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Old 07 June 2013, 10:53 PM
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I would like to think th moon landings did happen and always roll my eyes but got watching it and started to wonder when they talked about the cross hairs or the pictures that were different locations but weren't.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar...ing_experiment
Old 07 June 2013, 11:04 PM
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It's great that through all this debate you choose this one line...to quote... Thanks

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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
I would like to think th moon landings did happen and always roll my eyes but got watching it and started to wonder when they talked about the cross hairs or the pictures that were different locations but weren't.
Tell me Robsy, what empircal evidence, and by that I mean personal to you, and obviously evidence based, experience do you have that the world is round

It looks flat to me, i have seen no personal evidence of the earths "roundness" and if it was round, surely people would fall off "the bottom"

What's your view
Old 07 June 2013, 11:56 PM
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Actually there really are people who believe the earth is flat

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7540427.stm




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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Tell me Robsy, what empircal evidence, and by that I mean personal to you, and obviously evidence based, experience do you have that the world is round

It looks flat to me, i have seen no personal evidence of the earths "roundness" and if it was round, surely people would fall off "the bottom"

What's your view
The earth is round , well it looks round when you see it from the moon !
Old 08 June 2013, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Tell me Robsy, what empircal evidence, and by that I mean personal to you, and obviously evidence based, experience do you have that the world is round

It looks flat to me, i have seen no personal evidence of the earths "roundness" and if it was round, surely people would fall off "the bottom"

What's your view
The earth is flat supported on a turtles back!
Old 08 June 2013, 12:10 PM
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Ive got a couple of Saturn V's i picked up cheap on the bay a few years back,

I'll fuel one up and pop up there during the week lol ,

I reckon that if i hook a big enough tow rope to the thing, i should get it back ok.


Then lets see if the ****** drifts lol


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Old 08 June 2013, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by his-n-her-scoobs
Actually there really are people who believe the earth is flat

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7540427.stm




There are people that believe in a higher being. Madness.
Old 08 June 2013, 03:36 PM
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Yep, I believe in Madness. Baggy Trousers was their best hit




Old 08 June 2013, 03:59 PM
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I have no reason to doubt that the moon landings did occur.

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Old 08 June 2013, 04:08 PM
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If its in the sport it has to be true.

Old 08 June 2013, 04:44 PM
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Showing my age here, but I remember discussing that one, 231 OCU groundcrew crewroom, RAF Wyton

IIRC it has a statement about scientists couldn't figure how a B17 could carry enough fuel to fly all the way there

I think another paper pointed put that it would only require enough fuel to fly 3/4 of the way, then it would fall the rest of the way pmsl




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Old 09 June 2013, 04:41 PM
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I remember discussing the possibility of it happening in 231 OCU crewroom at Bassingbourn!

And then much later on 231 OCU at Cottesmore followed by at Marham!

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Old 09 June 2013, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Ok, I've read that twice and I still don't understand that
Phew, glad I'm not the only one. I thought I was going mad
Old 09 June 2013, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I remember discussing the possibility of it happening in 231 OCU crewroom at Bassingbourn!

And then much later on 231 OCU at Cottesmore followed by at Marham!

Les

That makes you MUCH older than me, and you would have known much more about the B17 too lol





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Old 10 June 2013, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by yabbadoo4
the iss is in a low earth orbit and is protected by the geomagnetic field around the earth as was all the shuttle misssions. once above this field there is then the van allen radiation belts which are very dangerous with high and dangerous levels of radiation and of course open space above and beyond that. it does seem far fetched to think that 2mm of tin foil protected the occupants from dangerous and unpredictible levels of radiation. if you read about it nasa say that they only flew through this radiation belt for a short time but beyond these belts its reasonable to assume there are plenty more regions of radiation with dangerous levels on a trip to the moon?
The Van Allen belts are dangerous, but the claims made by the conspiracy theorists are rubbish. The type of radiation is high energy protons and electron, and metal is not a good defense for this type of radiation, but rather polyethylane, or things like the fibrous lining of the command module.

Also, the belts only sit at certain latitudes above and below the equator, the trajectory of the Apollo missions took them through the very egdes, and not for particularly long.

As for being exposed to others sources, even the ISS can be exposed to high energy bursts, but the protection means the astronauts remain unharmed.

The evidence we went to the moon is compelling, the evidence it was a hoax is quite laughable to be honest.

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Old 10 June 2013, 07:40 PM
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I'm not 2 concerned about if they did or not
But anyone who has watched ED White's first E.V.A. Into the unknown is a remarkable piece of footage & truly shows the capability & courage of man . RIP
Old 10 June 2013, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
The Van Allen belts are dangerous, but the claims made by the conspiracy theorists are rubbish. The type of radiation is high energy protons and electron, and metal is not a good defense for this type of radiation, but rather polyethylane, or things like the fibrous lining of the command module.

Also, the belts only sit at certain latitudes above and below the equator, the trajectory of the Apollo missions took them through the very egdes, and not for particularly long.

As for being exposed to others sources, even the ISS can be exposed to high energy bursts, but the protection means the astronauts remain unharmed.

The evidence we went to the moon is compelling, the evidence it was a hoax is quite laughable to be honest.

Geezer
I suppose you're right. Afterall Mr. Spoon went to Button Moon every week without fail. So it must be possible.
Old 14 June 2013, 01:38 PM
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The thing I love about conspiracy theorists (particularly the lunar ones) is how they will attack multiple points of something in the hope that they can get something to half stick. The nonsense about Van Allen belts, shadows, lack of stars in the sky, heat on the moon surface. Seriously which angle do you want us to side with you on?

When they think they're onto something they'll then keep attacking that angle, but will switch between different lines of non sequitur according to how they're doing.

There is no single bit of evidence that supports the lunar conspiracies, merely lots of half baked ideas from people who WANT to believe it didn't happen. There is so much information on tap from so many different sources that don't conflict I really cannot understand why anyone would continue to argue in favour of a huge multinational conspiracy.

If this bunch want a real conspiracy theory to get their teeth into they should get onto Subaru with their chocolate 2.5 pistons!
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They have some valid points though , but they can't accept the explanations .

The flag blowing in the "breeze"
The well lit items in the shadows.
The various angles of shadows with only one light source.
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Ok if the moon landing was a hoax, what kind of environment do you need to create in order for the moon rover's wheels or the astronauts feet not to kick up clouds of dust (moon dust is as fine as talcum powder) as it was moving over the lunar landscape. All the dust kicked up immediately fell back to the surface. If there was air and a breeze blowing why is this dust not carried away?
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Originally Posted by jonc
Ok if the moon landing was a hoax, what kind of environment do you need to create in order for the moon rover's wheels or the astronauts feet not to kick up clouds of dust (moon dust is as fine as talcum powder) as it was moving over the lunar landscape. All the dust kicked up immediately fell back to the surface. If there was air and a breeze blowing why is this dust not carried away?
Plus how did they manage to get it back to earth and market it as a novelty confection
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Originally Posted by jonc
Ok if the moon landing was a hoax, what kind of environment do you need to create in order for the moon rover's wheels or the astronauts feet not to kick up clouds of dust (moon dust is as fine as talcum powder) as it was moving over the lunar landscape. All the dust kicked up immediately fell back to the surface. If there was air and a breeze blowing why is this dust not carried away?
There is no breeze.
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
There is no breeze.
What about that flag blowing in the "breeze"?
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Plus how did they manage to get it back to earth and market it as a novelty confection
Don't think cheese can be classed as a confectionery.
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Originally Posted by jonc
What about that flag blowing in the "breeze"?
I think you're taking me the wrong way , I just stated the theories that some come up with , and the fact there are perfectly normal answers that they don't accept.

I thought they had fair points until I seen Mythbusters.
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
I think you're taking me the wrong way , I just stated the theories that some come up with , and the fact there are perfectly normal answers that they don't accept.

I thought they had fair points until I seen Mythbusters.
I knew where you were coming form.
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Originally Posted by CharlySkunkWeed
I think you're taking me the wrong way , I just stated the theories that some come up with , and the fact there are perfectly normal answers that they don't accept.

I thought they had fair points until I seen Mythbusters.
I had a argument with an idiot you asked "how come their is a picture/film of Armstrong descending the ladder of the module, to step onto the moon"

The implication being that it was all filmed on a giant film set

The simple answer is that the module had an external camera,

I mean if they could manage to get a man to the moon, then they could probably manage to fit a camera to the outside of the lunar module
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So, we did factually land on the moon. OK.

What happened to Osama's body, though? Anyone?

I've recently heard that Obama is keeping him alive the White House, and he has become his secret agent/best pal. Not sure if it's true.
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^
Crazy man / after a slot to the head & entry through eye socket ( I don't think so )
Besides the dirty **** is at the bottom of the PEURTO RICO Trench
That's 8648 metres to you/ me


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