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Fecking stamp duty, the whole system needs an overhaul to make it like any other taxation, i.e. spend £260k on a house, pay 1% of £250k and 3% of £10k, but it will never happen as it generates way too much cash for the government. That said it could stimulate the housing market so that they'll get more stamp duty coming in anyway ![Idea](images/smilies/idea.gif)
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... one reason being the sheer number of empty second+ houses and buy-to-let owners pushing up prices ...
As for it about working hard, it's nothing of the sort, many people who own multiple properties (particularly Buy-to-Letters) I'd wager are leveraged to the hilt - see the amount of people that lost millions in the property crisis, looking for what they perceived was easy money.
Been doing it 25 years. I manage my own properties and it's hard work. Started yesterday morning with a Council inspection, then cleaned rooms, hung some blinds and curtains and arrived back at my office pm to do my day job.
But I wish I had twice as many properties as I have now. And so do my tenants because several have left and then come back and they keep asking me if I've a got a place for a mate of theirs.
And if I want to spend my post-tax earnings on a second home who are you to tell me I'm encroaching on your entitlement?
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Well, why not buy every single house that comes on the market, pricing first timers out of the market, then you can rent it back to them at double the mortgage rate, and REALLY make some money out of them!
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I'm a multi property Buy-to-Letter and I'm proud of it.
Been doing it 25 years. I manage my own properties and it's hard work. Started yesterday morning with a Council inspection, then cleaned rooms, hung some blinds and curtains and arrived back at my office pm to do my day job.
But I wish I had twice as many properties as I have now. And so do my tenants because several have left and then come back and they keep asking me if I've a got a place for a mate of theirs.
And if I want to spend my post-tax earnings on a second home who are you to tell me I'm encroaching on your entitlement?
Been doing it 25 years. I manage my own properties and it's hard work. Started yesterday morning with a Council inspection, then cleaned rooms, hung some blinds and curtains and arrived back at my office pm to do my day job.
But I wish I had twice as many properties as I have now. And so do my tenants because several have left and then come back and they keep asking me if I've a got a place for a mate of theirs.
And if I want to spend my post-tax earnings on a second home who are you to tell me I'm encroaching on your entitlement?
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Noticed your recent comments. They are rather silly.
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Don't be daft. With property the real profit is in asset value growth, rents can't buck the market. You can only charge what people are willing to pay for any type of property in any area.
Probably one third of my tenants move on as first-time buyers. They're able to do that because they pay good value rents and they're able to save a deposit. And I'm a partner in a financial service firm and we can give mortgage advice to first time buyers.
Probably one third of my tenants move on as first-time buyers. They're able to do that because they pay good value rents and they're able to save a deposit. And I'm a partner in a financial service firm and we can give mortgage advice to first time buyers.
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Besides, I'm not saying it should be banned to own multiple properties, but there should be a penalty for reducing the availability of housing stock.
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Let's be honest here, it was an utterly unimaginative budget from a woeful chancellor in a woeful two bit government with an even less effective opposition.
His projections for boorrowing, defecit reduction etc. are far worse from those he made just 3 months ago and I am sure will be continually revised sh1twards as his lack of grip of the basics of what is wrong continues to lead us towards oblivion!
We're fcuked! Well and truly fcuked!
His projections for boorrowing, defecit reduction etc. are far worse from those he made just 3 months ago and I am sure will be continually revised sh1twards as his lack of grip of the basics of what is wrong continues to lead us towards oblivion!
We're fcuked! Well and truly fcuked!
The last lot were stupid and hishonest enough to get us IN to this mess, but THIS lot seem to have zero idea how to get us out of it....
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Yep we live by the beach, I surf a lot, we have a good but ageing BMW plus the van, yep business is fairly good but woopee fricking too, who else gives a flying f***? You like to blow your own trumpet on a daily basis; do you have an ounce of self awareness? No you don't.
And Sam - telling us how well you've done and how good you are at your job.
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Edd has it bang on the nail; a similar mentality has raped the life out of much of this county. But hell, as long as a few are making good money, go f*** everyone else.
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And it isn't landlords' fault that the country's not building enough houses to keep up with household growth, and the planning system's crap and mortgage lenders charge massive spreads on the cheap money they get for the BoE, and ... and ...
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I don't doubt being a landlord is hard work, I've not said anything to the contrary.
House prices should be lower, but the inflated demand caused in part by investment speculators foreign and local, is helping to keep it high and out of reach of many. Soon enough we'll be a country of landlords and renters. I fear for the younger generation, who will never even with a good salary be able to afford their own place. It's not a right to own a property, but it's getting ridiculous. Taxation would change this.
House prices should be lower, but the inflated demand caused in part by investment speculators foreign and local, is helping to keep it high and out of reach of many. Soon enough we'll be a country of landlords and renters. I fear for the younger generation, who will never even with a good salary be able to afford their own place. It's not a right to own a property, but it's getting ridiculous. Taxation would change this.
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Owning your own property is always going to be a vote winner, if you suggested otherwise you probably wouldn't get anywhere,
But it's kind of been a disaster waiting to happen as far as I can see
But it's kind of been a disaster waiting to happen as far as I can see
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Mostly, it was American banks making bad property loans to people who couldn't afford to or didn't intend to repay them but who wanted to chase the property ownership dream.
And mass property ownership is a relatively recent aspiration in the UK. It is certainly not a long standing tradition and only picked up in parts of Britain the 70s and 80s. But it's always sold as if it's what we've always done.
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But the new help-to-buy scheme only applies to new-build property which is only 0.5% of housing stock.
I don't agree with artificially propping up the price of property. Supporting construction jobs is probably a good thing though.
I don't agree with artificially propping up the price of property. Supporting construction jobs is probably a good thing though.
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I'm on my iPhone; searching, putting links, etc are all a complete pain. I will look later when on a proper computer.
It's seems the mobile version of every website actually means "bu99er all functionality!"
It's seems the mobile version of every website actually means "bu99er all functionality!"
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Sweet! Just about to buy a second home - yes lads that's right, I'm well off!
The government are going to help pay for it. Up the Tories!!!!
Sweet! Just about to buy a second home - yes lads that's right, I'm well off!
The government are going to help pay for it. Up the Tories!!!!
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