hodgy0_2

the above actually happend to my two younger brothers, both working for the same company (IBM), using one of their company cars (both had company cars) for a camping trip in North Wales, so both fully insured to drive. It was very late driving home and they genuinly could not remember who was driving - as they would regularly swap drivers and often went on long trips together.

in addition because of the time the NIP took to be served on them (going via leasing company then the IBM internal process) it was already 3 months in the past

and considering how ruthlessly the North Wales constabulary pursue speeding tickets is was very clever how they got away with it - but they did.

douglasb

hodgy - I agree that it is possiblle to defend this on a "can't establish who was driving" basis but the bar is set rather high. CEL's situation seems a bit more simple in that he is aware of who the driver was at the time (and it wasn't him). Not naming anyone gets him the £500, 6 points and MS90 prize. Naming the other driver puts him in the clear. Simples !

hodgy0_2

Actually, in the end it was not defended on that basis

After requesting photos, and then requesting better ones as the first were not clear

They both came to the conclusion it was probably the elder of the two – the younger brother actually was the registered driver so he was the one served with the NIP and was pushing Jonathan to accept the points

But by this time it was getting very close to the 6 month limit – and when the police finally sent Jonathan, the elder brother, who had eventually conceded it "might have been him" the forms they made the mistake of giving him 14 days to comply and return them – which pushed it over 6 months, and when Jonathan helpfully pointed this out to them (after waiting till the 13 day to send the forms back) they dropped it

Leslie

I assumed that the company hiring the car would have known who was likely to be driving it.

I think I would go and see the coppers personally and explain it all face to face.

Les