RIP - Baroness Thatcher
11 April 2013, 04:42 PM
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As if the local councils wouldn't have flogged them when their funds ran short, the only difference is she didn't sell them to developers like councils would have done.
The housing issue is such a misnomer, whether owned by the state or the individual the total number of homes available for the total number of families would not have changed.
The housing issue is such a misnomer, whether owned by the state or the individual the total number of homes available for the total number of families would not have changed.
12 April 2013, 06:21 AM
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People still talking bout this 
I can't remember when she was in power but I think she was great!
My old man was a miner and directly affected, he thinks she was ok too, respects her even.
You can't please everyone all the time, how was someone soo bad voted back in for ten consecutive years? No really I know nothing about politics I'm genuinely asking lol.
Mick
I can't remember when she was in power but I think she was great!
My old man was a miner and directly affected, he thinks she was ok too, respects her even.
You can't please everyone all the time, how was someone soo bad voted back in for ten consecutive years? No really I know nothing about politics I'm genuinely asking lol.
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12 April 2013, 08:46 AM
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Thatcher just presided over the inevtiable. Manufacturing had already started to shift, certain coal mines were becooming uneconomical.
Scargill killed the miners, not Thatcher. If they had agreedto close the eneconomic mines originally, I doubt the whole industry would have been dismantled (then anyway, they only have a certain shelf life!)
Scargill had been defeated in two prior ballots for a strike, so called one without a ballot, so he didn't have popular support. And, the idiot called it in the spring. You'd think he would have the sense to do it the autumn!
His stubborness did as much damage as Thatcher's.
And, us northerners do like to complain
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Scargill killed the miners, not Thatcher. If they had agreedto close the eneconomic mines originally, I doubt the whole industry would have been dismantled (then anyway, they only have a certain shelf life!)
Scargill had been defeated in two prior ballots for a strike, so called one without a ballot, so he didn't have popular support. And, the idiot called it in the spring. You'd think he would have the sense to do it the autumn!
His stubborness did as much damage as Thatcher's.
And, us northerners do like to complain
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12 April 2013, 06:01 PM
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Thatcher just presided over the inevtiable. Manufacturing had already started to shift, certain coal mines were becooming uneconomical.
Scargill killed the miners, not Thatcher. If they had agreedto close the eneconomic mines originally, I doubt the whole industry would have been dismantled (then anyway, they only have a certain shelf life!)
Scargill had been defeated in two prior ballots for a strike, so called one without a ballot, so he didn't have popular support. And, the idiot called it in the spring. You'd think he would have the sense to do it the autumn!
His stubborness did as much damage as Thatcher's.
And, us northerners do like to complain
Geezer
Scargill killed the miners, not Thatcher. If they had agreedto close the eneconomic mines originally, I doubt the whole industry would have been dismantled (then anyway, they only have a certain shelf life!)
Scargill had been defeated in two prior ballots for a strike, so called one without a ballot, so he didn't have popular support. And, the idiot called it in the spring. You'd think he would have the sense to do it the autumn!
His stubborness did as much damage as Thatcher's.
And, us northerners do like to complain
Geezer
12 April 2013, 06:51 PM
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My dad was similar. He was made redundant from his steel works and still thinks she was right to do what she did. Just goes to show that some people affected can see reason when it's staring them in the face. Others just get bitter about anyone who affects their lifestyle, regardless of the factors behind it.
I was one of those people, worked in utilities since the early 80's and remember at the interview the engineer said after confirming I had got the job, "listen lad, forget about working anywhere else, unless you do something stupid, you have a job here for life, 27 days paid holiday, superannuation scheme, opportunities to progress etc., etc."
Within 15 years, after privatisation I was out of a job and after looking at the positives, chose a slightly different career path and life went on.
Voted for Maggie in 79 and continued to vote Conservative right up to the last election.
To the witch is dead crowd, up yours
12 April 2013, 08:26 PM
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I was one of those people, worked in utilities since the early 80's and remember at the interview the engineer said after confirming I had got the job, "listen lad, forget about working anywhere else, unless you do something stupid, you have a job here for life, 27 days paid holiday, superannuation scheme, opportunities to progress etc., etc."
Within 15 years, after privatisation I was out of a job and after looking at the positives, chose a slightly different career path and life went on.
Voted for Maggie in 79 and continued to vote Conservative right up to the last election.
To the witch is dead crowd, up yours
Within 15 years, after privatisation I was out of a job and after looking at the positives, chose a slightly different career path and life went on.
Voted for Maggie in 79 and continued to vote Conservative right up to the last election.
To the witch is dead crowd, up yours
I also think you should read up/look at the stats. There was no remorseless 'self is good state is bad'.... Government spending broadly rose under Thatcher. All she did was shift the balance n the right direction.
12 April 2013, 08:50 PM
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I was one of those people, worked in utilities since the early 80's and remember at the interview the engineer said after confirming I had got the job, "listen lad, forget about working anywhere else, unless you do something stupid, you have a job here for life, 27 days paid holiday, superannuation scheme, opportunities to progress etc., etc."
Within 15 years, after privatisation I was out of a job and after looking at the positives, chose a slightly different career path and life went on.
Voted for Maggie in 79 and continued to vote Conservative right up to the last election.
To the witch is dead crowd, up yours
Within 15 years, after privatisation I was out of a job and after looking at the positives, chose a slightly different career path and life went on.
Voted for Maggie in 79 and continued to vote Conservative right up to the last election.
To the witch is dead crowd, up yours
12 April 2013, 09:03 PM
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So long as every person exercising it knows the full ramifications of what they are doing....Like that Copper who had to resign, and that teenage crime 'Zsar'.
As I said earlier if I ever saw a child of mine doing what I've seen some kids doing...their belongings would be in bin liners on the doorstep. Yes, they can say what they like...but not whilst living under my roof!
12 April 2013, 09:43 PM
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12 April 2013, 10:24 PM
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At least she is at least funding a failing music industry.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-witch-is-dead
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-witch-is-dead
12 April 2013, 10:36 PM
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At least she is at least funding a failing music industry.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-witch-is-dead
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-witch-is-dead
12 April 2013, 10:59 PM
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At least she is at least funding a failing music industry.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-witch-is-dead
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-witch-is-dead
13 April 2013, 12:43 PM
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And you are??? 
Did you not see the little after my post. It's all a bit of fun sonny boy. Lighten up a little.
And no I may not be the brightest but at least I have made something of myself and have everything I could wish for. Have you?
Did you not see the little
after my post. It's all a bit of fun sonny boy. Lighten up a little.And no I may not be the brightest but at least I have made something of myself and have everything I could wish for. Have you?
13 April 2013, 12:52 PM
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Glenda was a fan too. Lol
Glenda Jackson launches tirade against Thatcher in tribute debate - YouTube
Glenda Jackson launches tirade against Thatcher in tribute debate - YouTube
13 April 2013, 05:54 PM
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All I'd say to those sad folk celebrating her death is; she won the argument, she won 3 elections, she was right and no one has undone what she did....get over it.
I also think you should read up/look at the stats. There was no remorseless 'self is good state is bad'.... Government spending broadly rose under Thatcher. All she did was shift the balance n the right direction.
I also think you should read up/look at the stats. There was no remorseless 'self is good state is bad'.... Government spending broadly rose under Thatcher. All she did was shift the balance n the right direction.
Les
14 April 2013, 08:17 AM
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The last strong leader this country has had and the strongest since Churchill. Had more ***** than every man currently working in politics.
Like her or loathe her nobody can argue with that.
In light of the pathtetic politicians we have to endure nowadays on any party, her death saddens me, as there is no one who even remotely has any form of leadership quality.
RIP.
Like her or loathe her nobody can argue with that.
In light of the pathtetic politicians we have to endure nowadays on any party, her death saddens me, as there is no one who even remotely has any form of leadership quality.
RIP.
14 April 2013, 08:37 AM
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I was sorry to hear that she had died.
I had great admiration for her,she was such a strong leader unlike our present wishy washy political examples who are frightened to make a decision in case they offend other world leaders. She stood up for our country and did what she felt was right regardless of what others thought. She dragged this country up by its boot laces and saved it from collapse. Hers was the one voice which stood up against the Eu, all the others are frightened to say anything in support of their own countries. No one dared to go against the word "No" when she said it. Oh how we need such a leader now!
Ali B is so right when he says that she was the greatest leader we have had since Winston Churchill. He was another one who would do anything to support our country. Will we ever see another leader up to their standards?
We suffered a great loss when she left power and also now that she has died. I am very glad that she will have a state funeral which is befitting for someone who did so much for this country.
Les
I had great admiration for her,she was such a strong leader unlike our present wishy washy political examples who are frightened to make a decision in case they offend other world leaders. She stood up for our country and did what she felt was right regardless of what others thought. She dragged this country up by its boot laces and saved it from collapse. Hers was the one voice which stood up against the Eu, all the others are frightened to say anything in support of their own countries. No one dared to go against the word "No" when she said it. Oh how we need such a leader now!
Ali B is so right when he says that she was the greatest leader we have had since Winston Churchill. He was another one who would do anything to support our country. Will we ever see another leader up to their standards?
We suffered a great loss when she left power and also now that she has died. I am very glad that she will have a state funeral which is befitting for someone who did so much for this country.
Les
Was only young when maggie were in power and the Falklands etc was happening,but over the years have read quite a few things on maggie,good and bad.
You can't deny the woman was a real leader and didn't take any crap.
Huge respect for someone like her,who will stick their head above the parapet.Our modern day politicians are just a bunch of sissy boys with no ***** or guts.
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14 April 2013, 09:09 AM
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The footage on the news of strikes and riots etc was a good reminder of how the police also used to be able to deal with troublemakers charging in with batons and giving them a good whack. Perhaps if they could do that today the scum that go out protesting to cause trouble would think twice about doing it. Now if the police hit anyone participating in a riot they get sacked and possibly sued by the person they hit which shows what an effing joke this country has become since Thatcher left power.
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14 April 2013, 01:41 PM
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What do you think? I'm not even going to answer that. ;-)