Funkii Munkii

"I will win the voters over with my economic policies" - Ed Milliband

No, seriously Ed how do you intend winning them over? , anyone who has lived through the past two Labour govts will know that simply won't happen, in fact the opposite is the more likely outcome.



Good work destroying another thread F1, it's like having a young immature PSLewis on the forum..

AndyBaker

On a more serious note, if I were a sponsor on this site putting my hand in my pocket I am hopefully going to sell my parts or services to the members, but how many new people must come and have a look round the site, see the miserable **** that is F1 ruining every other thread and **** off again.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Seeing as I have been on this board since Feb 1999 and it's still here I guess once again you could do to think before you write as otherwise nonsense like this comes out.

David Lock

Surely 1999 to 2013 is time enough to learn to write English

dl

Leslie

Is anyone surprised at his failure to impress the masses?

Les

SJ_Skyline

Looks like the Labour Party are intent on committing suicide this weekend

http://www.express.co.uk/comment/exp...gration-policy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...hael-Gove.html

I object to funding political parties through taxation. I don't want my hard earned supporting the greens, the bnp, or any other political organisation regardless of alignment.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

EFA!

Leslie

Can't believe they would go into the next election with him in charge still!

They might even put the skids under Cameron as well!

Les

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

It really is Hobson's choice isn't it with Cameron and Milliband? Should help UKIP pick up lots of votes though which is a good thing.

That said Milliband is right over Syria... not that certain people on this board like to hear that

Leslie

The people in this country are getting fed up of so much of our cash being given to the Eu Commission with nothing significant coming back.

We also much prefer our own elected government to make our laws for us and not being told how to live our lives by the Eu for their own convenience.

We have also had enough of our politicians ingratiating themselves with the foreign leaders at our expense!

Les

Leslie

Any dictator should be made to understand that any such international crime being committed again would result in the worst possible result for himself.

Les

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Totally agree Les, but we have to be 100% sure that international crime has been commited by said dictator. We do not want another Blair/Iraq situation with all the trouble that brings!

David Lock

Well Milliband with his complete misunderstanding of the situation has scuppered any possibility of UK contributing to this. Milliband has given Assad the green light to continue gassing kids as far as UK is concerned.



You agree?? See above. Even if we are 200% sure there is nothing we can do. All because of your hero Milliband with his amendment.


dl

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

I shall ignore the Milliband hero comment as it is just plain stupid!

Cameron is as much to blame, something you keep conveniently ignoring!

Seems they are not the only ones playing party politics eh 'Dave'?

David Lock

I don't play party politics so I don't know what that sneer was about?

My view on Cameron is that he genuinely wants to stop Assad gassing kids but misjudged the Commons' reaction, not helped by constant comparisons with Iraq by your friend Ed which strikes me as a very different scenario.

Milliband has shamed GB (with his amendment).

dl

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

OK let's get this straight.

1) You keep going on about this amendment of Millibands's. It has nothing to do with what happened as the amendment was defeated in the Commons.

2) The subsequent vote in the Commons was basically asking should the UK be involved in military action 'in principle' and with a follow up vote as to whether to actually get involved to happen on Monday. That was also defeated by Labour and over 30 Tory MPs voting against it!

3) Cameron could call another vote with a different timning and wording, but he has chosen not to... IMO that is in no small part becuase if he were to lose that one too it would pretty much signal the end of the leadership of his party and hence him being PM! An opinion shared by many political commentators.

Hence the party politics comment as you (and several others) seem to want to heap all this on Milliband presumably because you are either thick or playing party politics. We know it's not the former (as you have told us) therefore....

AndyBaker

Sad but very very true

mrmadcap

F1, what Milliband did was nothing to do with Syria, I'm frightened to death that this idiot could win the next election

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Well if there's chance it will literally frighten you to death then I'm voting for him

On a serious note it's all been covered in the Syria thread and you're part way right. As I said in the other thread he was right but for the wrong (self serving) reasons.

SJ_Skyline

Has there been evidence displayed that proves the chemical attack was the work of the pro-Assad forces? All I've seen is conjecture, here-say and opinion with no concrete evidence as to who perpetrated this atrocity. Once it's proven who committed then the weight of the world should come down on them.

David Lock

I think this is about as close as you will get. I believe it but you may take a more cynical view.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23906913

You may also feel that whoever used them they need taking out but in doing so much of Assad's air force would be destroyed which would be a major boost for the rebels and against the short term end game.


David

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Believe what? Why not show the UN and for that matter the world this evidence? What earthly reason can they have for just saying they have it and not showing it to anyone? Is it any wonder people don't trust them?

David Lock

Possibly because that would compromise their people and contacts in Syria?

dl

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Or possibly because the evidence is not conclusive!

paulr

Two things emerged from the Syria debacle.

1. Cameron needs a new chief whip.
2. Milliband is not up to the job of being leader of the worlds seventh largest economy.

mrmadcap

Is there anybody that is actually going to vote for Labour at the next election apart from the ethnics and people on benefit?

AndyBaker

Hopefully not

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Ignoring the usual racist jibe in your post I think there aren't too many that will vote for him however I think Cameron will suffer even more as the UKIP will take a lot of the Tory vote due to his attempts to bribe the electorate over Europe possibly leaving Milliband in power.

I am not too worried as he is no better or worse than Cameron so it will just be same ****, different party again!

Leslie

I still think that the UN should actually stir itself for once and arrest all those responsible for the sarin nerve gas murder and send them to The Hague for trial.

Les

David Lock

Please be realistic Les. The UN can hardly knock on the door and get the handcuffs out can they? It's not Dixon of Dock Green out there

dl