J pascoe

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Well it seems I'm only half chav then, as no tattoos here and my mattress is kept in my bedroom.
Seriously you need to pull your head out your a**e and have a reality check.
My point is you can't stereo type people because they own a certain dog.
Do you also judge people on their race ? Or where they live?
Why are you on scoobynet if think they are so chavy ?
Surely you should be on snobbynet as you don't seem to like subarus much.
I understand some people may not like dogs and some dogs DO attack but there is generally a reason for that and banning is not the answer. I would happily pay insurance,get a license or do a course of some sort to own a dog
I'm not going to reply again I've had my say and clearly you are not the sort of person who will see other points of view so I'm only wasting my own time.

Martin2005

As a dog owner I have a question

At some point you like me were deciding upon which breed of dog you were going to get.

I ended up with a Golden Retriever

What criteria led you to Staffordshire Bull Terrier?

marshall332bhp

this breed is well known for sudden change in the personality and turning aggressive.

CharlySkunkWeed

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My Jack Russell was a "rescue" dog , well I took it off a guy who had a baby on the way and didnt want both. It was a year old when I got it , and it got kept in a small back hallway and must have been "disciplined" alot as if I made any sudden movements it scarpered.
Now 2 years on its fine round my family , but wary of strange men.At the weekend I had a mate and his missus round for drinks. They know the history of the dog and are dog owners themselves.

After a few drinks his missus lifted it dog (its looked uneasy) she said "aw , u dont like being lifted" and put yhe dog back down. Then (for some reason) she decided she immediately wanted to lift it again. She chased it round the kitchen and the dog rolled over , paws in the air (sure sign it felt threatened) She made a grab for it and the dog snapped (no contact) so she slapped it on the mouth. The dog made its feelings clear by biting he hand , drawing blood.
The mates missus laughed it off , but I told her she should have more sence and deserved it . Just annoyed me that it could be misconstrued to insinuate I have a vicious dog.

ScoobyWon't

He's two, his hormones are raging. He'll hump anything!

GazTheHat

Could you not start at the root? Breeders. Control supply & need. You need a special license to breed (any) dogs, a contract of sale, everyone is vetted.

Adam@SC

Security for my family when I'm not at home is the main reason we have a dog they are a very good burglar deterrent and can warn me if anyone is near our property, hes seen off a couple of hoodie types in the wee hours before.

cster

I believe in America, that people are more likely to be shot in their homes by a gun that they own rather than by someone else's.
I wonder if a similar danger applies with dogs in the home environment, especially breeds that are selected for the the reason of providing security?

Shaid

Is dag ownership a human right there days?

spik

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why is it every staffy owner it is assumed is a chav and that every staffy type dog is going to attack somebody!!!!!. im in my forties have a lovely home and work very hard. i have had the pleasure of having 3 staffies as pets, but more as another member of my family .all 3 are/ were very gentle loving dogs and not in the slightest a danger to anyone. if you train your dog, look after it and treat it with respect then you wont have any problems.

Matteeboy

Earlier in the year I was running across the beach at the start of a coast run. A collie bolted up behind me and tried to bite my leg. I stopped, eyeballed it and circled as it tried to get behind me to bite me. I shouted very loudly to try and warn it off but it still kept snarling. With no options I was about to kick its head in but it finally backed off.

Did the run, came back across the beach and saw the dog acting aggressively towards others. I spotted the owner and asked if hers was the dog that just attacked me. She said "oh she was a bit loud wasn't she" to which I replied "she just tried to attack me and you did nothing."

Shocked at the lack of apology, she ended up telling me I was being aggressive in the first place. By running across a beach!!!! I ended up pretty annoyed and told her if I saw the dog again, it would get a sound shoeing. She comforted her poor mutt like it was being treated cruelly.

This has happened twice before (similar) each time with a middle aged loony woman owner albeit different each time.

My dog wasn't with me at the time but if she acted aggressively towards a person (she never has), she would be in serious trouble.

That's what is often ignored; the utterly ignorant owner who has no concept that her dog might be a problem.

Never had an issue with "chav" dogs.

pimmo2000

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As a cyclist I can completely relate to that, the number of idiots letting their dogs run wild and dart in front of you. Lots of local cycle paths have walkers on, I'm careful, but often get told to slow down or mind the dog.

It's a mentality.

Dingdongler

This is the only reason I can see to have a dog in urban areas and on this basis considered having one. I went for an alarm and cctv cameras instead because of small children and not wanting my house to smell.

dpb

Collies are just slightly mad anyway though,

When I was a teenager guy next door had one and it was just uncontrollable, called it Boot,cos it would go for your shoes .

It would regularly chase the bus out of the village trying to bite the rear tyres probably for half a mile

I don't think there was any malice in it

tony de wonderful

When I was cycling I used to avoid one long cycle track for this very reason.

The entitlement with some dog owners is beyond belief, they expect everyone to get out of their way, and modify their behaviour to accommodate their dog. Some even blame the victims when they get attacked; it's the victims fault for not knowing how to act around dogs!

pimmo2000

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Kids smell more than dogs I have both to compare ..

Turbohot

LOL @ Boots the mentalist.


About that kids and animals, I actually got our first ever pet- a cat because my kids moidered me to get one. My son was about 6 and daughter was 2. Their child minder's cat had had kittens, and my kids cried their eyes out to get one of them. It was a sheer joy to have Mrs. Billi. She had two litters in her life time. We sold the kittens for 10 quid each. A woman who looked like the main heroine from the film Misery came to select a couple of jet black kittens with green eyes (nothing like their half-Siamese mummy). She even painted their nails to make sure she got the ones she wanted when she came to collect them again.

Currently, we have two cats. One fat Rubix one is in and out due to heat, and the other Ms. Coco one has been resting in her cage due to getting caught in some hit and run on Father's Day, and breaking her tiny pelvis at three places. We are caring for her, and so pleased that she survived the nasty accident.

Keeping animals requires extra hygiene. We have Dyson Animal to sort that issue out with our cats' hairs. We don't vacuum clean our cats directly, but we clean our house with it.

I don't like owners of unruly dogs, and I don't like dangerous dogs. They are unpredictable no matter how trained they are. We had a number of GSDs in my family home, and I know it. One of them aka Ms. Julie turned on me one day when I was walking back from school (I was about 6, then), and scratched me all over with excitement. I remember changing and getting into a long-sleeved sweatshirt to hide my scratches, and felt awful all evening. She was fully vaccinated, so the doc said that there was not threat of any infection, but I lost my trust in dogs since then.

My son has a rescue Staffy from the Animal Rescue place where he volunteered on the weekends. He didn't plan to get him. He wanted a cat instead, but his dad didn't want cats hairs all over the house (he now lives with his dad). But this dog Mr. Jake used to break away from his kennel and sit in the front of that secure rescue place quietly without harming any one. He won my son's heart, and ended up going to his. I like Jake, but only in small dosage. He nearly killed my fat cat, so my son doesn't bring him to mine that often any more.

I read some cyclists here complaining. I can't take a relaxed walk in this lovely countryside any more for this very same reason. Never mind the walkers' dogs, some guard dogs come running out if you are passing the front of their farmhouse, to shred you in bits. Something must be done about the dangerous dogs' over-paranoid owners. They must be terribly insecure people.

mervil

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I'll answer that for you...

I go into a lot of properties as a heating engineer, I wanted a dog that barks as little as possible, doesn't get growly or upset when a stranger is INVITED into the house by the owner! I was after a dog that is easy to train and is great with kids and other animals!

Now, a Jack Russell was out, so were all other yappy little dogs who have small dog syndrome and want to bite your ankles etc! Out of all the properties I've been in, Council and private, the Staffy always stood out as a great family dog who are more licky than bitey, react the best to discipline and love a cuddle too! My Dave is coming up 2 and is such a great pooch, I would not hesitate in bringing up a baby around her!

With responsible owners come responsible dogs!

Martin2005

Well if the only choice was between Jack Russel and a Staffy then I'd get a cat!!

Dave???

CharlySkunkWeed

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My 1st Jack Russel was the most placid thing , I had it from it was a pup. My current one is only yappy if someone comes close to the house , but it was a year old when I got it , so its all in they way they are brought up.

mervil

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There was a much larger choice than those but you've got more chance of me getting a chihuahua than a lazy *** cat...

and yep... Dave the dog (well, Bitch to be exact!)

Steve's Sti

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as said previously its the owners to blame, as my rottie wouldn't harm a fly but every little dog feels the need to run up to him barking like hell into his face, he doesn't take them on at all, everydog has bad reputations, personally i blame all the dogs that start the fights, especially the little dogs who aggravate the bigger dogs, end of day treat a dog like crap expect it to attack someone at some point in its life

Devildog

That sort of stuff makes me sick. Dumb f*ck cops with guns thinking they are John Wayne. Can't even get a clean shot ffs. B*stards.

Devildog

But anyway, I see the usual suspects are hard at it again on this thread

Much misinfomration and stereotyping. No real understanding of the breeds in question, or the raw facts.

Scoobynet at its finest

J4CKO

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Ding, ok, I think this is partly cultural, same with Shaid, am I right in saying you guys are of Asian origin ? I get the impression that Asian families as a very general rule dont keep Dogs, my wife's Asian friend and her son insist the dog is put in another room they cant abide him, I have seen Asian delivery guys scuttle off down the path when they saw the dog, I am not sure of this, it is just an observation and you called Dogs Dirty, well, they are really but they generally make up for it in being generally awesome, hilarious, good company and the house feels empty without one.

I think the "Staffy" thing is cultural, twenty years ago they were just another breed, but young men spotted the Pit Bull appearing in American rap videos and other pop culture and wanted a bit of that, and in the way that a Capri used to suffice as a Mustang substitute over here, the poor old SBT got the Pit Bull Lite image.

Staffies can be lovely dogs but, they are very powerful for their size, males can be fairly big and wilful, especially if "intact" and not trained, a raging, rock hard lump of testosterone that is eager to please its master, even if its master is a dick and has it doing unpleasant stuff or leaving it to its own devices. Trouble is now the Staff has this Chav image, round here people see them as such and will pull there dogs away, to be honest I am a bit wary as I have ended up with one wrapped round my leg on its lead trying to get our little mongrel because the girl that was walking it couldn't control it, they can be very dog aggressive if it isn't trained out, even then they can mis identify smaller dogs as prey animals, so it is down to the owner to be hyper vigilant and prevent this behaviour being able to manifest itself.

I wouldn't go for a big powerful dog, no need as to be honest get the right smaller dog and you get all the dog you ever need and if it does go for someone, its a nip rather than ripped apart.

Young lads having them are the problem you see it in any inner city, all part of the image, and they may love the dogs but really an SBT not on a lead is asking for trouble, saw one near my grandmas, the usual leisure attired halfwit with one, it stopped outside a terraced house, right outside the door and parked its (substantial) breakfast, he noticed it wasn't at his side, turned round,saw it crapping, and just shouted it over, leaving a huge turd right outside someones door, what kind of horrible, ignorant ****head doesn't clean that up ? The same cretins let them breed with impunity (they do it themselves as well) so you end up with so many SBT and SBT hybrid puppies, the people that rehome dogs don't generally want one so how many Staff type dogs must get put to death every year, will be thousands, like the Dog Equivalent of a traded in CityRover.

I do think registration will be key, plus the insurance idea is a good one, I pay Ł20 a month to insure ours, mainly for the medical side but also for the liability insurance.

ScoobyWon't

I've noticed it's Asian women who kick up a fuss around here. The Asian kids don't seem to mind the dogs and often comment on how the dogs look. The women just sharply grab the kids and instil their own fear in to their children. The Asian men around here will just walk passed the dogs and ignore them, yesterday there was one Asian lad at the cash and carry with his own SBT, whereas the most extreme example I saw was an Asian woman drag a young child and wheel a push-chair in to oncoming traffic to avoid passing close to a dog.

brightblue

Really?? Do you know 100% of statistics are made up!

BBB3

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I agree, I have a Staffie and he's a mega dog! He's is my son
He lives better than some humans, I actually prefer dogs to some people
Does annoy me when some gets attacked by a Staffie they never say the dog has been brought up rough and wrongly or was getting a beating, it's always the family pet turned

Anyway here's Tyrone....

Leslie

You have made a significant point.

I fully realise that a dog's behaviour can very much depend on the breed etc. By the same token, I think that the way a dog is treated by its owner can have a big effect on the way it is likely to behave. I think that if a dog is treated in a friendly and loving manner at home and not encouraged to attack other creatures then it will be less likely to cause the sort of problem that we are discussing. If an owner specifically wants his dog to have a violent and agressive nature for his own purposes,ie hunting etc. then the owner is responsible for the dog's likely behaviour and he should make sure that the animal cannot come into contact with vulnerable creatures or people.

Les

Turbohot

Good dog there, BBB3. Amusing name as well.

My son has also got a rescue Staffie. What I find weird is how this dog rests flat out in a long shape. Why can't he sit like a normal dog FFS! >






I think Jake the SBT is an extra-terrestrial. He has much stylised, trance inducing walk with every muscle moving so timely in his body that he could give any Chester races horse a run for his money. I think this dog is a mythological creature; nothing but an illusion- a figment of your imagination……until he launches himself in the air to demolish my fat cat like a missile on a mission, that is.

Cat’s hunky dory btw. Fatter, even. They don’t encounter each other anymore.