RIP - Baroness Thatcher
09 April 2013, 05:59 PM
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Privatisation reaped massive benefits too and was snapped up by everyone, not just by her "comrades in arms". The fist privatised state owned interest, British Telecoms was massively oversubscribed and millions wanted a piece of the pie. After BT was privatised, service was improved, prices came down and waiting lists for telephones (remember that one!) vanished, public phone boxes worked and faults were fixed. Some say that Thatcher made people "greedy" (that wasn't what she set out to do! but encourage people to take responsibility for themselves rather than rely on the state.), well I'd argue people were "greedy" long before Thatcher came into office as huge rush for BT shares and the prospect of increased wealth showed. And this was also the case for other privatised services such as TSB and British Gas. Thatcher moved nearly 900,000 people from the public sector to the private sector by the nineties and that is a massive saving on the public purse for the next generation, especially when you consider the current massive public sector pension black hole we will be facing.
Yes, Thatcher encouraged home ownership, but let's stop and examine this; do you own a home, have you financed anything with a mortgage and do you or have you ever used credit? Are you saying you would be better off without these facilities and not owning your own home? If not, how can you criticise what you have benefitted from?
Yes, Thatcher encouraged home ownership, but let's stop and examine this; do you own a home, have you financed anything with a mortgage and do you or have you ever used credit? Are you saying you would be better off without these facilities and not owning your own home? If not, how can you criticise what you have benefitted from?
Well funnily enough 'Sid' didn't have any cash to spare at the time ( iv got some now,shares that is ).
It made a packet for the city too, all that buying and quick sell
09 April 2013, 06:30 PM
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The Loony Left had infiltrated British politics and the Labour Party/Trade Unions, and the communists (Soviet Union) had infiltrated the Loony Left.
Thatcher was hell bent on smashing the Unions and Socialism for that reason and did a pretty good job because it eventually led to the collapse of the Communist Block and fall of the iron curtain when she let Ronnie delve into the handbag.
How I laughed when watching a programme about Thatch last night when they featured that clown Billy Bragg trying to strangle a guitar and all those lesbos at Greenham Common.
When I remember those days and see the likes of Blair, Brown, Milliband and ***** today it made me realise why I voted for Thatch in 79 and every election thereafter.
Trouble is that Labour lot will be in again next election
09 April 2013, 06:36 PM
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and I'm a Northerner too. 
As the son of a miner I don't see what miners had to complain about, my dad got £20k redundancy and just over a grand a month pension, fecked off back to Jamaica built an apartment and lived like a king.
I bought their council house for £50k and sold it 9yrs later for £200k as a result of which I have a detached house with double garage in UK and a stone farm house in Croatia with spectacular views, and a building plot in Fort Myers in Florida that my mum and dad bought with the redundancy.
Fantastic woman, I owe everything I have to her policies.
RIP.
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09 April 2013, 06:47 PM
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Totally agree.
As the son of a miner I don't see what miners had to complain about, my dad got £20k redundancy and just over a grand a month pension, fecked off back to Jamaica built an apartment and lived like a king.
I bought their council house for £50k and sold it 9yrs later for £200k as a result of which I have a detached house with double garage in UK and a stone farm house in Croatia with spectacular views, and a building plot in Fort Myers in Florida that my mum and dad bought with the redundancy.
Fantastic woman, I owe everything I have to her policies.
RIP.
As the son of a miner I don't see what miners had to complain about, my dad got £20k redundancy and just over a grand a month pension, fecked off back to Jamaica built an apartment and lived like a king.
I bought their council house for £50k and sold it 9yrs later for £200k as a result of which I have a detached house with double garage in UK and a stone farm house in Croatia with spectacular views, and a building plot in Fort Myers in Florida that my mum and dad bought with the redundancy.
Fantastic woman, I owe everything I have to her policies.
RIP.
09 April 2013, 07:43 PM
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I always saw Thatcher's "attack" on the working class as a maternal push to make those dependent on the state more self-sufficient. Coincidentally something that many people are calling for today in realtion to our current welfare state.
09 April 2013, 07:55 PM
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I just wish the present lot in power had ***** as big as she had. Brilliant leader, if you were prepared to work hard you got the rewards. To see all the present day lefties, many of whom were probably not born when she was in power, dancing in the streets & celebrating the fact that she has died is a disgrace. Take their benefits of the lot of them!
09 April 2013, 08:07 PM
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If I saw a child of mine rejoicing like that in someone's death...I'd disown them. I was brought up better than that; This bunch celebrating in the streets aren't any better than the Islamist extremists living in the UK having parties and burning British flags at a Soldier's funeral march.
09 April 2013, 08:24 PM
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Pontificating
I just wonder if with all the Thatcher years nostalgia going around there will be someone within the Torys that will make a move on Cameron and challenge the leadership. Maybe Bill Hague fancies another go at it, still too wet imo
Unlikely any politician nowadays would have her conviction and ***** so it would be pointless exercise.
Unlikely any politician nowadays would have her conviction and ***** so it would be pointless exercise.
09 April 2013, 08:28 PM
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I just wonder if with all the Thatcher years nostalgia going around there will be someone within the Torys that will make a move on Cameron and challenge the leadership. Maybe Bill Hague fancies another go at it, still too wet imo
Unlikely any politician nowadays would have her conviction and ***** so it would be pointless exercise.
Unlikely any politician nowadays would have her conviction and ***** so it would be pointless exercise.
Could have been the best PM we never had.
09 April 2013, 08:30 PM
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Well I went through it, and I believe there's an abundance of day dreamers in the room!
Perhaps it may have encourage a good work ethic, I don't see how today is any different,
What she most definitely did promote was every sod for himself, no matter what
Perhaps it may have encourage a good work ethic, I don't see how today is any different,
What she most definitely did promote was every sod for himself, no matter what
09 April 2013, 08:51 PM
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09 April 2013, 09:17 PM
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They needed sorting out I'm not disputing that much, it's the second half of her reign I didn't like for the most part
And that's the position she really wanted
And that's the position she really wanted
09 April 2013, 09:21 PM
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Ask yourself one question, how many of them f-ckwits out protesting against her last night are going to inherit a house worth £100k plus because their parents were allowed to buy their council house. Boiling **** doesn't even get close.
09 April 2013, 09:33 PM
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It's pathetic really. "Anarchists" are coming out of the woodwork now to say what they thought of Maggie. They were terrified of her before, in power or otherwise.
It's like somebody big barging you in the pub and you whispering threats behind your hand in case he hears you. They only feel safe because she's dead. It's too late to blow raspberries now chaps, she kicked your ar$e then lived to a ripe old age.
Hysterical..
It's like somebody big barging you in the pub and you whispering threats behind your hand in case he hears you. They only feel safe because she's dead. It's too late to blow raspberries now chaps, she kicked your ar$e then lived to a ripe old age.
Hysterical..
09 April 2013, 09:36 PM
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And Arthur Scargill fighting the NUM to stay in their flat (Maybe he should have bought a council house when Maggie gave him the chance).
At last that ***** has kept quiet
At last that ***** has kept quiet
09 April 2013, 09:36 PM
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It's pathetic really. "Anarchists" are coming out of the woodwork now to say what they thought of Maggie. They were terrified of her before, in power or otherwise.
It's like somebody big barging you in the pub and you whispering threats behind your hand in case he hears you. They only feel safe because she's dead. It's too late to blow raspberries now chaps, she kicked your ar$e then lived to a ripe old age.
Hysterical..
It's like somebody big barging you in the pub and you whispering threats behind your hand in case he hears you. They only feel safe because she's dead. It's too late to blow raspberries now chaps, she kicked your ar$e then lived to a ripe old age.
Hysterical..
09 April 2013, 11:37 PM
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OK let's pull my 'blinkered view of reality' apart shall we.
What part of the situation of the 70s and 80s that I mentioned was blinkered? Are you trying to suggest that Socialist Britain of the 70s was some kind of model for how to run an economy?
It's comical that you appear to be trying to portray me as some kind of Thatcherite, I was never huge fan. I do hugely respect some the tough decisions she took.
I never voted for Thatcher, I was young and fairly radical in those days, but I grew up.
What part of the situation of the 70s and 80s that I mentioned was blinkered? Are you trying to suggest that Socialist Britain of the 70s was some kind of model for how to run an economy?
It's comical that you appear to be trying to portray me as some kind of Thatcherite, I was never huge fan. I do hugely respect some the tough decisions she took.
I never voted for Thatcher, I was young and fairly radical in those days, but I grew up.
The amount of contradictory garbage he spews out, he should be wearing a skip as a necklace.
10 April 2013, 07:47 AM
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=ALi-B;11053631]That's pretty epic. Mind, that Rakija stuff does mess with your head
As far as i'm concerned she taught a generation that you get out what you put in, the YTS system worked for me as well, because I was headed down the pit but got on an engineering YTS learned to weld did day release at college and went on to earn a good living as an engineer, I also as a yoof worked 3 jobs, day job fitting stereo's and car alarms 2/3 evenings in a pub and drove a taxi at the weekends, and I had "Loads a Money."
80's were amongst the best years of my life, great time to be around if you weren't work shy, and despite what people say about unemployment, I was never without work, but that's because I got off my ar$e and went out looking for it, wandering around industrial estates knocking on doors, which is a lesson many of the feckless work shy of today could learn from.
As for those pretend Anarchists dancing in the streets, I'v seen a few of that sort in my time, of which the vast majority are middle class/ well to do anti- scripters out looking for some street cred, but as soon as life gets a little difficult they run to mummy and daddy for some more nasty capitalist cash, and when mummy and daddy pass away they stand to inherit a tidy sum.
10 April 2013, 08:18 AM
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Yet many other of your posts seem to show completely different leanings. As I said you don't have two cohesive thoughts to rub together.
Anyway I can't be f**ked arguing with people like you today as I have too much work on. Yes a lefty who never grew up with his own successful business? Whatever next eh Martin my little oh so grown up friend
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10 April 2013, 08:26 AM
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I bought their council house for £50k and sold it 9yrs later for £200k as a result of which I have a detached house with double garage in UK and a stone farm house in Croatia with spectacular views, and a building plot in Fort Myers in Florida that my mum and dad bought with the redundancy.
Fantastic woman, I owe everything I have to her policies.
RIP.
Fantastic woman, I owe everything I have to her policies.
RIP.
She sold you a house at way less than it was worth (up to 70% discount in some areas) and you did well from it so think the sun shines out of her ****. I'm alright Jack... her mantra for a new Britain!
Yet what you and so many others don't realise is that society as a whole didn't do well out of it. She took something worth x and sold it for y where y was way less than x and did it over and over again. Now we have privatised utility companies holding us to ransom, a critical lack of social housing and houses no one can afford.
Anyway she is dead and gone and good riddance. Personally I hope her and all her supporters rot in hell!
10 April 2013, 09:03 AM
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I would agree with the above as well. Some liked her because they did well out of her others hate her because they got fcuked by her. It all depends which side of the fence you came from.
10 April 2013, 09:08 AM
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Not entirely as I did OK in 80s as I have all my life luckily, but I don't think society as a whole did well out her and her government... quite the opposite in fact!
10 April 2013, 09:12 AM
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As for house prices, they shot up the most under who's tenure? And how many council houses or affordable housing was built whilst labour were in power.