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Old 20 March 2013, 08:02 PM
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theres usually a bit somewhere that says they don't apply if it's obvious the vehicle has been modified for some reason i.e rallying
Old 20 March 2013, 08:13 PM
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A vehicle can also fail if the wing mirrors cannot be adjusted, either by the electric switch or little lever fitted to them, vosa have got really ****, i got the special notice last week and am still trying to get my head round it all.
Old 20 March 2013, 08:27 PM
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An amended list of people to be nice to;
Barbers/hairdressers
Barmen/women
Dentists
Anyone who cooks or serves your food
Anyone who sells you sex or drugs
Garage owners (Naturally)
And of course, MOT testers, who will, as always, pass anything with the right kind of encouragement.
Old 20 March 2013, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammer man
Interior

Drivers seat adjustment must move forward and back and lock into place.

Well thats me "stuffed" then. Cant see why this has to be if its bolted to the floor pan, it aint going anywhere
What if someone steals your car and they have shorter legs than you?
This could be a real health and safety issue.
Old 20 March 2013, 09:26 PM
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Re the steering wheel?
If you have an aftermarket wheel fitted with no airbag, does that then fail if a airbag was originally fitted?
Old 20 March 2013, 10:23 PM
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Some interesting ones here, so how do you test a cars ESC ?

Also for example my 4x4 has a tow bar fitted but the electrics don't works (7 point connector thing is all manky and wiring looks bad on it) and as I don't tow anything the 7 point connector is tucked away out of sight in the bumper. Remove the tow bar when it goes in for its MOT or a case of if the electrics are not there then cant be tested ?

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Old 20 March 2013, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
Me too

Since it clashes directly with the MSA rule book, how are they going to apply this to the thousands of what now appear to be formerly road legal competition cars in this country
Apparently there's a check box in the MOT that allows some flex for cars clearly built for competition or track work
Old 20 March 2013, 10:59 PM
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I think it means if you have a fore/aft adjustment mechanism it must be working.

If you don't have a fore/aft mechanism then it does not apply.It does not say you must have one fitted.


I have had discussions about MOT meanings in the past & there are some complete morons working in garages.I hope these rules come with explanatory
notes.I would ask to see the actual rule in writing to see if they are interpreting them correctly.
Old 20 March 2013, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I'll have to dig out the print out and scan it in. But I believe its a case of "where fitted"

90% of cars have a levelling system anway, whether they mean "automated" one or not begs to be questioned.
My understanding from in depth research over last year is that cars DO NOT have to have the systems, but IF FITTED they must work.

Is there anything about HID bulbs in lamps designed for halogen? There was going to be.
Old 21 March 2013, 12:13 AM
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does any one know if its a mot fail , if the indicator tick-tock noise/chime doesn't work?

indicators work fine , just no noise ,

thanks
Old 21 March 2013, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Just thought it maybe worth reminding you all

Just failed a bloke for a airbag light on. He was rather pissed off....even moreso when he was told if teh car was tested yesterday it would have passed!!

Most of it is bullcrap, as the airbag light can be removed/disabled and the car will then pass! How safe is that?...someone can then drive a car NOT knowing the airbags are defective, beggers belief

But these silly things like airbag lights and trailer sockets and stuff may cause people to come a cropper:

Excuse the cut and paste:
I booked my car in for MOT on Tuesday 19th, not knowing the new regs were coming and was told it would have the failed MOT because my airbag light is on!
Old 21 March 2013, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobyman2012
does any one know if its a mot fail , if the indicator tick-tock noise/chime doesn't work?

indicators work fine , just no noise ,

thanks
I believe it is a fail. If it's not working you probably just need to replace the relay
Old 21 March 2013, 07:43 AM
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My car recently passed but it has no EGR, EGR cooler and the DPF is just a straight pipe. It passed emissions but would it now fail as the DPF is no longer present?
Old 21 March 2013, 08:17 AM
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Mine passed with my drivers seat being "stuck" on Tuesday

Phew
Old 21 March 2013, 09:12 AM
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I took the Mrs's BMW for an MOT to my ususal MOT guy who showed me these new rules.. He said they are a load of cr4p really, for instance the Steering lock bit states the steering lock has to work OR you have to have something else in place of it, which you could in theory just chuck one of those steering lock arm things in the back and say thats it.
I cant see that it makes too much difference really, if you know an MOT'er who gets your car through on emissions, then they are not going to start counting how many cats you have.
As for the Airbag light, there are ways around that, although if its on and its not because youve got an after market steering wheel etc, then wouldnt it be a good idea to get looked at anyway?
Old 21 March 2013, 09:45 AM
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i like the bit about all doors opening from the inside and outside, so does that mean that you have to disable all the child locks before going for an MOT, getting a bit fussy
Old 21 March 2013, 10:01 AM
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Oh yeah never thought about that bit!, when I bought my scoob the child locks were on and the kids couldnt get out, I thought the door handles wre broke lol
Old 21 March 2013, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave1980
i like the bit about all doors opening from the inside and outside, so does that mean that you have to disable all the child locks before going for an MOT, getting a bit fussy
That's actually quite a sensible requirement. In the event of an accident it is prudent to be able to open the doors from inside and outside.
Old 21 March 2013, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobyman2012
does any one know if its a mot fail , if the indicator tick-tock noise/chime doesn't work?

indicators work fine , just no noise ,

thanks
As Long as the indicators are working it should not make much difference. some cars do not make noise. The tick-tock is normally the relay but if its in the engine bay or is in a place where is can not be heard then dont worry.
Old 21 March 2013, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
That's actually quite a sensible requirement. In the event of an accident it is prudent to be able to open the doors from inside and outside.
yes true, although in an accident the child locks disable and the door can be opened from inside or outside. if the child locks are on and the door opens from outside then surely the door works. Can just see that one catching a lot of people out.
Old 21 March 2013, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave1980
i like the bit about all doors opening from the inside and outside, so does that mean that you have to disable all the child locks before going for an MOT, getting a bit fussy
I think it's aimed more at this Saxo and Corsa drivers who've fibre glassed over the handles and got solenoids that work from their alram fob because it makes them look 'cool'

How do these people get out after they've wrapped their car around another tree as their 1.2l with and electronic turbo and dump valve has just left the Veyron for dust
Old 21 March 2013, 11:26 AM
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What has the steering lock got to do with safety? Surely it is a security issue and as such has no place in the MOT checks?
Old 21 March 2013, 12:37 PM
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the MOT on my Caterham Kit car will be fun
Old 21 March 2013, 01:06 PM
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Hmmm. My classic STi is on its V5 as a UK car - its only ever had 1 cat, but will show as having 2. Could be interesting...
Old 21 March 2013, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
the MOT on my Caterham Kit car will be fun
I'll bet driving it around Cadwell Park is as well.
Old 21 March 2013, 01:14 PM
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So every Saab going will fail the MOT, none of them have steering locks lol,

Mat
Old 21 March 2013, 01:43 PM
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Can these new regulations possibly be a government conspiracy to reduce the number of vehicles on the road?
Old 21 March 2013, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scunnered
Can these new regulations possibly be a government conspiracy to reduce the number of old or modified vehicles on the road?
EFA, and yes
Old 21 March 2013, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by [-(o)-]
Hmmm. My classic STi is on its V5 as a UK car - its only ever had 1 cat, but will show as having 2. Could be interesting...
classics only ever have a single cat in the down-pipe regardless of their origin or trim level
Old 21 March 2013, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JonMc
I think it's aimed more at this Saxo and Corsa drivers who've fibre glassed over the handles and got solenoids that work from their alram fob because it makes them look 'cool'

How do these people get out after they've wrapped their car around another tree as their 1.2l with and electronic turbo and dump valve has just left the Veyron for dust
let em burn


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