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Old 02 August 2013, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Its an R8 it would have needed 10miles to get up to 165
What? Even downhill?
Old 02 August 2013, 09:17 AM
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Pretty sure 165 in an r8 would not be that hard to get to and as said its not crime of the century but for the fact of what he said in court the judge should have locked him up lol
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Its an R8 it would have needed 10miles to get up to 165
I was going to say that
Old 02 August 2013, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by stonejedi
I agree,but the speed limits need reviewing as they are based on cars from the past that had the average power of about 50 bhp.SJ.
That is irrelevant.

Has there been any change in the drivers' personal levels of skill and ability to control a car at very high speeds or in a dangerous situation or speed of reaction.

I think that speed limits are set with that in mind and that is the right way to do it.

Even trains dont always stay on the rails!

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Old 02 August 2013, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by David Lock
Thank you Headmaster

It is fun though!!

Empty road at 5 am, what's the problem (yeah I know, don't give me a boring list please!)

dl
How disappointing.

I always considered you to be a responsible type!

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Old 02 August 2013, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
They used to test McLarens around Woking - always a good sight.

Dad used to road race a bit in the 80s but nowadays it's a very bad idea - he smoked a cop car in his 928 once - 150, 90 around a roundabout (A3 near Ripley), back down the other way. I have no idea how he got away with it!
He must have been a pretty sharp cookie!

If I ever broke the motoring laws around that part of the country I always used to get done for it!

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Old 02 August 2013, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid
It's 165 mph!

No REAL biggie.
According to the news report: The guilty party's name .... Shiad Mahmoon,



Old 02 August 2013, 10:15 PM
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The speed mentioned sounds irresponsible, but if we all get off our high horses & be totally honest, most of us who drive high powered cars have dabbled in the excessive on an empty road.
Old 02 August 2013, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RICHARD J
The speed mentioned sounds irresponsible, but if we all get off our high horses & be totally honest, most of us who drive high powered cars have dabbled in the excessive on an empty road.
I fail to see how some of us are on our high horses for being outraged at someone doing nearly 100mph over the maximum speed limit who could only be caught using a helicopter. There is a difference between dabbling and taking the ****.

Fact is that guy was a tool doing 165, I doubt he was experienced handling a high power car, he did not acknowledge how ridiculous that speed is and his attitude in court reflected his careless attitude. People like that are a danger to society behind the wheel of a car and I am massively disappointed the judge displayed leniency in not making him do time.
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Too right and well said !
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he`s a ***** for only doing 165 in my book
Old 02 August 2013, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by stedee
he`s a ***** for only doing 165 in my book
Old 02 August 2013, 11:54 PM
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Oh god, he did over 100mph,, the world will surley end......not


One word ...... Autobahn,

Spend a year driving the bahn, and then say that driving over 100 is dangerous.


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Old 03 August 2013, 02:07 AM
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Mart, 165mph is a bit different to "over 100mph". This isn't someone who has been caught doing 110 or 120 which is pushing it enough, he's been absolutely pedal to the metal reckless.

I know people who have lost their licenses for doing 100mph or more and have felt a bit sorry for them. One of my friends was actually goaded into doing so by an unmarked car on a Lancashire motorway and I am sure that one tried to do it to me once too.

In some of the cars we own a simple overtaking manoeuvre can see us nudge speeds over this 100mph that we see as a big number but there is a huge world of difference between doing that and then relentlessly gunning the gas and putting other peoples' lives at risk.

I genuinely thought there would be more support for the sentence this guy received. I don't care if it was 5am he still could have wiped someone out. It makes me wonder if some of you regularly blast it around at speeds similar to that because a good few of you have cars capable of doing so.

A good few of you seem to think 150mph+ is safe just because it's allowed in Germany. This is a country that used to have nearly 1500 deaths a year on its autobahn alone.

Stats FYI

There were 118 deaths on UK motorways alone in 2010.
In Germany that year there were 430 on the autobahn alone.

Excessive speed has been quoted as the major cause of deaths on the autobahn. They are heavily regulated in terms of lane discipline and tailgating. For a country that is roughly 25% larger than ours in population size that is quite a gulf in stats, though maybe those that see someone doing nearly 100mph over a 70mph speed limit as not a big issue will fail to appreciate that.
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Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy
I fail to see how some of us are on our high horses for being outraged at someone doing nearly 100mph over the maximum speed limit who could only be caught using a helicopter. There is a difference between dabbling and taking the ****.

Fact is that guy was a tool doing 165, I doubt he was experienced handling a high power car, he did not acknowledge how ridiculous that speed is and his attitude in court reflected his careless attitude. People like that are a danger to society behind the wheel of a car and I am massively disappointed the judge displayed leniency in not making him do time.
Calm down! Iv already stated that the speed was irresponsible, & I do agree that his attitude in court was stupid, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If we all drove at the speed limit all the time then why don't we all drive 1L corsas? I know lots of people who own high powered cars & bikes who have allegedly dabbled at these speeds & although I don't agree with it being safe to do these speeds, if you nail it on an empty road & look at your speedo you may be shocked at how the speed you have just done.
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Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy
Mart, 165mph is a bit different to "over 100mph". This isn't someone who has been caught doing 110 or 120 which is pushing it enough, he's been absolutely pedal to the metal reckless.

I know people who have lost their licenses for doing 100mph or more and have felt a bit sorry for them. One of my friends was actually goaded into doing so by an unmarked car on a Lancashire motorway and I am sure that one tried to do it to me once too.

In some of the cars we own a simple overtaking manoeuvre can see us nudge speeds over this 100mph that we see as a big number but there is a huge world of difference between doing that and then relentlessly gunning the gas and putting other peoples' lives at risk.

I genuinely thought there would be more support for the sentence this guy received. I don't care if it was 5am he still could have wiped someone out. It makes me wonder if some of you regularly blast it around at speeds similar to that because a good few of you have cars capable of doing so.

A good few of you seem to think 150mph+ is safe just because it's allowed in Germany. This is a country that used to have nearly 1500 deaths a year on its autobahn alone.

Stats FYI

There were 118 deaths on UK motorways alone in 2010.
In Germany that year there were 430 on the autobahn alone.

Excessive speed has been quoted as the major cause of deaths on the autobahn. They are heavily regulated in terms of lane discipline and tailgating. For a country that is roughly 25% larger than ours in population size that is quite a gulf in stats, though maybe those that see someone doing nearly 100mph over a 70mph speed limit as not a big issue will fail to appreciate that.
Speeding is speeding, you can't get on your high horse about it & then state that doing 120 isn't as bad, & that is my point about some people's comments on this thread. What about someone doing 100 in a 30 past a school, do you feel sorry for themif they get banned?
Old 03 August 2013, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
That is irrelevant.

Has there been any change in the drivers' personal levels of skill and ability to control a car at very high speeds or in a dangerous situation or speed of reaction.

I think that speed limits are set with that in mind and that is the right way to do it.

Even trains dont always stay on the rails!

Les
I think it's very relevant as cars are much safer now then they were all those years ago what brakes where they running?what airbags did these cars have? ABS etc......i could go on forever when they made these speed limits for are roads and highways they were based on cars with different specs.I cant really see your point about people's personal levels of skills as getting to be a skilled driver is not just passing your driving test but comes from experience one gets from driving on the road.i know when I use to take my car for a mot 24 years ago as long as the car started up and the horn worked they use to pass the car a lot has changed over the years and the speed limits should be revised and changed also,all in my own opinion of course.SJ
Old 03 August 2013, 06:07 AM
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Here's an R8 I see an Asian chap hooning about in.

http://www.thisissussex.co.uk/Driver...#axzz2asZW0Ihd

A few weeks ago he reversed off of his drive without looking, almost knocking me off my bike. And that Kebab shop always gives people the ****s. 2 birds, one stone.
Old 03 August 2013, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
According to the news report: The guilty party's name .... Shiad Mahmoon,



Well my real name is....

Shaid Mahmood

This ain't a joke either it really is.

Co incidence or what.
Old 03 August 2013, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by stedee
he`s a ***** for only doing 165 in my book
I agree.
Old 03 August 2013, 07:48 AM
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thenewgalaxy - by your own admission you havent driven at that speed yet you preach that you have to be very skilled to justify doing it safely. If you've never done it then you dont know. Ive travelled at similar speeds and in the right vehicle its not much different to 100mph anyway. At 5am on a deserted road risking nobody elses life, there isnt a problem other than hes breaking the law and taking the risk at his own expense. Stop being such a ***** about it. So many more things in the world to feel disgusted at
Old 03 August 2013, 08:00 AM
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We have no motorways down here but a few dual carriageways and fastish A roads.
Our car isn't the quickest out there by a long way but it soon gets to speeds I consider dangerous; anything over 80 on a smallish road or 100 on a dual carriageway just doesn't feel safe even though the car is totally able to cope.

It's a bit silly going that fast.
Old 03 August 2013, 09:14 AM
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This is a pointless thread, the replies on here say to me we have some utter bell end members who have no respect for other road users!

Doing 165mph isn't the issue here, everyone can drive over double the speed limit if they want to risk their license, if this was the only issue I couldn't give a toss! The fact remains you are putting everyone else in Danger.

Lets put it this way, if the R8 caused a serious incident, then we'd all be bleating about how wreckless he was, no applauding him for hitting over a Ton!

Rob

Ps- Should my family ever been harmed by someone doing such an act, I'd hunt you down and you'd wish you'd have expired in the incident
Old 03 August 2013, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
This is a pointless thread, the replies on here say to me we have some utter bell end members who have no respect for other road users!

Doing 165mph isn't the issue here, everyone can drive over double the speed limit if they want to risk their license, if this was the only issue I couldn't give a toss! The fact remains you are putting everyone else in Danger.
At what point are you stupid enough to not realise there were no other road users?
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Originally Posted by davegtt
At what point are you stupid enough to not realise there were no other road users?
My god you are naive, just be because nobody got injured didn't mean someone couldn't have! Have you ever thought what a puncture might be like at 165mph
Old 03 August 2013, 09:53 AM
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But hes not endangering anyone else if nobody else is around, a puncture at 165mph could be awful but hes only damaging himself and his car
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Originally Posted by davegtt
But hes not endangering anyone else if nobody else is around, a puncture at 165mph could be awful but hes only damaging himself and his car
Ok your right, forgive my lack of intellect. It never occurred to me that at 165mph you covering a mile nearly every 20-25 seconds! I think around 75feet a second ( I need a calculator). Should, at 5am, anybody be in the way, and at that speed he's hardly going to be able to do anything quick enough reactional wise to avoid it, then its game over.

I appreciate he's on his own, and that he could only potential kill himself, but its not him that would be grieving due to his recklessness.

I think we'll agree to disagree in this case, and sorry if I come across all wrong, I've lost a few good friends and a work colleague due to traffic accidents through recklessness, and all were not the fault of the innocent dead party, so its fair to say this kind of topic touches a nerve!

Over and out.
Rob
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No worries. I just think sometimes people are stuck in the 20th century. Technology has come a long way and people think nothing has changed because they dont accept to go with the times. Im not condoning them speeds on the public highway but as been said, the punishment is pretty severe imo
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Why don't hire cars have a speed limiter of say 90 mph?

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Don't think they'll ever hire him another one


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