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Old 11 September 2013, 05:46 PM
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Sorry to hijack thread but as we a talking quattro's.

Pictures taken at private UK collection but now have all gone back to Audi in Germany.








Old 11 September 2013, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
I used to own this one - no idea where it is now, but clearly still alive.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5067/5...b07822f7_z.jpg

When I had it, the exhaust was a bit bigger than that, it had no centre box on it - used to sound devine and was fond of spitting fire out on the overrun

It was, by far, one of the best cars I ever owned, only beaten in to 2nd place by the RS4.
That's nice, always reminds me of life on mars "FIRE UP THE QUATTRO".
Old 11 September 2013, 05:54 PM
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WOW!!!!


Superb!
Old 12 September 2013, 02:04 PM
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I did one of those courses once,

I thought it was done very logically and sensibly and I am sure it did a lot of good.

Les
Old 12 September 2013, 02:38 PM
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Turbohot, what colour was your Ur-Quattro? Red, white....?








I'm guessing yours was the 'phase 1' 2.1 10V 200PS version ("WR" engine code)?

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Old 12 September 2013, 02:43 PM
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...Would this be the reason why you love Philip Glenister so much?
Old 12 September 2013, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BLU
I'm pretty sure the police don't run any of the courses....
The one I went on was run by two retired police (sergeants?).

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Old 12 September 2013, 04:33 PM
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I have to go on one of these! 68 in a 60.. It was on the A303, where it goes 60/70/60/50/40/70/60/etc.. The irony is I was just coming back from Thruxton in a Litchfield Type 25, where I'd just been pulling 150 plus down the back straight in an Audi R8..
Hardly ragging it was I!
Old 12 September 2013, 05:36 PM
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I went on one, 36 in a 30 10 past 5 in the morning. 38 and above = fine and points
37 and lower= a choice, speed awareness course or fine and points
Old 12 September 2013, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 300gnspitzer
I went on one, 36 in a 30 10 past 5 in the morning. 38 and above = fine and points
37 and lower= a choice, speed awareness course or fine and points
Yeah that rings a bell.
I got real 'lucky': was doing 37!
Old 12 September 2013, 09:41 PM
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Let me get this right.
You pay the same amount of money.
Instead of the money going to the Government, it goes to Safety partnerships who use the money for more cameras.
You have to declare to your insurance company anyway.
You have to sit and listen to a load of (PC) drivel for a couple of hours in your own time.
Unless I had at least 6 points on my licence, I'd just pay the fine and take the points (or get the Missus to ).
Old 13 September 2013, 01:10 PM
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3 hours!
Old 13 September 2013, 01:50 PM
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I thought going on a course prevents you from getting any points and hence having to tell your insurance compnay
Old 13 September 2013, 04:34 PM
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I know a person who bombed past a speed camera van doing 50 @ 30 to his destination, and on the way back again merely after two hours. Twice to n' fro on the same stretch of road may look duffer-ish as it looks, but **** happens.
Old 13 September 2013, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Someone I know went on one.
I had him primed to ask why, if the cameras WERE for safety, they were preferred to take photos of the FRONT of vehicles, and cannot, therefore, catch motorbikes speeding?
Yet motorbikes make up nearly 40% of serious and fatal accidents, out of only 4% of road users.
You'd think they would target bikes?

The police sergeant running the course first questioned his figures, then stated that the camera VANS can take photos in both directions.
On being questioned about THAT, he first tried to say there are two people in each van.
Loudly shouted down for that lie, he threatened to eject anyone who continued the argument from the course, promising they would NOT be refunded the course money, but would then get the £60 fine and three points as WELL.

Who says it's not about revenue?
The sergeant should have produced figures on how many bike accidents/fatalities were caused by car drivers.
Old 13 September 2013, 04:51 PM
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Its actually more money, I think it was £74 instead of £60.
You don't have to tell your insurance company.
Old 13 September 2013, 05:07 PM
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Insurers are now asking about speed awareness courses and probably load the premium the same - ie not very much if you just have 3 points.
Old 13 September 2013, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
The sergeant should have produced figures on how many bike accidents/fatalities were caused by car drivers.
Well we know that at least a quarter of them involve no other vehicle if that helps.
I think the real question here is why don't the police or whatever use rear facing cameras?
Here in Essex, average speed cameras are all forward facing and do not pick up motor cycles. Mobile cameras are generally forward facing and fixed cameras here are rear facing.
I can think of no reason why the average speed cameras should be forward facing - there must be a reason, does anyone here know why?

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Old 13 September 2013, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
I thought going on a course prevents you from getting any points and hence having to tell your insurance compnay
Correct, or so we were told on the course. Mine was £92 and no points. What pi55es me off is that I've done over 150,000 miles in high performance impreza's but have only been done for speeding in a 1.5 litre Nissan qashqai diesel Andy
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Originally Posted by cster
Well we know that at least a quarter of them involve no other vehicle if that helps.
"The figures also show that 48% of crashes between motorcycles and cars were the result of the car driver failing to look properly.

Failing to look properly was the most frequent cause of crashes for all vehicles except motorcycles. Motorcyclists were most likely to crash through ‘loss of control’ and also most likely to be the victim of someone else failing to look."

http://www.bikelawyer.co.uk/bike-accident-statistics

As for why they have forward rather than rear facing camera's, I have no idea but it wouldn't be done specifically NOT to get bikers.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...acing-cameras/

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Old 13 September 2013, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyBaker
Correct, or so we were told on the course. Mine was £92 and no points. What pi55es me off is that I've done over 150,000 miles in high performance impreza's but have only been done for speeding in a 1.5 litre Nissan qashqai diesel Andy
I just received a NIP for 36 in a 30. In a Toyota Verso! Not the other stupidly fast cars I've been driving for the last 25 years.

I'm guessing I will get the speed awareness course option.
Old 13 September 2013, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by boxst
I just received a NIP for 36 in a 30. In a Toyota Verso! Not the other stupidly fast cars I've been driving for the last 25 years.

I'm guessing I will get the speed awareness course option.
If you do mate take it, you might hear one little gem that may make it worth it
Old 13 September 2013, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
The sergeant should have produced figures on how many bike accidents/fatalities were caused by car drivers.
About half of them were not the motorcyclist's fault.

DfT figures.

And NONE of that negates the FACT that at speed the motorcyclist is more likely to be injured in any collision than the car driver, and that motorcyclists DO speed, yet aren't targeted.

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Old 13 September 2013, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Turbohot, what colour was your Ur-Quattro? Red, white...


I'm guessing yours was the 'phase 1' 2.1 10V 200PS version ("WR" engine code)?
It was red, Joz. Like the one you posted up there. And it wasn't mine. It was someone else's madness, so I didn't take a note of the engine code etc.

I like good cars, but I'm not into all that rally, engine code, Phase 1 and stuff milarky. I leave this hobby for others to get on with. If I did everything, what would they do, hm?
Old 13 September 2013, 07:41 PM
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...Otherwise known as 'being a girl'.

Old 13 September 2013, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
...Otherwise known as 'being a girl'.

Depends.

There are women who are very much into all that. I'm not. I have better things to do. Like just driving those good cars, and driving others mad.

Subaru was just mine, so were a few other good ones- that's over a good few years. I let my loved ones drive them.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
"The figures also show that 48% of crashes between motorcycles and cars were the result of the car driver failing to look properly.

Failing to look properly was the most frequent cause of crashes for all vehicles except motorcycles. Motorcyclists were most likely to crash through ‘loss of control’ and also most likely to be the victim of someone else failing to look."

http://www.bikelawyer.co.uk/bike-accident-statistics

As for why they have forward rather than rear facing camera's, I have no idea but it wouldn't be done specifically NOT to get bikers.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...acing-cameras/
In my 16 years experience of riding bikes, I was lucky enough not to be involved in any accidents.
I did however have three pretty close shaves and in each case, it was indeed a case of the driver not seeing me.
In the context of this thread, speed was not a factor in any of them.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot

Depends.

There are women who are very much into all that...
Indeed.

I was only pulling your plon... er, nipple.

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Old 13 September 2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Indeed.

I was only pulling your plon... er, nipple.
I'm not into all that ^, either. I mean, in rude talks. I like it clean. Talk, that is. Nothing rude that rhymes with the word 'talk'.


And I know, I know that you were only pulling my hair again.
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"rude talks"

AKA "rudies"

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