Sorry... another NIP question
#31
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Extremely bad advice from Les which, if followed, will land you a fine of >£500, 6 points and an MS90 on your licence which will cause insurance problems for 5 years..
The registered owner is a leasing company. How would they know who was driving the car at the time? The answer is that the Poolice or camera partnership send a NIP to the leasing company who name the company that lease the car. The company then name the person most likely to have been driving the car at the time and they get their own NIP. This seems to be where you are at the moment.
The registered owner is a leasing company. How would they know who was driving the car at the time? The answer is that the Poolice or camera partnership send a NIP to the leasing company who name the company that lease the car. The company then name the person most likely to have been driving the car at the time and they get their own NIP. This seems to be where you are at the moment.
in addition because of the time the NIP took to be served on them (going via leasing company then the IBM internal process) it was already 3 months in the past
and considering how ruthlessly the North Wales constabulary pursue speeding tickets is was very clever how they got away with it - but they did.
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hodgy - I agree that it is possiblle to defend this on a "can't establish who was driving" basis but the bar is set rather high. CEL's situation seems a bit more simple in that he is aware of who the driver was at the time (and it wasn't him). Not naming anyone gets him the £500, 6 points and MS90 prize. Naming the other driver puts him in the clear. Simples !
#33
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Actually, in the end it was not defended on that basis
After requesting photos, and then requesting better ones as the first were not clear
They both came to the conclusion it was probably the elder of the two – the younger brother actually was the registered driver so he was the one served with the NIP and was pushing Jonathan to accept the points
But by this time it was getting very close to the 6 month limit – and when the police finally sent Jonathan, the elder brother, who had eventually conceded it "might have been him" the forms they made the mistake of giving him 14 days to comply and return them – which pushed it over 6 months, and when Jonathan helpfully pointed this out to them (after waiting till the 13 day to send the forms back) they dropped it
After requesting photos, and then requesting better ones as the first were not clear
They both came to the conclusion it was probably the elder of the two – the younger brother actually was the registered driver so he was the one served with the NIP and was pushing Jonathan to accept the points
But by this time it was getting very close to the 6 month limit – and when the police finally sent Jonathan, the elder brother, who had eventually conceded it "might have been him" the forms they made the mistake of giving him 14 days to comply and return them – which pushed it over 6 months, and when Jonathan helpfully pointed this out to them (after waiting till the 13 day to send the forms back) they dropped it
Last edited by hodgy0_2; 07 April 2013 at 07:14 PM.
#34
I assumed that the company hiring the car would have known who was likely to be driving it.
I think I would go and see the coppers personally and explain it all face to face.
Les
I think I would go and see the coppers personally and explain it all face to face.
Les
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