Disciplinary action over supposed racial connotation
18 March 2013, 12:22 AM
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18 March 2013, 12:29 AM
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It's all about how someone perceives it. As a police officer, I could arrest someone if they said something that I thought could offend someone. It may not, or could not, but if I think it may have done, than that would be enough to warrant arrest. In my personal opinion, it's all the bleeding-heart artists and touchy feely politically-correct nonsense that has created this. If you have a problem with someone, you report something based on a perception, rather than an offense. That way, you don't need to prove what they meant by it, just how you feel about it.
PC Hughes is now SGT Hughes and i personally know him but we've never seen eye to eye
Now, am i right in saying a turban is a cultural head piece and is not attributed to a particular race of person.?
18 March 2013, 12:33 AM
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like this;
Who's the racist? - YouTube
PC Hughes is now SGT Hughes and i personally know him but we've never seen eye to eye
Now, am i right in saying a turban is a cultural head piece and is not attributed to a particular race of person.?
Who's the racist? - YouTube
PC Hughes is now SGT Hughes and i personally know him but we've never seen eye to eye
Now, am i right in saying a turban is a cultural head piece and is not attributed to a particular race of person.?
He didn't let him finish the song. He might of sung, "I'd rather wear a turban than eat dogsh*t".
18 March 2013, 12:38 AM
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TBH, now I've watched the clip, to me that just looks like he wanted an easy arrest to get off the busy streets, where he may have ended up dealing with a proper job.
18 March 2013, 12:41 AM
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It doesn't even have to be something that has been said. It can be how the 'victim' says the 'offender' made them feel. It could be anything from ignoring them, to being over-friendly, or anywhere in between.
18 March 2013, 12:59 AM
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Could they then not counter claim that they are being victimised because they are of a different race? They may feel that it is the fact that they are white that has landed them with this disciplinary and that in itself is racist.
18 March 2013, 01:03 AM
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This is probably not good advice, but it's a shame he can not turn this on it's head and make those complaining look bad.
He explains how the comment was meant, plenty of examples could be made regarding the use of this term generally (not race related) and then go for the trump card and suggest that they are the ones that are actually stating that their own race are animals. He has made a general comment about behaviour, one I have used many times, they are the ones making the link to race/ethnicity.
This says way more about them than your friend, and I wish him the bes of luck.
He explains how the comment was meant, plenty of examples could be made regarding the use of this term generally (not race related) and then go for the trump card and suggest that they are the ones that are actually stating that their own race are animals. He has made a general comment about behaviour, one I have used many times, they are the ones making the link to race/ethnicity.
This says way more about them than your friend, and I wish him the bes of luck.
18 March 2013, 01:05 AM
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This is probably not good advice, but it's a shame he can not turn this on it's head and make those complaining look bad.
He explains how the comment was meant, plenty of examples could be made regarding the use of this term generally (not race related) and then go for the trump card and suggest that they are the ones that are actually stating that their own race are animals. He has made a general comment about behaviour, one I have used many times, they are the ones making the link to race/ethnicity.
This says way more about them than your friend, and I wish him the bes of luck.
He explains how the comment was meant, plenty of examples could be made regarding the use of this term generally (not race related) and then go for the trump card and suggest that they are the ones that are actually stating that their own race are animals. He has made a general comment about behaviour, one I have used many times, they are the ones making the link to race/ethnicity.
This says way more about them than your friend, and I wish him the bes of luck.
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18 March 2013, 01:07 AM
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I was absolutely fuming as I was only trying to help.
18 March 2013, 06:39 PM
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Not much to report. People seem to be backtracking. From being told that they would receive disciplinary action the head has said that no further action will take place.
I am very unimpressed with the whole affair, what was said hasn't changed so why should the way its viewed and dealt with change? I am not complaining that no action will take place but why say that it will, cause so much stress and worry only to casually pass it off and say nothing more will come of it? I personally think they should apologise, but there is more chance of the proverbial pig to start flying than for that to ever happen.
I am very unimpressed with the whole affair, what was said hasn't changed so why should the way its viewed and dealt with change? I am not complaining that no action will take place but why say that it will, cause so much stress and worry only to casually pass it off and say nothing more will come of it? I personally think they should apologise, but there is more chance of the proverbial pig to start flying than for that to ever happen.
18 March 2013, 06:46 PM
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I would suggest that you tell your friend to complain about how they felt victimised over this, however, I doubt it would do any good. Probably best just to put it behind them.
19 March 2013, 10:33 AM
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Not much to report. People seem to be backtracking. From being told that they would receive disciplinary action the head has said that no further action will take place.
I am very unimpressed with the whole affair, what was said hasn't changed so why should the way its viewed and dealt with change? I am not complaining that no action will take place but why say that it will, cause so much stress and worry only to casually pass it off and say nothing more will come of it? I personally think they should apologise, but there is more chance of the proverbial pig to start flying than for that to ever happen.
I am very unimpressed with the whole affair, what was said hasn't changed so why should the way its viewed and dealt with change? I am not complaining that no action will take place but why say that it will, cause so much stress and worry only to casually pass it off and say nothing more will come of it? I personally think they should apologise, but there is more chance of the proverbial pig to start flying than for that to ever happen.
Your concern is touching but it's up to your friend to take the matter forward. Or are you all planning for the forthcoming strike?
19 March 2013, 03:52 PM
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Ok I only read the OP, and skipped straight to the comment.
I am black, and although there are lots of ignorant twerps out there -most of the racial drama can be split between do gooders, minorities with chips on their shoulders and of course the bigots.
So are they trying to say its ok to call white troubled children that they are behaving like animals, giving ethnic minorities free reign to avoid such scrutiny.
We have way too many do gooders in modern society, and in this instance, the children will suffer in the long run because of lack of consistent, constructive discipline.
I pity the teacher. Please give him or her as much strength as possible.
Of course, if he was prejudiced which I doubt very much, then the law would take course.
I am black, and although there are lots of ignorant twerps out there -most of the racial drama can be split between do gooders, minorities with chips on their shoulders and of course the bigots.
So are they trying to say its ok to call white troubled children that they are behaving like animals, giving ethnic minorities free reign to avoid such scrutiny.
We have way too many do gooders in modern society, and in this instance, the children will suffer in the long run because of lack of consistent, constructive discipline.
I pity the teacher. Please give him or her as much strength as possible.
Of course, if he was prejudiced which I doubt very much, then the law would take course.