Religious people are less intelligent than atheists
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Why not accept that either side are entitled to believe what they want and also that neither side have any concrete proof for those beliefs.
What therefore is the point of either side trying to run the others down?
As I said, the answer for a peaceful co-existence is tolerance, which is a significant virtue after all.
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A little warning.
I'm not going to go all the way back through this thread and spend an age editing posts, but from this point onwards I am politely asking that the word Kuffar (any spelling of) is no longer used in this thread. If it is, those using it may find themselves infracted or banned if they persist.
You can jump in and claim it's just a term to mean non-believer, but you know full well, you mean it to offend, whether you admit to that or not. Frankly to use such language makes you as bad as anyone belittling from the other side of the argument.
Feel free to keep on debating, but please can you all show a bit more respect towards one another from now on. You may have differences of OPINION, and most likely, nobody's is going to change, but you are all free to put them across, just do so in a polite manner.
I originally came onto this thread to defend the right for believers/religious folk to not be belittled by non-believers. Sadly some of the believers have been equally rude, which hardly helps any discussion.
I'm not going to go all the way back through this thread and spend an age editing posts, but from this point onwards I am politely asking that the word Kuffar (any spelling of) is no longer used in this thread. If it is, those using it may find themselves infracted or banned if they persist.
You can jump in and claim it's just a term to mean non-believer, but you know full well, you mean it to offend, whether you admit to that or not. Frankly to use such language makes you as bad as anyone belittling from the other side of the argument.
Feel free to keep on debating, but please can you all show a bit more respect towards one another from now on. You may have differences of OPINION, and most likely, nobody's is going to change, but you are all free to put them across, just do so in a polite manner.
I originally came onto this thread to defend the right for believers/religious folk to not be belittled by non-believers. Sadly some of the believers have been equally rude, which hardly helps any discussion.
But on other threads you have not spoken up in regards to words and phrases like paki's and ragheads.
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Are atheists any different then?
Why not accept that either side are entitled to believe what they want and also that neither side have any concrete proof for those beliefs.
What therefore is the point of either side trying to run the others down?
As I said, the answer for a peaceful co-existence is tolerance, which is a significant virtue after all.
Les
Why not accept that either side are entitled to believe what they want and also that neither side have any concrete proof for those beliefs.
What therefore is the point of either side trying to run the others down?
As I said, the answer for a peaceful co-existence is tolerance, which is a significant virtue after all.
Les
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Anyway all this thread seems to have proven is racism hiding behind atheism, a bit like "i'm not racist but", or "I have an asian/black freind but".
Seems this was intention of the op, he's probably looking at his screen laughing his head off, every time he post's a thread like this and disappears, while the same people argue and bicker like kids. All its doing is creating more bad feeling.
Seems this was intention of the op, he's probably looking at his screen laughing his head off, every time he post's a thread like this and disappears, while the same people argue and bicker like kids. All its doing is creating more bad feeling.
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Anyway all this thread seems to have proven is racism hiding behind atheism, a bit like "i'm not racist but", or "I have an asian/black freind but".
Seems this was intention of the op, he's probably looking at his screen laughing his head off, every time he post's a thread like this and disappears, while the same people argue and bicker like kids. All its doing is creating more bad feeling.
Seems this was intention of the op, he's probably looking at his screen laughing his head off, every time he post's a thread like this and disappears, while the same people argue and bicker like kids. All its doing is creating more bad feeling.
That shows real class, that does
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No point trying to reason with the unreasonable, alot of people on this thread have shown they are not open to reason, and resort to chlid like insults/innuendo, trying to twist words to suit their own agenda.
As far as Im concerned, if you drive a scoob you're always going to get a flash of the lights and a wave from me, even if you're from outer space
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Now please atheists start acting like the intelligent ones will ya. It's getting repetitive seeing how wrong you guys constantly seem to get things. No surprise there then lol.
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Not only have I spoken to members in the past about it, but if needed, I have issued warnings/infractions. This hasn't happened here, I have just politely requested the word above wasn't used as, regardless of it's exact definition, in my opinion it was being used in a disrespectful way.
Unless you are very sure about something, it is best not to go around throwing about untrue accusations.
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Excuse me, but you couldn't be more wrong. I have regularly spoken up against people for offensive language if I have seen it or been directed to it over all the years I have been on here, either as a mod and before I was made one. Not only that, but I have defended the right for people to have their own views and be able to have them in peace on so many occasions I have lost count.
Not only have I spoken to members in the past about it, but if needed, I have issued warnings/infractions. This hasn't happened here, I have just politely requested the word above wasn't used as, regardless of it's exact definition, in my opinion it was being used in a disrespectful way.
Unless you are very sure about something, it is best not to go around throwing about untrue accusations.
Not only have I spoken to members in the past about it, but if needed, I have issued warnings/infractions. This hasn't happened here, I have just politely requested the word above wasn't used as, regardless of it's exact definition, in my opinion it was being used in a disrespectful way.
Unless you are very sure about something, it is best not to go around throwing about untrue accusations.
Sorry, its not an untrue accusation, I tend not to post alot, try not get dragged into all this bs, but there have been many worse things said on various threads, some not too long ago, in which the usual, aggressive people said and used words which were much, much worse!
You did not say a thing and let it happen. You have done that on numerous occasions. Ive only ever seen you act when it favours the usual people with their Daily Sport viewpoint.
You have also never banned far worse words used in a disrespectful way.
This part of the forum reads as though its just a bunch of really thick, stupid edl supporters. Its quite depressing, and its what put me off becoming a paid member, but I have enough common sense to know not every person is like that.
Anyway I wont be posting anymore on this thread. Feel free to ban me if you want for questioning.
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Sorry, its not an untrue accusation, I tend not to post alot, try not get dragged into all this bs, but there have been many worse things said on various threads, some not too long ago, in which the usual, aggressive people said and used words which were much, much worse!
You did not say a thing and let it happen. You have done that on numerous occasions. Ive only ever seen you act when it favours the usual people with their Daily Sport viewpoint.
You have also never banned far worse words used in a disrespectful way.
This part of the forum reads as though its just a bunch of really thick, stupid edl supporters. Its quite depressing, and its what put me off becoming a paid member, but I have enough common sense to know not every person is like that.
Anyway I wont be posting anymore on this thread. Feel free to ban me if you want for questioning.
You did not say a thing and let it happen. You have done that on numerous occasions. Ive only ever seen you act when it favours the usual people with their Daily Sport viewpoint.
You have also never banned far worse words used in a disrespectful way.
This part of the forum reads as though its just a bunch of really thick, stupid edl supporters. Its quite depressing, and its what put me off becoming a paid member, but I have enough common sense to know not every person is like that.
Anyway I wont be posting anymore on this thread. Feel free to ban me if you want for questioning.
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Sorry, its not an untrue accusation, I tend not to post alot, try not get dragged into all this bs, but there have been many worse things said on various threads, some not too long ago, in which the usual, aggressive people said and used words which were much, much worse!
You did not say a thing and let it happen. You have done that on numerous occasions. Ive only ever seen you act when it favours the usual people with their Daily Sport viewpoint.
You have also never banned far worse words used in a disrespectful way.
This part of the forum reads as though its just a bunch of really thick, stupid edl supporters. Its quite depressing, and its what put me off becoming a paid member, but I have enough common sense to know not every person is like that.
Anyway I wont be posting anymore on this thread. Feel free to ban me if you want for questioning.
You did not say a thing and let it happen. You have done that on numerous occasions. Ive only ever seen you act when it favours the usual people with their Daily Sport viewpoint.
You have also never banned far worse words used in a disrespectful way.
This part of the forum reads as though its just a bunch of really thick, stupid edl supporters. Its quite depressing, and its what put me off becoming a paid member, but I have enough common sense to know not every person is like that.
Anyway I wont be posting anymore on this thread. Feel free to ban me if you want for questioning.
If I have missed something or a post hasn't been RTM'd, that is very different to allowing things to be said, actively ignoring them or at worst, as you seem to be suggesting, supporting those comments.
Frankly, you are bang out of order to make comments that you have towards me, as they are just plain untrue. I don't need to ban you for making them though, as I know that I don't support racist comments, and that is all that is important to me. I can rest easy in that knowledge.
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You did not say a thing and let it happen. You have done that on numerous occasions. Ive only ever seen you act when it favours the usual people with their Daily Sport viewpoint.
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Yeah, I really do that considering I am such a supporter of those views.![Cuckoo](images/smilies/cuckoo.gif)
https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...&postcount=182
Last couple of pages of this thread obviously show me up as a racist (or someone who stands back and says nothing),
https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...mmigrants.html
Oh, and I never say anything,
https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=47
Sadly on that thread, you can't see the posts I deleted that were bang out of order in terms of their language towards Pakistanis. It makes it difficult to defend myself, so to speak, when you can't see what is no longer there as it was unacceptable.
No doubt, if I had endless hours to spare, I could find many more posts to go against your claims, and they are just examples of me putting my point across or acting in race/immigration related threads.
What also cannot be shown to you, are all the countless posts over the years that have been deleted (that I touched on earlier in my reply) nor can you as a member see when a user has been warned or infracted as it only shows up to moderators and admin, nor will you see any PMs that have gone between myself and other members when they have stepped out of line. But hey, you're right and I'm wrong.![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
My moderating style is generally to discuss matters in the hope warnings aren't needed, and a lot of the time that works. I might have missed some things along the way, well I'm only human and I can't be expected in my FREE time to be able to read through every single thread posted on here just in case something is posted that is not acceptable. As mods, we will see some things for ourselves, otherwise we rely on members to report unacceptable comments to us. I actually can't remember the last time a report came in about a racist comment (apart from the Kuffar one was reported in that way), so forgive me if I have been 'allowing' loads of comments to go ignored, but if I wasn't aware of them, I've hardly been intentionally allowing them.
You did not say a thing and let it happen. You have done that on numerous occasions. Ive only ever seen you act when it favours the usual people with their Daily Sport viewpoint.
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Yeah, I really do that considering I am such a supporter of those views.
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https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...&postcount=182
Last couple of pages of this thread obviously show me up as a racist (or someone who stands back and says nothing),
https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...mmigrants.html
Oh, and I never say anything,
https://www.scoobynet.com/showpost.p...9&postcount=47
Sadly on that thread, you can't see the posts I deleted that were bang out of order in terms of their language towards Pakistanis. It makes it difficult to defend myself, so to speak, when you can't see what is no longer there as it was unacceptable.
No doubt, if I had endless hours to spare, I could find many more posts to go against your claims, and they are just examples of me putting my point across or acting in race/immigration related threads.
What also cannot be shown to you, are all the countless posts over the years that have been deleted (that I touched on earlier in my reply) nor can you as a member see when a user has been warned or infracted as it only shows up to moderators and admin, nor will you see any PMs that have gone between myself and other members when they have stepped out of line. But hey, you're right and I'm wrong.
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
My moderating style is generally to discuss matters in the hope warnings aren't needed, and a lot of the time that works. I might have missed some things along the way, well I'm only human and I can't be expected in my FREE time to be able to read through every single thread posted on here just in case something is posted that is not acceptable. As mods, we will see some things for ourselves, otherwise we rely on members to report unacceptable comments to us. I actually can't remember the last time a report came in about a racist comment (apart from the Kuffar one was reported in that way), so forgive me if I have been 'allowing' loads of comments to go ignored, but if I wasn't aware of them, I've hardly been intentionally allowing them.
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All I can say is out of pure curiosity I did a search of the RTM section to see if Tyler has ever reported a post. He has never done so in his whole time of posting on Scoobynet (although a offensive post of his was reported back in May 2011). So in Lisa's defence, there is nothing more she could do than what she does already. If Tyler really expects Lisa or any moderator to put their personal life aside to read and make judgement on over 5000 posts and 1000 threads per week (source: http://boardreader.com/domain/scoobynet.com ), then I think your expectations of her and us are far to high and unreasonable. Maybe if we were paid there would be more incentive, but we're not.....
Incidentally, if Tyler had reported posts that had no action taken, then I wouldn't have been able to say this. That's not to say all reported posts are actioned upon, as that is wholly dependent who is involved and/or what is being said (for example the usual suspects in a iPhone related thread or when someone uses it to "get one up" on someone they are arguing with
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So give the woman a break!! She does alot more on this forum that many don't give credit for.
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Peace be with you all.
Whether you are well,
or whether you are sick.
Now if you are well,
You have nothing to worry about.
And if you are sick,
You only have two things to worry about:
Whether you get better,
or whether you die.
If you get better,
You have nothing to worry about.
And if you die,
You only have two things to worry about:
Whether you go to heaven,
or whether you go to hell Now if you go to heaven,
You have nothing to worry about.
And if you go to hell, You’ll be too busy shaking hands with Your friends,
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Peace be with you all.