jef

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yeah no dounbting its interesting to watch - if id seen it i wouldve watched it,

but all studies and findings are generally aimed at the population - the reason there is so much varience and controvertial findings is that each person is different and would have different responses - at extremes the findings can well be out with the norm yet still applicable.

the task of guiding a large number of people, can not really be more than a rough guesstimate
at individual level, tests and results will be more clearly defined - but not as widely applicable.
there will always be those that promote, atkins diets, portion reduction diet, cycling over swimming, weights over running, HIT over regular training and they will believe and be able to prove results.
but they are generally the exception of the rule, although possibly still legitimate.

as is i beleive the case is here, and with many fad diets or training programmes - worsened i believe by opportunistic media coverage

Matteeboy

I guess it gets the unfit a bit fitter. But I can't see many properly fit people gaining much.

Why fi people try so hard to dodge exercise?!!

scoobynutta555

Can't see the fuss! Obviously this form of exercise won't satisfy fitness bods, but surely there's a benefit to it rather than nothing. 4 mins a day is hardly taking a lump out of your day. It may well encourage people who don't do anything to start some fitness up. Not every person is an ironman competitor!
My reasons are to get some sort of fitness back before going back onto the bike, certainly not replacing it. I've just started doing the same 4 min thing with press ups. Even though I'm just 2 sessions in I feel better for it and not feeling guilty that I've done nothing.

dpb

I can't see a problem either save the scenario some 25 stone lardarse never done a days in his life trys this and doesn't keel over and we have to pay for his hospital fees

andy97

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Any fitness activity is doing some good. I've started cycling, I do about an hour on the exercise bike which is quite intensive. I run up to 95% maximum heart rate is bursts over the hour and hold a high 75-85% heart rate over the hour. I try and go out with my brother who can cycle me into the ground, but this pushes my performance. I have also started circuit training which is an absolute killer over 35 minutes, but my strength in my legs for cycling has improved quite a bit because of it :-)

I did try 20 second burst training but it makes me feel like **** afterwards

^OPM^

I have been doing the Shaun T insanity workouts now since about November and they are also a form of HIIT training but they vary as there is about 12 different workout videos to do ranging from roughly 20 min abs workouts up to over an hour circuit style training.

Altho they are a form of HIIT they are not just 20 second burst over a 4 minute period end of tho, as they tend to be a 3 min burst followed by 30 second rest then another 3 minute burst etc.In this 3 minute burst you will do 4 different exercises so you do 45 seconds on each exercise.

Doing these mainly to keep up my cycling fitness over winter where i dont ride as much cos of crap weather and even now i seat bucket loads doing them and still cant keep up and do the full 45 seconds of every exercise, tend to keep up on the leg routines but struggle on the ones involving arms.

To try and get my arms/shoulders a bit stronger i then do somewhere between 30 - 40 press-ups and end of the workout and then 10 - 12 pull ups on my chinning bar.

As i say whether it works or not i still struggle to do them and sweat loads so must be doing some good to me, or it had better be doing so as i would hate to be going thro this much pain for sod all

DYK

I seen this DVD workout on Amazon,bit pricey but has lots of positive reviews...

andy97

iTrader: (1)

This is the circuit I'm using, it is tough to keep up with "T". If you are unfit and decide to try it, do not try and match the pace or intensity of the video for the first number of sessions

DYK

Oh no been into sports/fitness from a young age,its just once you've been around it over the years you get to see/read so many books and Vids that offer you GUARANTEED results in x amount of weeks.

As the Shaun T was mentioned on here,decided to go back to Amazon and have a look in more detail at it.Must admit its got me a bit curious and a lot of positive feed back.
Might be worth breaking my own workouts and giving it a go...

andy97

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I used to weight train into my early 20s then it fell away. After cycling for a few months, I am okay with fitness, but given all Insanity is, is high intensity circuit training I was surprised at the level it starts with. The diet is the key. I bet I could achieve the same results by mixing it up combination of cycling and Insanity. That is my intention

jef

iTrader: (13)

Shaun T= Tavernier?

my take is this is not in comparison to general training programmes - but rated against no routine.

in which case it would be likely beneficial, and possibly even when compared to a sustained regular plan - which as ive said is not an effective, in general terms in increasing fitness.
id like to ask every sports coahes, advicsors, scientists, ect ect ect if they think 4 mins of HIT is sufficient to increase fitness in those already having a reasonable fitness - above and beyond, over a sustained period of time.

i dont really need to as, i no the answer already - to promote this kind of regime to the masses as an alternative to accepted exercise protocols, is frankly ridiculous. it doesnt really warrant the 4 minutes per week effort put in.

^OPM^

Shaun T = Thompson i think

jef

iTrader: (13)

oh, so not

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...9QEwAA&dur=876

mgcvk

I have gone back to the gym on a moderately special offer, but I'm now so hungry all the time I think I feel fitter not going and just going out on my push bike and doing some sit ups.

zip106

Christ.

I'd rather be able to run faster and further than him, and still have a bit of a gut, than look like that!

And I like not having a **** like a shrivelled walnut, like him.

Matteeboy

It is possible to be able to lift a few weights, run far and still not have a gut you know. But that is quite minging.

zip106

When I say gut, I mean not a full on six-pack.

dpb

Is that some kind dodgy fake tan they spray on or is it straight forward creosote

dpb

Obviously not the black guy , he doesnt need it

Matteeboy

Slacker ;-)

DYK

HAHA so i got home this evening and yes i did order the insanity workout and jumped straight into the 1 minute per exercise fit test..

so my first time results are below

Switch kicks=85
Power Jacks=55
Power Knees=62
Power Jumps=30
Globe Jumps=9
Suicide Jumps=15
Push up Jacks=32
Low Plank Oblique=33....

andy97

iTrader: (1)

Please don't say it was easy as well.
Bloody good results

DYK

Didn't even break a sweat

Neanderthal

iTrader: (6)

Tomorrow I'll wake up and do some P90x...

^OPM^

Those are damn good results for the first time fit test compared to mine - are you young and very fit already? or was i just rubbish?

DYK

I'm 34 and was super fit a few years back,i would still say i'm fit now but not at the same level as i were,
time to get my *** back in gear.

Berks-Jack

iTrader: (10)

Will you also 'meet a really nice girl, and have some really nice sex'???

scoobynutta555

I've just done 4 sessions of the high intensity training on my spinner. Went out today for the first time on the bikes with the lads and felt really good. I've had first rides after an absence before that were gruelling. It may or may not be nothing to do with the brief spins I did beforehand, but I feel if I'd done nothing I'd have felt quite bad today. I 'breezed' up the hills today. I'm going to continue on the spinner on the days I don't go out on bike.

andy97

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I've experienced similar performance improvement by varying training methods. The problem is sustaining that improvement.