seppy

personally i prefer the blob wrx. i have had mine just over 2 and half years and i love her to bits. pretty nippy standard, just had some mods done, now rapid as hell. granted i have blown the head gasket beating an m5 and r8 but generally the wrx is perfect. i could run the daughter to school and put £100 worth of shopping in ther boot. didnt drive it to work as its easier for me to walk, but if i needed to go around town got 20-25 ish mpg. my hometown is 285 miles from where i work and when i visit my family i can get home on 3/4 tank of fuel sat at 85mph with the odd burst on back roads. mine cost me £5k to buy. looked after. STi is for fun. imo wrx with little mods sounds like what you need.

seppy

personally i prefer the blob wrx. i have had mine just over 2 and half years and i love her to bits. pretty nippy standard, just had some mods done, now rapid as hell. granted i have blown the head gasket beating an m5 and r8 but generally the wrx is perfect. i could run the daughter to school and put £100 worth of shopping in ther boot. didnt drive it to work as its easier for me to walk, but if i needed to go around town got 20-25 ish mpg. my hometown is 285 miles from where i work and when i visit my family i can get home on 3/4 tank of fuel sat at 85mph with the odd burst on back roads. mine cost me £5k to buy. looked after. STi is for fun. imo wrx with little mods sounds like what you need.

MattyB1983

iTrader: (51)

You beat an M5 and a R8 in your wrx ????
Whats your spec,

iain85

That's the conclusion I'm coming to. Cheers for the heads up.

Also I'm interested in a standard 03 plate which has 100k on the clock. Apparently it's on the original clutch. This sound right? How much are replacement clutches?

daz1968

iTrader: (13)

You would be better with a good wrx rather than a cheap sti. But my advice is think what you want and if it means waiting a bit longer then wait until you have the money. I have owned a uk wrx blob and now a widetrack jdm sti, I thought my wrx was great but deep down I wanted an sti, it is a better car for what I want but may not be a better car for someone else, I modded my wrx to ppp spec approx 265bhp and fitted sti brembo brakes and wheels to me this was as far as I was prepared to mod it and when I wanted more I changed the car.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Yep, Don't let the STI fanboys sway you too much, the things that put me off a Blob STI are the firm ride, the blue interior and the gear box, when I bought my first Scooby I had the funds for an STI or a WRX, took both for a test drive and decided I prefered the WRX as a place to sit and the drive, the 5 speed box is also much nicer to live with than the 6 speed.

The key questions are application and future plans, If as in your first post track days are going to be a BIG part of what it's used for and mods are on the cards then yes STI all the way, BUT if as in your subsequent posts daily driver Mrs friendly and the once in a blue moon track day then the WRX is a Very capable car.

Mine is a Blob WRX Wagon PPP with AP 4 pot brakes and a few small handling mods, and i'm certain there is nothing in the same price bracket and considerably higher price brackets that can hand me my *** on the road, they may be faster but they won't be going anywhere.

Many slate PPP but most have never driven one, mine is on 94,000 I think and still going strong, Remapping involves risk, PPP is a proven map and brings power up to STI levels, and the fact that the WRX has a smaller faster spooling turbo and longer gear ratio's means it's quicker where it counts, but the STI fanboys don't like it when I say that, but IT IS TRUE.

iain85

Cheers all,

So any advice about being on an original clutch at 105000 miles? Big bill waiting to happen? How much are clutch replacements?

BigZee87

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you can get it done for about £500 or less, some garages will try and charge a lot more especially Subaru dealers. personally I wouldn't go for something with over 90k on it, in my eyes that's when its a high millage car and you will have trouble selling it on and theres also the thought that something could go wrong.

rich_g3

Must of had at least 5-10k spent on a WRX to beat either of them

BigZee87

iTrader: (3)

big time, I can beat my mates m5 off the line but as soon as he get traction hes gone lol

iain85

Thanks for the heads up. I see what you mean but this one is completely standard with full suburu service history so I am hoping it hasn't seen too hard a life considering its still on the original clutch. I will probably keep the Suburu until its worthless anyway so am more interested on buying on condition. That being said there are so many to choose from its hard to make a decision! It seems the cars are good for higher milages according to replies and threads on the forum so hopefully I won't get a lemon. Does any one recommend RAC/AA car inspections?

MattyB1983

iTrader: (51)

Many wrx owners wish they owned a sti and even spend fortunes trying to turn it into an sti, but how many sti owners wish they bought a wrx ???

At the end of the day it comes down to budget. If you must have a blob now and have sub 6 grand to spend then yes, it's a wrx you want. However, if you can wait and put some more money away then an sti is the better buy.
Wrx owners will always rave about their cars, but for most, if they could own a sti they would jump at the chance.

iain85

Hi Matty, I take your point but my budget is sub 4k so I think the Wrx is for me. Also I can't justify 6k at the moment and if I really get the bug I dont mind trading 'up' to a Sti if needs be.. I don't envisage or even need R8 rivalling performance, but would be happy to realise my Impreza childhood dream for sensible money. it's not always about straight line speed for me. After all I owned a 160bhp Elise and loved it. ; )

Any advice about what to check for?

BoozyDave

iTrader: (8)

if i had wanted an sti, i would have bought one. i even looked at evo's, but i prefered the sound of the scooby and out of the sti and wrx, i prefered the wrx. it's not like sti's are mega expensive or anything. sti's aren't some magical model that some people make them out to be

yes, the PPP wrx is faster than a std sti.
the only thing i meant with the PPP map being rich is when it was mapped by prodrive it was made to last for 100k, a new remap would just free up some more horses

daz1968

iTrader: (13)

I went from uk wrx to twinscroll sti and that has spool better than wrx and top end better than uk sti so that's were my vote goes, but the harder ride and lower geared 6 speed box is not for everyone.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

B!tch please!

I am p!ssing myself writing this.

I still don't get why you sing there praises when by your own admission you don't like them.

Not everyone want's an STI as a daily driver, but some of us just love Imprezas, I can't imagine life without one, and I enjoy driving one everyday when I can.

This opinion that the STI is the "be all and end all" of subaru ownership really does need re-evaluating.

I'm a Classic man through and through, that's where my heart is, which is why I have what I consider to be the best Classic, V3 STI Type r wins for me every day of the week 365 days a year. full stop........

But driving it every day would make me hate it, but again it's a TOTALLY different car.

New age STI's just don't do it for me, (and many others I suspect) they are too hard and garish for my liking and rather un-involving to drive and the 6 speed box is shyte for real world, add to the fact they cost twice what a WRX does for little or no REAL world performance gain means they make even less sense, 4 doors are useless to me, and a hard ride on crap roads just p!sses me off, sweerving to avoid little bumps for fear of loosing a tooth or p!ssing blood for a week, I need practicality, an acceptable level of comfort and a reasonable turn of speed when required, and I don't like to attract attention in my daily life getting from A to B.

In my mind unless your into modding or doing regular track days there is no point other than bragging rights down the pub or on the internet, otherwise why put up with one as a daily, just a waste of money IMO.

Oh and i'd have a Classic STI over a newage STI every day of the week, which is why one is in the garage and the WRX is on the drive, nothing to do with money.

ash_martin_87

I'd say go for a nice blobeye wrx with your budget..

Ditch your argument could be used in loads of scenarios tbh (330i vs m3, evo gsr vs evo fq400 etc) the truth of the matter is that the sti is the top spec model and they hold their value very well!

I've never driven a standard sti, fortunately mine had thousands spent on it previously... That said I would agree the ride is bumpy (but that's what I expected) and what is wrong with the gearbox? The ratios are short, as is the throw and it feels solid! If you want something comfortable and quick then you shouldn't be looking at an impreza/evo at all!

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Mate at the end of the day it's horses for courses, when I bought my first scoob new in 04 I test drove both and had the money for either, and found I didn't like the garesh looks, blue interior, really harsh ride, and the 6 speed box of the STI, there are many that don't like it, so i'm not alone.

The WRX on the other hand looked very classy in black with the small spoiler, nice black Interior, firm ish ride but not too harsh and I wasn't up and down the box like a yo yo, and it felt more positive when changing gear.

However a few years later when I wanted a track / weekend toy I opted for the STI type r, and I have only recently come to like the way it looks, a bit like the old Escort mk 1's, they grow on you after a while, It like the WRX was a tool bought to do a specific job, I'ts for the same reason that I now have a WRX wagon PPP, I'm not a modder so as opposed to going down the remap route as I did with my first WRX when I wanted a little more poke, I got the one that comes with it from prodrive, which I think is the safer route.

As for BMW's and EVO's both do nothing for me and both are driven by nobbers that think they have made it in life.

JensonsScooby

Hey....

Have you found anything yet? You still going for the blob?

Billy

JensonsScooby

Hey....

Have you found anything yet? You still going for the blob?

Billy

JensonsScooby

Hey....

Have you found anything yet? You still going for the blob?

Billy

iain85

Nothing as yet....

amh82

Did you not look at the blue saloon you linked to in an earlier thread? I think the seller posted on here to ask opinions of it.

iain85

Well he asked if I was going to come view it to which I replied I couldn't come till Tuesday (this was last week). He said someone was coming to view at the weekend so I presumed it sold as he didn't contact me back. I then saw it for a reduced price on pistonheads which makes me think that there may of been something the other seller found on his viewing.
Any links to the chaps post?

JensonsScooby

Have a look in the for sale section.
I seen a silver 03 plate on here for only £2700

A little high mileage, so check the service out in detail.

tubbytommy

iTrader: (20)

I have to say the wrx is a much nicer everyday drive, the gearbox is better suited to road driving, but for an all out blast the sti will destroy it.
im with you on the seats etc too.

JensonsScooby

Here is the link
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...wrx-worth.html

iain85

Thanks I was going to look at that one but the seller went dark on me! I'll have to see what goes as work is keeping me busy till next week so il keep checking here and pistonheads daily. Post up if you see any gud uns!

jonnyricer2

iTrader: (9)

Pop into south east scoobies there s a nice silver wrx and a blue wrx dressed up as an sti
both nice cars sensibly priced!!

iain85

Where's that mate?