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Old 13 February 2013, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
close the door to the kitchen? lol
And leave them in the hallway……at least the kitchen is tiled. I would probably come down to shredded carpet in the landing and a nice turd on the wooden flooring downstairs.
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Just picked a cheapy £1 job up at lunch so lets see how that goes
It'll work
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I'm curious as to why you confine them to the kitchen, why not let them roam around the house?
Its a cats natural instinct to be up high, so if you confine them to the kitchen, they'll be on the worktops no matter what you do. Deterrents will only work for a short time. Cats are resourceful and will find a way to beat your deterrent.
I would suggest letting them have more freedom.

I could never confine my Bengal cat to one room unless I wanted that room destroyed.
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Originally Posted by scunnered
I'm curious as to why you confine them to the kitchen, why not let them roam around the house?
Its a cats natural instinct to be up high, so if you confine them to the kitchen, they'll be on the worktops no matter what you do. Deterrents will only work for a short time. Cats are resourceful and will find a way to beat your deterrent.
I would suggest letting them have more freedom.

I could never confine my Bengal cat to one room unless I wanted that room destroyed.
These are my thoughts exactly. Cats like to be up high so they can survey the horizon for prey, bit like big cats in the wild who will find a high spot. My cat (British Blue) likes any window sills and also my son's plastic slide in the garden. He has never caught anything in his life, so he's quite happy to just look

Boredom might be a factor as to why she's up there. They are naturally inquisitive, so any part of a room they're in will get explored. Let's face it, you'd be pretty bored in the same place all of the time with no entertainment except a lazy boy cat to annoy. And that is probably the reason the boy cat is on the floor, he's too lazy to climb
Old 13 February 2013, 05:29 PM
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If you are not letting the cats outside then they need entertaining, they need stimulus. Cats will naturally jump up, it is their nature to do so, get a tall climbing frame with differing levels so that they can explore that. To deter them from anything then the waterpistol and a sharp "No" will work, but only of course when you are there. They can be trained to keep off curtains/furniture etc but you have to provide an alternative hence the climbing frame that normally doubles up as a scratching post.

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landmine, or keep the vermin outside.
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Scunnered and Clarebabes are right. Give your cats freedom to roam about in your house. They like lording around all over the place. When you start letting them out, you'll see that they like walking in and out of the house as and when they like. They are the bosses, you are their slaves, end of. So, stop enslaving them, do as it suits them.

On turd business, your kitties should always be litter trained. They are very intelligent like that. Mine even use downstairs toilet sometimes. I worry about them falling into the toilet, so I prefer them either going out for turd or doing it on their litter trays.
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Originally Posted by scunnered
I'm curious as to why you confine them to the kitchen, why not let them roam around the house?
Its a cats natural instinct to be up high, so if you confine them to the kitchen, they'll be on the worktops no matter what you do. Deterrents will only work for a short time. Cats are resourceful and will find a way to beat your deterrent.
I would suggest letting them have more freedom.

I could never confine my Bengal cat to one room unless I wanted that room destroyed.
+1, couldn't make sense of this thread until I realized the moggies were banned from the rest of the house. Crazy idea, and rather cruel IMO.
Old 13 February 2013, 06:23 PM
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you think you got problems mate, if i put foil out they **** on it. i got 3 cats, 2 of them hate each other and have started scenting in the house. i`m having to build a conservatory for them to live in.

and btw to the poster who says his cat drinks out the tap, cats like running water
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Originally Posted by stedee
you think you got problems mate, if i put foil out they **** on it. i got 3 cats, 2 of them hate each other and have started scenting in the house. i`m having to build a conservatory for them to live in.
My cats don't p!ss on the kitchen foil or anything, they go nuts at it instead. They both love shiney things, strings and spiders. They love staring at birds for hours! Occasionally they catch them as well.

and btw to the poster who says his cat drinks out the tap, cats like running water
Really? Mine do drink out of the tap, but only the dripping or a mildly p!ssing tap. If I open the tap full on, they leg it like hell! I thought they hate rain, running water etc. Then again, there are videos on Youtube where some cats love all sorts of water. Some of them are even very good swimmers. My B&W fat cat likes rain and snow. He often comes in soaked, but loves being dried with towel and hair dryer.
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maybe its instinct but one of mine does the same, licks the tap rather than out of the bowl unless its very fresh. he doesnt like it gushing out either. i wish my one cat loved being dried off when wet, he just prefers to either jump on your lap or run round the house leaving dirty prints everywhere
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My moggies will drink water from a bowl, however my Bengal will only drink running water. I bought him a pet drinking fountain as he was always demanding the bath tap be kept running for him.
By the way, he enjoys playing in water as most Bengals do. Actually, he likes going in the bath and shower, and getting the bathroom soaked in the process.
One night he brought a 2Kg bag of dried food upstairs and dropped it on my head while I was sleeping.
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Originally Posted by scunnered
My moggies will drink water from a bowl, however my Bengal will only drink running water. I bought him a pet drinking fountain as he was always demanding the bath tap be kept running for him.
By the way, he enjoys playing in water as most Bengals do. Actually, he likes going in the bath and shower, and getting the bathroom soaked in the process.
One night he brought a 2Kg bag of dried food upstairs and dropped it on my head while I was sleeping.
Sorry Scunnered, I shouldn't laugh, but
These little kitty creatures are so amusing.
Old 13 February 2013, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Some of them are even very good swimmers.
Not all of them like swimming apparently.

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Originally Posted by scunnered
My moggies will drink water from a bowl, however my Bengal will only drink running water. I bought him a pet drinking fountain as he was always demanding the bath tap be kept running for him.
By the way, he enjoys playing in water as most Bengals do. Actually, he likes going in the bath and shower, and getting the bathroom soaked in the process.
One night he brought a 2Kg bag of dried food upstairs and dropped it on my head while I was sleeping.

Bengals are surprisingly clever, my mothers has worked out how to open doors!
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Not all of them like swimming apparently.

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I just went around, searching the info on Bengal cat on internet. Not that I can accommodate one with my two gems already in hand, but I was just curious. I found that the certified young ones are as expensive as 600 quid! Internet also said that the more original they are, more they like playing in water. I also read that you should buy F4, meaning fourth generation??? I guess if you buy any earlier generation, it could be a cannibalistic cat like a proper leopard.

What are Bengals like in affection department? Are they cuddly and affectionate or snobbish/unfriendly/too defensive; like Siamese?
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
I just went around, searching the info on Bengal cat on internet. Not that I can accommodate one with my two gems already in hand, but I was just curious. I found that the certified young ones are as expensive as 600 quid! Internet also said that the more original they are, more they like playing in water. I also read that you should buy F4, meaning fourth generation??? I guess if you buy any earlier generation, it could be a cannibalistic cat like a proper leopard.

What are Bengals like in affection department? Are they cuddly and affectionate or snobbish/unfriendly/too defensive; like Siamese?
My folks have an F3 Marbled and an F4 Spotted, the F3 is in a different league to the F4, God only knows WTF an F1 or an F2 (if they even exist) must be like, completely bonkers I would think

The F3 will quite happily sit on your knee for hours "if he wants". Saying that I've seen him go walkabouts for weeks at time and being away as long as five weeks once before.

I would say they are quite friendly overall.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Bengals are surprisingly clever, my mothers has worked out how to open doors!
That's an easy one for a Bengal.
My Bengal can open doors, cupboards, and drawers. He knows I turn the key to open the front door. However, no matter how much he tries, this skill has so far eluded him.
One day I heard a noise in the kitchen. Then the cat comes through with a fork in his mouth. He dropped it at my feet looking so proud of himself. He'd opened the cutlery drawer. Then I watched him open another drawer and steal a pen. He's forever raiding the kitchen for stuff. Whatever he steals, he always drops it at my feet (or my head if I'm asleep)
Bengals are completely different from "normal" cats.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
My folks have an F3 Marbled and an F4 Spotted, the F3 is in a different league to the F4, God only knows WTF an F1 or an F2 (if they even exist) must be like, completely bonkers I would think

The F3 will quite happily sit on your knee for hours "if he wants". Saying that I've seen him go walkabouts for weeks at time and being away as long as five weeks once before.

I would say they are quite friendly overall.
Wow, very intersting. Bengals do sound cool. Siamese also look so very intriguing and unreal that you want to know them. But when you want to know them, they run a mile. Their owners say that they are defensive and distant to them, too. Then they (not their owners but the Siamese themselves) come to scare my cats, and tear my bins. As Bengals aren't just wild and free agents but also affectionate, that makes them into better pets IMO.
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Originally Posted by scunnered
Bengals are completely different from "normal" cats.
Yup, got to agree on that one. I can even take my mums one walks!

Seriously I can go for a walk and the ******* cat will walk beside me then come home with me again.
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Originally Posted by scunnered
That's an easy one for a Bengal.
My Bengal can open doors, cupboards, and drawers. He knows I turn the key to open the front door. However, no matter how much he tries, this skill has so far eluded him.
One day I heard a noise in the kitchen. Then the cat comes through with a fork in his mouth. He dropped it at my feet looking so proud of himself. He'd opened the cutlery drawer. Then I watched him open another drawer and steal a pen. He's forever raiding the kitchen for stuff. Whatever he steals, he always drops it at my feet (or my head if I'm asleep)
Bengals are completely different from "normal" cats.
Wow, that's amazing!

My B&W Tom cat occasionally drops his hunted birds and dead rat babies at my feet, but nothing like your Bengal opening drawers and pulling out cutlery. My B&W also dances on my duvet with his little feet going "one, two, one, two" in hope to wake me up. He tries to pull my nose ring with his little paw to wake me up sometimes. I think these acts are normal for most cats. People say that it's not unheard of normal cats using human toilets for their wee and poo business, but somewhat unusual. I'm very proud of both of my 'common' cats.

I may get a Bengal cat one day. The only thing is that I don't want to p!ss my existing cats off. The brown moggy remained emotionally scarred for a long time since we got our B&W fatty. They are better with each other now, but brownie still hisses at him.
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The first generation hybrid Filial 1 Bengals and savannahs cannot be kept as a normal pet, and a "dangerous wild animal" license is required. You must also have a secure enclosure. Under no circumstances should they be allowed to roam outside. From F2 onwards, they can be kept like a normal pet. These early generation cats are more difficult in that they'll probably still have certain wild tendencies like spraying, and a distrust of people. They will bond very well to the people they know but will be very shy with strangers. Its true that a decent SBT "pet class" Bengal will be £400 to £600. A few years ago they were considerably more. Breeding and show class kittens can be thousands. (An F1 Savannah female can be £20k and the F1 male be as big as 5 times normal cat size)
They are far more intelligent than normal cats, and most can be trained in a similar way to dogs. They have extremely high energy levels, and are extremely resourceful in their ability for problem solving.
They have a different type of fur as well. They don't have an undercoat and the hairs are hollow. When the sunlight hits them they have a glitter effect.
Also these cats are very muscular. Its strongly advised that males be neutered if they are to go outside. Its been known for an un-neutered male to kill other males cats in their territory.

http://www.bengalcatforums.com/forums/

Have a look on youtube for their amazing ability.
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Bengals are surprisingly clever, my mothers has worked out how to open doors!
I have a silver tabby, it worked out how to open the bathroom door when you're in having a dump
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Originally Posted by scunnered
The first generation hybrid Filial 1 Bengals and savannahs cannot be kept as a normal pet, and a "dangerous wild animal" license is required. You must also have a secure enclosure. Under no circumstances should they be allowed to roam outside. From F2 onwards, they can be kept like a normal pet. These early generation cats are more difficult in that they'll probably still have certain wild tendencies like spraying, and a distrust of people. They will bond very well to the people they know but will be very shy with strangers. Its true that a decent SBT "pet class" Bengal will be £400 to £600. A few years ago they were considerably more. Breeding and show class kittens can be thousands. (An F1 Savannah female can be £20k and the F1 male be as big as 5 times normal cat size)
They are far more intelligent than normal cats, and most can be trained in a similar way to dogs. They have extremely high energy levels, and are extremely resourceful in their ability for problem solving.
They have a different type of fur as well. They don't have an undercoat and the hairs are hollow. When the sunlight hits them they have a glitter effect.
Also these cats are very muscular. Its strongly advised that males be neutered if they are to go outside. Its been known for an un-neutered male to kill other males cats in their territory.

http://www.bengalcatforums.com/forums/

Have a look on youtube for their amazing ability.
Wow.

Bengal kitten is on cards for me. May be, one day. I just don't want to get an outstanding cat for mere show-off reasons, like some of my friends have unfriendly Siamese who run away from their owners all the time. I want my cat to be friendly and responsive to me. Bengal is an affectionate type, so that is a good thing.
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When I had cats, (before I matured and got a dog), I cured them of jumping on worktops with cheap pepper.

Bought it ultra cheap at supermarket, placed a trail about 1" in from worktop edge, wiped up in the morning. Cats won't go near.
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Good idea too
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Trouble is, cats usually do just what they want unless they have had a fright and then they will keep away.

Trying to keep them off the worksurfaces is virtually impossible. Its too convenoent and interesting a place. Our cat is just as bad and we have come to the conclusion that all we can do is to give it all a good clean up afterwards.

He is such a good looking cat and so easy to like that we are happy enough to put up with it.

Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Trouble is, cats usually do just what they want unless they have had a fright and then they will keep away.

Trying to keep them off the worksurfaces is virtually impossible. Its too convenoent and interesting a place. Our cat is just as bad and we have come to the conclusion that all we can do is to give it all a good clean up afterwards.

He is such a good looking cat and so easy to like that we are happy enough to put up with it.

Les
This thread is now worthless without pictures. I want to see P1Fanatic's naughty kittens, Scunnered's Bengali cat, and Co., RADunk's mum's cat, your irresistible cat and everyone else’s lovely kitties.
Let's have a look.


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