottoZero: £400+VAT EACH < thud >
![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
No other tyre available in runflat. And non-runflat isn't an option due to the fact the sodding thing has no space for a spare tyre (nor a jack)
![Mad](images/smilies/mad.gif)
So, £1920 of tyres and thats not including the wheels (I'm not sticking on a set of 15" steels or small cheapy alloys for the entire winter, 19" alloys look lost on the thing)
FYI Pirelli/Good Year summer tyres are about £220+vat in the same size
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No space for a spare (not even a space saver) and being stranded in the middle of France and 200 miles to go to get to the ferry. Plus I'm not going to risk faffing round at the side of a 130kmh autoroute trying to re-inflate a flat tyre...I'd rather be able to limp to a safe place and do it there, where a conventional tyre could well be shredded and beyond repair by then.
Used tyre weld twice before...once it worked, once it didn't work. Still, I have two cans and a compressor in the boot just in case. That way at least all bases are covered: 50 mile range on a flat RFT to wherever I can safetly use the tyre weld and/or pump to re-inflate it.
Don't get me wrong, I hate runflats and if it were local use in the UK I wouldn't use them. Just wish the car had a spare wheel well; all there is two shallow storage trays and a battery plonked in the middle (BMW used to fit them in the OSR corner of the boot).
Used tyre weld twice before...once it worked, once it didn't work. Still, I have two cans and a compressor in the boot just in case. That way at least all bases are covered: 50 mile range on a flat RFT to wherever I can safetly use the tyre weld and/or pump to re-inflate it.
Don't get me wrong, I hate runflats and if it were local use in the UK I wouldn't use them. Just wish the car had a spare wheel well; all there is two shallow storage trays and a battery plonked in the middle (BMW used to fit them in the OSR corner of the boot).
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No space for a spare (not even a space saver) and being stranded in the middle of France and 200 miles to go to get to the ferry. Plus I'm not going to risk faffing round at the side of a 130kmh autoroute trying to re-inflate a flat tyre...I'd rather be able to limp to a safe place and do it there, where a conventional tyre could well be shredded and beyond repair by then.
Used tyre weld twice before...once it worked, once it didn't work. Still, I have two cans and a compressor in the boot just in case. That way at least all bases are covered: 50 mile range on a flat RFT to wherever I can safetly use the tyre weld and/or pump to re-inflate it.
Don't get me wrong, I hate runflats and if it were local use in the UK I wouldn't use them. Just wish the car had a spare wheel well; all there is two shallow storage trays and a battery plonked in the middle (BMW used to fit them in the OSR corner of the boot).
Used tyre weld twice before...once it worked, once it didn't work. Still, I have two cans and a compressor in the boot just in case. That way at least all bases are covered: 50 mile range on a flat RFT to wherever I can safetly use the tyre weld and/or pump to re-inflate it.
Don't get me wrong, I hate runflats and if it were local use in the UK I wouldn't use them. Just wish the car had a spare wheel well; all there is two shallow storage trays and a battery plonked in the middle (BMW used to fit them in the OSR corner of the boot).
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Like I said already no space in the boot for a spare...due to: dog...luggage, contraband (legal
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If there was a space wheel under the floor of the boot like old BMWs used to have, I'd gladly do that....short of bolting the wheel to the tailgate like a old 4x4 there is nowhere else for it to go.
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If there was a space wheel under the floor of the boot like old BMWs used to have, I'd gladly do that....short of bolting the wheel to the tailgate like a old 4x4 there is nowhere else for it to go.
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though i dont use runflats on the scoob, you could try this place which is where i purchased my winters from a couple of years back ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
www.goodgrip.co.uk
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My mother bought a set of winter tyres last year, even she says they make a massive difference in wet conditions. Don't tell me a 65 year old woman can see the difference and benefits of these and the die hard petrol heads on here can't?
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Agreed it depends where you are in the country and how much you need to use your car, but the economics is a different argument to the physics.
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Having read this thread I'm frankly gobsmacked at some of the ignorant and stupid comments coming from the 'too expensive waste of time corner'
Just as a good performing summer tyre can transform the handling and braking characteristics of your car so too can a decent set of winter boots once the temps start to drop. If you need to stand a better chance of getting about it really is a no brainer.
I'm guessing the majority of folks opposed to 'winter tyres' have NEVER actually had the opportunity to make a comparison. If you have then your objection can only be purely financial so I'm guessing you would be in the 'not in a position to take that advice so will take a gamble' even if it was to become law !'
If your happy wearing slippers outdoors in the winter months then your highlighting how dumb you are !
It really isnt a case of having a chuckle because you look a bit of a dick when you fall **** over tit and anyway harsh weather conditions are always a great excuse if your not particularly in love with your job and realise those summer slicks might not be actually up to the job ! But if you are crazy enough to venture out in your metal box of choice this winter without a suitable pair of boots on your far more likely to inconvenience other people or even worse, damage property or god forbid injure someone. And for those that are likely to retort with the ' it never gets bad enough where I drive' then you can be forgiven and I want you to text me next weeks lottery results !
We still have a choice in the UK regarding the tyres we decide to operate in the winter months. I know which one i'll be making again
Just as a good performing summer tyre can transform the handling and braking characteristics of your car so too can a decent set of winter boots once the temps start to drop. If you need to stand a better chance of getting about it really is a no brainer.
I'm guessing the majority of folks opposed to 'winter tyres' have NEVER actually had the opportunity to make a comparison. If you have then your objection can only be purely financial so I'm guessing you would be in the 'not in a position to take that advice so will take a gamble' even if it was to become law !'
If your happy wearing slippers outdoors in the winter months then your highlighting how dumb you are !
It really isnt a case of having a chuckle because you look a bit of a dick when you fall **** over tit and anyway harsh weather conditions are always a great excuse if your not particularly in love with your job and realise those summer slicks might not be actually up to the job ! But if you are crazy enough to venture out in your metal box of choice this winter without a suitable pair of boots on your far more likely to inconvenience other people or even worse, damage property or god forbid injure someone. And for those that are likely to retort with the ' it never gets bad enough where I drive' then you can be forgiven and I want you to text me next weeks lottery results !
We still have a choice in the UK regarding the tyres we decide to operate in the winter months. I know which one i'll be making again
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Having read this thread I'm frankly gobsmacked at some of the ignorant and stupid comments coming from the 'too expensive waste of time corner'
Just as a good performing summer tyre can transform the handling and braking characteristics of your car so too can a decent set of winter boots once the temps start to drop. If you need to stand a better chance of getting about it really is a no brainer.
I'm guessing the majority of folks opposed to 'winter tyres' have NEVER actually had the opportunity to make a comparison. If you have then your objection can only be purely financial so I'm guessing you would be in the 'not in a position to take that advice so will take a gamble' even if it was to become law !'
If your happy wearing slippers outdoors in the winter months then your highlighting how dumb you are !
It really isnt a case of having a chuckle because you look a bit of a dick when you fall **** over tit and anyway harsh weather conditions are always a great excuse if your not particularly in love with your job and realise those summer slicks might not be actually up to the job ! But if you are crazy enough to venture out in your metal box of choice this winter without a suitable pair of boots on your far more likely to inconvenience other people or even worse, damage property or god forbid injure someone. And for those that are likely to retort with the ' it never gets bad enough where I drive' then you can be forgiven and I want you to text me next weeks lottery results !
We still have a choice in the UK regarding the tyres we decide to operate in the winter months. I know which one i'll be making again
Just as a good performing summer tyre can transform the handling and braking characteristics of your car so too can a decent set of winter boots once the temps start to drop. If you need to stand a better chance of getting about it really is a no brainer.
I'm guessing the majority of folks opposed to 'winter tyres' have NEVER actually had the opportunity to make a comparison. If you have then your objection can only be purely financial so I'm guessing you would be in the 'not in a position to take that advice so will take a gamble' even if it was to become law !'
If your happy wearing slippers outdoors in the winter months then your highlighting how dumb you are !
It really isnt a case of having a chuckle because you look a bit of a dick when you fall **** over tit and anyway harsh weather conditions are always a great excuse if your not particularly in love with your job and realise those summer slicks might not be actually up to the job ! But if you are crazy enough to venture out in your metal box of choice this winter without a suitable pair of boots on your far more likely to inconvenience other people or even worse, damage property or god forbid injure someone. And for those that are likely to retort with the ' it never gets bad enough where I drive' then you can be forgiven and I want you to text me next weeks lottery results !
We still have a choice in the UK regarding the tyres we decide to operate in the winter months. I know which one i'll be making again
They shine on compacted snow and ice, and how often are conditions like that, and how often are you going to take your scooby out then?
Otherwise they give low grip and a squishy ride
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I live out in the sticks so every year we get weather like that and the council don't treat the smaller roads just the main roads so winter tyres are very useful.
My Scooby is used every day.
The ride is a bit odd but it's better than ending upside down in a ditch.
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Having read this thread I'm frankly gobsmacked at some of the ignorant and stupid comments coming from the 'too expensive waste of time corner'
Just as a good performing summer tyre can transform the handling and braking characteristics of your car so too can a decent set of winter boots once the temps start to drop. If you need to stand a better chance of getting about it really is a no brainer.
I'm guessing the majority of folks opposed to 'winter tyres' have NEVER actually had the opportunity to make a comparison. If you have then your objection can only be purely financial so I'm guessing you would be in the 'not in a position to take that advice so will take a gamble' even if it was to become law !'
If your happy wearing slippers outdoors in the winter months then your highlighting how dumb you are !
It really isnt a case of having a chuckle because you look a bit of a dick when you fall **** over tit and anyway harsh weather conditions are always a great excuse if your not particularly in love with your job and realise those summer slicks might not be actually up to the job ! But if you are crazy enough to venture out in your metal box of choice this winter without a suitable pair of boots on your far more likely to inconvenience other people or even worse, damage property or god forbid injure someone. And for those that are likely to retort with the ' it never gets bad enough where I drive' then you can be forgiven and I want you to text me next weeks lottery results !
We still have a choice in the UK regarding the tyres we decide to operate in the winter months. I know which one i'll be making again
Just as a good performing summer tyre can transform the handling and braking characteristics of your car so too can a decent set of winter boots once the temps start to drop. If you need to stand a better chance of getting about it really is a no brainer.
I'm guessing the majority of folks opposed to 'winter tyres' have NEVER actually had the opportunity to make a comparison. If you have then your objection can only be purely financial so I'm guessing you would be in the 'not in a position to take that advice so will take a gamble' even if it was to become law !'
If your happy wearing slippers outdoors in the winter months then your highlighting how dumb you are !
It really isnt a case of having a chuckle because you look a bit of a dick when you fall **** over tit and anyway harsh weather conditions are always a great excuse if your not particularly in love with your job and realise those summer slicks might not be actually up to the job ! But if you are crazy enough to venture out in your metal box of choice this winter without a suitable pair of boots on your far more likely to inconvenience other people or even worse, damage property or god forbid injure someone. And for those that are likely to retort with the ' it never gets bad enough where I drive' then you can be forgiven and I want you to text me next weeks lottery results !
We still have a choice in the UK regarding the tyres we decide to operate in the winter months. I know which one i'll be making again
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Ah cool the annual winter tyre thread that gets shot down by the BMW drivers who have never had them, don't need them or think the weather doesn't warrent them.
To Losboz, you are wasting your breath and typing finger mate everyone on scoobynet personally trained the Stig so are by definition driving gods in any conditions.
But well done for trying, these threads cause an endless source of amusemnt every year, slowly followed by the how much is a new set of alloys as I just bent my last set threads. Along with the I put my 4wd car in the garage and use my rear wheel drive (insert german crap here) in the winter threads.
To Losboz, you are wasting your breath and typing finger mate everyone on scoobynet personally trained the Stig so are by definition driving gods in any conditions.
But well done for trying, these threads cause an endless source of amusemnt every year, slowly followed by the how much is a new set of alloys as I just bent my last set threads. Along with the I put my 4wd car in the garage and use my rear wheel drive (insert german crap here) in the winter threads.
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Do you think so ????????
I run a transport business and when I see the myriad of In-dash cams of incidents in the winter months it hits home how totally ignorant most drivers/operators are of the benefits of running appropriate rubber in the UK.
Its a legal requirement in many European countries and while it is another cost we have to swallow along with the inconvenience of carrying two sets of wheel/tyres and chains on long Euro trips you only have to look at the chaos a cold snap or tiny snowfall causes over here. Yes local councils don't have either the money or resources to keep on top of it and I suspect a large factor of personal decisions is the fact its never a given that parts of the country will actually get any snow at all ! But their not just for snowy conditions and this is what so many folks just don't understand !
Yes maybe I am a little biased but when our vehicles NEED to get places its numpties who slide, spin and fishtail up and down our byways who add to the problem.
I can relate to those who don't have to travel far over winter and really cant justify the additional expense but like the f***wits who drive without lights when its tipping it down its not themselves their endangering its every other bugger
I run a transport business and when I see the myriad of In-dash cams of incidents in the winter months it hits home how totally ignorant most drivers/operators are of the benefits of running appropriate rubber in the UK.
Its a legal requirement in many European countries and while it is another cost we have to swallow along with the inconvenience of carrying two sets of wheel/tyres and chains on long Euro trips you only have to look at the chaos a cold snap or tiny snowfall causes over here. Yes local councils don't have either the money or resources to keep on top of it and I suspect a large factor of personal decisions is the fact its never a given that parts of the country will actually get any snow at all ! But their not just for snowy conditions and this is what so many folks just don't understand !
Yes maybe I am a little biased but when our vehicles NEED to get places its numpties who slide, spin and fishtail up and down our byways who add to the problem.
I can relate to those who don't have to travel far over winter and really cant justify the additional expense but like the f***wits who drive without lights when its tipping it down its not themselves their endangering its every other bugger