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Old 20 May 2002, 03:28 PM
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This guy isn't big but anyone is capable of the unthinkable

Was thinking, has anyone got any good ideas on how I could trap him so that I become his "best mate" by helping him out. That way I know I wouldn’t get any grief from him.

How much hot chilly powder??? would you say is reasonable to give a dog without going OTT? Anyone got recommendations of what food masks chilly
Old 20 May 2002, 03:28 PM
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I have a similar problem (of sorts).

I've prepared a letter with the help of my Policeman, step-father:

"Dear Mr.??????

Abusive language directed towards myself or my fiancée in a public place falls under the following: “Abusive/disorderly conduct in a public place is an offence under section 5 of the Public Order Act”, and as such is a criminal offence. Threats of violence and/or physical intimidation fall under the following: “Threats of a violent nature or threats that are abusive or intimidatory are an offence under section 4 of the Public Order Act”, which is a far more serious criminal offence.

Be in no doubt that should you at anytime in the future, verbally abuse or threaten us again, we will be contacting the police with a view to having you prosecuted under those terms.

I understand that your frustration over our disagreement concerning an area of shared driveway, but I do not see this as an excuse to become abusive or to make threats. I must remind you that even in the remote circumstance that you have the right to park on that area of land, you must move your vehicle to allow free access to my property at any time or be guilty of the civil offence of Willful Obstruction. If at any time you park on land designated as my property, you will be guilty of Civil Trespass. In both instances I will take legal action.

In due course, I shall be raising the matter of parking rights on the shared driveway with my solicitor. From memory, these are clearly defined, and I hope you will agree to abide by them. If not then I shall be forced to seek further legal action.

Yours, blah-blah..."

The first paragraph might help you a bit. Basically, if he swears at you in public (outside your front door), then you can have him.

Old 20 May 2002, 03:29 PM
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Diablo is right - don't get into an escallating battle unless you know you can win - that really does mean putting him in fear of his life - which if he's a true nutter may not have any effect anyway.
Old 20 May 2002, 03:32 PM
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Typical, spotted a grammatical error...!

Not that ****-face would notice
Old 20 May 2002, 03:34 PM
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How about just showing up with a beer to talk cars?
Nod and say hello when you see him in his drive.
Smile and wave if you see him drive past.
Ask how his dogs are doing.

All little things, but enough to show that there is no animosity.
Old 20 May 2002, 07:47 PM
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By reading what you typed it doesn't sound anything bad. He just sounds like a complete ned. Ok he called you a homo, but maybe he was just being that way as he saw you looking at his car. If i came out of my house to find my car being looked at i'd be concerned. Think about how you would feel.

It's obvious from what you mentioned about him saying his car could have yours he is jelous and was perhaps just trying to make you think that he is better than he really is. Obviously that didn't work.

The word homo, depending on his sense of humour can be viewed as not that harmful as what could have been said.

On a quick note,

There is no need to wheel spin and show off but the boystrous youths of today don't realise what revving the engine/wheel spinning looks like from another persons point of view. They think its smart. They also think are proving/showing something off when in most cases the other person watching just thinks "what a div".

I've seen numerous boy racers doing it as i've been waiting to go into a club. i've also seen many cars do it to make theirs sound louder compared to mine.

What an above post did say though (the post from Mice) is if you do happen to see him, then just be nice to him. If you ever have to talk to him properly then just do it. Ask what he has done to his car. You said he has a dump valve, so obviously he had a turbo'd engine. Ask him about his Nitrous setup, how much quicker it made his car, what kind of a system he is using, did he have to make any engine alterations to use it. Play dum and make him think he is telling you things and just seem interested. You'll build up a rapore. When he drives past give him a nod or wave . Show a genuine interest. Everyone starts somewhere.

Edited - Just a note to say a Turbo'd Nova with a Nitrous setup may give a normal scoob a run for its money. Remember Novas are really light.

In backup, if you want to complain then you have a few options. The citizens advice place was a good call. You could also just phone your local police station. (not 999) and just inform them that you have a young bloke in your street driving wrecklessly on the odd occasion and to just keep an eye out. Don't ask them to go round. just tell them if they could keep an eye out and so if anything happens they have a record of it.

A phonecall to your housing estate agents to tell them about this certain person being disrupting with dangerous driving and tell them to give him a warning about it. Especially as it could become a problem in the future with children being in the street.

Not really needed but you do have options.

Your best option and advice i can give you is just ignore him. he will grow out of the revving his engine all the time when he sees you don't care, and just act as if he doesn't exist and get on with your life. He will soon just fade away.

Hos.

Edited due to my real lack of putting a normal sentence together today and about the engine comment.

[Edited by Hos - 5/20/2002 8:06:21 PM]
Old 20 May 2002, 08:03 PM
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roadrunner,
I had a mate with an almost identical problem.
After trying the police/council/legal routes which all failed he went for an alternative method that did work...
Don't want to give details on here but email me & I'll let you know what he did.

BOB
Old 20 May 2002, 08:13 PM
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Roadrunner,
i agree with some of the above he should have his head kicked in but this wont solve anything and you will end up worse off.
Instead,like a few have said,take a interest in his old banger Nova, "Wow,Youve got Nitrous!","I love those Wheels" Get him to take you for a spin and tell him that his car is loads quicker than yours.
At the End of the day its probably jelousy,he drives a old piece of scrap and you have a minting scooby.He'll be thinking in his mind that his car is better than yours and youve told him(but you will know best)

p.s what is it with nova's?A teen in the local pub said his nova was better than my Evo because it had been i max power!!!
Wan****
Old 20 May 2002, 08:36 PM
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just post on the net that he is a paedophile (sp) and other people will soon hear about it and drive him out.

I do like the laxative idea for the dogs though.

Shove a Lb of suger in his fuel tank. At least it will **** the car.
Old 20 May 2002, 08:38 PM
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hi m8
No point in talking to the police. They can't do anything. Leaves you 4 choices
1. Ignore him
2. Befriend him if you can
3. face him up. not violent - just that you're ready to stand up for wife etc.
4. Move
Up to you m8. We had a neighbour in the road that used to kick sh*t out of his wife when he was drunk. We all ignored it until one day when p*ssed he said he was going to trash my car one night. Ended up about 3 inches apart and surprise, surprise he backed down. 2 other neighbours did it in the same week. He was totally different towards us. Still think he beat the family though. Tw*t.
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Old 20 May 2002, 09:03 PM
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I've not read the whole thread but here's my 2p

We live in a block of 4, us in no3 and pain in the *** teacher in no1. 2 and 4 are great. No1 is a pain for all of us. Not going into detail, but parking and access issues.

Why not try what I did - talk to her (him in your case). Do the diplomat thing - try to find some common ground.

Good luck

David

PS - Nice post Diablo, we are getting a few to many knobers on here.
Old 20 May 2002, 09:42 PM
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$hit I'm sorry to hear this...

If you can afford it and its got to you both that much, then move and put it down to one of lifes "trying times". If it is too costly to move or you want to stay put, you have a couple of options.

Violence isn't really going to get you anywhere apart from a possible court case and him possibly seeking revenge (It'll make you feel better though ). The last thing you want is the wife/missus to be verbally insulted or damage to property, while your not there.

I take it hes bought the house next to you and not renting it privately/council, etc?

Nath
Old 21 May 2002, 09:27 AM
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If they are still building houses on the estate I suggest that you go into the show home/office and let them know. I would think that they would want to sort it out themselves, before it puts anymore people off of buying in your road/area.

Daz
Old 21 May 2002, 02:23 PM
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I think your have to becareful because if you get them to dislike you then they could hurt your car or house etc.

Try to get on with them if this don't work move..

chel xxx
Old 21 May 2002, 02:34 PM
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Take him up on his 'race'! let him go each time. he'll of course use the nos everytime so it'll eventually blow up.

Just ignore him. report him each time when he drives like a nutter. keep a little note on all the unsocial behaviour. My mate had trouble from the downstairs neighbour who kept on knocking on my mates door complaining as he sleeps during the day (they live adjacent to a trina line too!!) and my mate keeps waking him up (my mate is not the noisy sort either). My mate told him one day that he's keeping a list of all the silly behaviour and will use it if it continues. Not heard form the neighbour since. It'd prove useful having a record of events if the situation gets worse & police get involved etc. hopefully your other neighbours will back you up too.

good luck with it all.
Old 21 May 2002, 06:27 PM
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agree with the sensible posts!
try to mediate and at least get on with him. Don't turn him into an enemy.

Ref all the suggestions of violence - have to consider it in terms of game theory - a way of analysing strategic moves, originally military, now used in business strategy(if he does X, what options do I have etc etc).

Who has the most to lose? (probably you)
Who is likely to be the most prepared to get nasty, either against you, your property or someone you care about? (probably him, as you sound normal and civilised)
If you front up to him, is your threat credible? (probably not, you have seen that he's thoroughly antisocial and irratinal; he has seen that you're normal)

So the only way a threat of violence works is when the other person has reason to believe that:
- you are quite prepared to do it
- if you do start down that route, you will carry it through no matter what he does
- you have the means to carry it through.

Two choices then: be nice; or be seriously nasty - e.g. get him beat up properly, kill his dogs, burn his car.

I'd try being nice first. (don't take this as an incitement to violence!)
Old 21 May 2002, 06:54 PM
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I never realised how many people don't get on with their neighbours until I became a planning officer - so many people are at war with those they live next to. My advice to people is always to be as polite as possible and just try to stay out their way. You can't reason with or change nutters like that so don't bother trying. If he tries to race you don't play along cause if you beat him you'll probably find you car will get keyed. In my experience the cause of a lot of these fights is jelousy. If your planning an extension or conservatory anytime soon I'd consider putting it off, trust me these nutters get insanely jelous at that sort of thing and make your life hell!! Good luck mate.
Old 21 May 2002, 11:10 PM
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Arrange to have his car Stolen. Find out where he goes. Get it torched/Smashed up,when its away from your house. he wont know who did it.

Buy a car that looks the same, get some plates made up.... Go and do something "Naughty" Let him take the blame..

Arrange for his phone to make calls to "Gay chat lines" whilst he is at work...

get some basic private details.... Flood banks etc with credit applications etc... That will stuff his credit history.

O,my god.. I'm turning into "Astraboy" !!!
Old 22 May 2002, 12:16 PM
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Right [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] THIS HAS GONE TO FAR WITH THIS GUY [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Last night my g/f said she witnessed this pratt harassing poor mike (guy in the wheel chair). she was happy doing some ironing when she heard continuous load barking outside. when she looked through the window she saw my neighbour pretending to set his dogs onto Mike nad being verbally abusive. She was too scared to say anything cos the dogs looked really pissed off.

I popped around to see how mike was. He is now scared to go out as my neighbour threatened to toe mike down the street behind his nova [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] WTF is this guy on [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

I'm therefore declaring WAR on this pratt. I GO home to relax & be happy, not to be faced with this crap. Therefore could anyone please give me advise on how to fu@k this guy up ie best ninja move to do or best undercover mission on him? I need to be stealthy as I don't want him to release that it is me who is fu@king him up. This guy will wish he never fu@ked me off [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Regards
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Old 22 May 2002, 12:22 PM
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Don't jump the gun. Call up the local police station, and speak to your neighbours. Get the police around for a chat with you all, and tell them what's going on. They are there to protect and serve, so give them a try.

Old 22 May 2002, 12:33 PM
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Surely that's abuse and threatening behaviour - call the police, or get Mike to call the police - make sure you've got a record of dates etc - don't do anything yourself, you'll get done for something. I know it's hard, try to think with your head, not with your heart.

Let us know. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img][img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img][img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Good luck.

Jen

P.S. What a b*stard.
Old 22 May 2002, 01:21 PM
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I wish I could do a "search" and find the post that Astraboy did about getting even, it was quality and could help you
Old 22 May 2002, 01:52 PM
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daz unfortunately the search doesn't work. anyway m8 I was just venting my anger & will most probably not do anything stupid (just yet)
Old 22 May 2002, 01:53 PM
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I loved the idea about laxative chocolate to his dogs.. When Rotties **** boy do they ****.. fancy that nice and runny around the house..
Old 22 May 2002, 02:05 PM
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Revenge sounds great until you actually try to do it. After all, how do you know he started it and not Mike?

Being a tosser is not a criminal offence, but harassment is. Threatening to set your dogs on someone in a public place is also an offence and I suspect that given the current "dangerous dogs" climate, the police will be more than a little interested in his two mutts. Get the police involved as it sounds like your g/f witnessed threatening behaviour, this is why you pay your taxes.

If you go round and pretend to be Bruce Lee, he'll just come back in a week with ten of his mates and they'll probably wait until your g/f is in the house on her own. Assuming he doesn't kick the sh*t out of you first and then get you imprisoned for burglary and assault.

Idiots like this do not take a kicking and think "fair cop", they get their own back. If he is the real thing (and not just a ****), then he probably knows more about the law than you think and will be well able to stitch you up. Think about what you are saying, you want to go around and beat him up because you don't like him? Who's the thug here? It's going to sound great read out in front of a jury.

Never escalate something like this unless you are fully prepared to take it to its natural conclusion.

I know it's not easy, but calm down and try do the right thing. If that doesn't work, then call Astraboy.
Old 22 May 2002, 04:02 PM
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The only thing you can do is 'MOVE '.
I had three years of the same ****!
Did the lot: Police c.a. etc. But I'm afraid these people are above the law.
So in the end I moved. I feel a lot better now.
Old 22 May 2002, 04:20 PM
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Race him !!! and **** on his piece of **** nova....

Cant really see the point of giving the mutts laxatives, they will just get beaten by the pillock !

Junk mailing him is a good one - will **** him off no end.

Id move if I were you, cut your losses and buy elsewhere !

good luck mate, dont get involved in a bundle with him, he will just get loads of his pikey mates round and then you will be up **** street !
Old 22 May 2002, 10:13 PM
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The man is a psychopath - no amount of befriending will work, and he will be prepared to go furhter than you in any "war" situation. So, it is basically see what the police might do, but otherwise moving seems the only real option.

I know it seems like defeat but life is too short.

If he is as bad as you make out he will surely have a conviction record with the cops and it is only a matter of time before he gets nicked again and might get a custodial which would give you temporary relief, but that isnt worht waiting for and you have to ask yourself: do i want to live next to such a person?


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